AP Version of SightStone?

ChaddyFantome·Jul 14, 2015·1 votes·440 views

A problem i have always had with sightstone is that it it is skewed in favor of tank supports over AP supports despite it being a rush on supports,

The item is really un-optimal for AP supports as they don't benefit nearly as much from HP as the Tank supports do. It just feels really un-optimal sitting on an HP item for the wards alone when Tank supports actually appreciate the extra bulk it gives them. I was thinking maybe they could make either make an AP version of sightstone, adjust sightstone to include AP, or make sightstone build into somethign other than Ruby Sightstone that gives AP.

Could they maybe do somethign like this +100 HP +10 AP

Builds into either : (unchanged) OR **Sapphire SightStone ** +40 AP Builds out of +

Thoughts?

7 Comments

xGarzillaJul 14, 20151 votes

Just wondering how AP support doesn't benefit from 100 hp.

They usually don't scale life as well as others and could probably use it. To me it's the difference of the one auto attack or skill that could kill you and you being saved.

You have this item 3303 for extra AP from start. Tank supports usually grab item 3302 item 3069 If you want regen and cooldowns.

Usually i get boots right after sightstone and then build what i need to benefit me/team.

I know it's all a matter of preference, but in reality, all support benefit from 100 hp.

ChaddyFantomeJul 14, 20151 votes

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Just wondering how AP support doesn't benefit from 100 hp.

They usually don't scale life as well as others and could probably use it. To me it's the difference of the one auto attack or skill that could kill you and you being saved.

You have this for extra AP from start. Tank supports usually grab If you want regen and cooldowns.

Usually i get boots right after sightstone and then build what i need to benefit me/team.

I know it's all a matter of preference, but in reality, all support benefit from 100 hp.

That's a cop-out. Every champ technically benefits from HP.... The point I was making was that Tank Supports benefit from it MORE than AP Supports since they scale with Health and AP supports don't. As an AP support, you are squishy and shouldn't be getting hit to begin with and late game, 400 HP from item 2045 isn't gonna save you from jack with your 50-ish armor. The problem isn't that they need more AP, the problem is the lack of relevant stats they offer to the vast majority of the support pool, despite it being pretty much mandatory on all supports.

Look at this.

_You are a Lulu playing against a Braum. _ You both go back with your ADC's and have 800g and you both get a item 2049 . You as Lulu are sitting with no power return while Braum does because he scales with HP and you don't.

You see what I mean?

xGarzillaJul 14, 20151 votes

Yes, totally see what you mean. Yes, you are going to have that small window where you are vulnerable to them and that is where you need to change your play style for the time being. Play a little more passive instead of being hardcore aggressive.

Every champ comp has a weakness and strength. It's up to the player to decide how to play against it.

ChaddyFantomeJul 15, 20151 votes

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Yes, totally see what you mean. Yes, you are going to have that small window where you are vulnerable to them and that is where you need to change your play style for the time being. Play a little more passive instead of being hardcore aggressive.

Every champ comp has a weakness and strength. It's up to the player to decide how to play against it.

Did you even read my post? That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. We aren't talking play patterns, we are talking numbers, gold, costs, efficiency, wasted stats....

Seriously, you don't seem to be getting it at all, you aren't addressing my point one bit. Not even close.

"This isn't about me, it's about the game balance and building stats that don't benefit the champion",

xGarzillaJul 16, 20152 votes

Well considering YOU seem to be the only person that has a problem with it, i think it is a YOU issue and not a gameplay/balance issue.

ChaddyFantomeJul 16, 20151 votes

Are you for real?