And he is glorious.
I'm a little upset that they made Nevermove this boomerang skillshot thing and moved the Circle to his new spell, but overall, I'm surprised how much of his old kit remains in spirit.
They even went ahead and pushed the tactical aspect of him while making him the warlock he was meant to be.
VeganScout20 votesSwain is a coward, urgot will finish him eventually.
NocturnalSheild1 votesDoesnt urgot work for swain? Or is urgot from zuan?~~~~
Kai Guy21 votes"Once a powerful Noxian headsman, Urgot was betrayed by the empire for which he had killed so many. Bound in iron chains, he was forced to learn the true meaning of strength in the Dredge—a prison mine deep beneath Zaun."
NocturnalSheild1 votesOh never read the new lore.
Wert the Wacky3 votes[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oRBPVc3A,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-01-24T18:09:01.418+0000)
"Once a powerful Noxian headsman, Urgot was betrayed by the empire for which he had killed so many. Bound in iron chains, he was forced to learn the true meaning of strength in the Dredge—a prison mine deep beneath Zaun."
It might have been Darkwill that betrayed Urgot, and Urgot just isn't aware who was in charge. Swain is unhappy to see Singed in game, and it's currently unconfirmed if Swain led the Noxian invasion of Ionia or not.
Kai Guy4 votes" Sent to distant Zaun to eliminate a supposed conspiracy against the ruler of Noxus, Urgot realized too late the mission was a setup, removing him from the capital even as the usurper Swain seized control of it"
They might change the lore on him again, as it stands thou looking like swains fault directly or indirectly.
lolipopevelynn2 votesIt might have been Darkwill that betrayed Urgot, and Urgot just isn't aware who was in charge. Swain is unhappy to see Singed in game, and it's currently unconfirmed if Swain led the Noxian invasion of Ionia or not.
"your message is your true strenght, you have learned nothing" -Swain to Urgot
swain didnt betray him, he tried to teach him what is real strenght was. urgot overturned the zaun underworld with the spread of his words, not actions.
Yaskamasandwich8 votesI love his kit, it screams Papa Palpatine to me. I just hate his new look, looks like Vladimir. Maybe making him look more like Palpatine too would have been awesome.
TheMoralSupport4 votesDO IT
Coldblooooded 2 votesHis other skins look a bit better, but yea, I wasn't impressed with his new default skin.
Yaskamasandwich4 votes[{quoted}](name=Coldblooooded ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oRBPVc3A,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-01-24T19:48:12.352+0000)
His other skins look a bit better, but yea, I wasn't impressed with his new default skin.
Exactly for once the base skin is not the best skin in a rework. Good thing got Tyrant Swain a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away. That's going to be my default skin.
Takeuchi 177 voteshonestly I'm a bit split about the new changes. the new kit and gameplay look awesome, but I dont get the 'hey this is still good ol Swain' vibe either. excited to see how he plays out, but I'm gonna miss beatrice and his hobbly walk. I just wish a little more of his physical appearance couldve been kept like his half mask and hobble at least. looks too much like vlad
ChaddyFantome3 votes[{quoted}](name=Takeuchi 17,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oRBPVc3A,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-01-24T20:12:16.374+0000)
honestly I'm a bit split about the new changes. the new kit and gameplay look awesome, but I dont get the 'hey this is still good ol Swain' vibe either. excited to see how he plays out, but I'm gonna miss beatrice and his hobbly walk. I just wish a little more of his physical appearance couldve been kept like his half mask and hobble at least. looks too much like vlad
Yea i miss the Hobble + Cane walk cycle too. Wish they atleast kept it in, maybe make it part of a cycle of different walking/running animations like Zoe.
toastMonkey4 votesI totally said that he was a Sith Lord after looking over the NA reveal page. Very neat vibe for his rework.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku4 votesHis kit is great, his look isn't. Gladly skin exist [sg-miss-fortune]
Janna Me Fiddle4 votesHe's actually Sauron the Deceiver in his Annatar disguise.
Prince Kollin3 votesboo to change, boo
Phieldworker2 votesYou sir are the winner of the internet today.
Kyunsei1 votesNew Nevermore is really hard to land compared to before, but it's basically a Taliyah Seismic Shove effectiveness/value.
Thefrostyviking2 votesNot really tho, it's not much worse than Ahri´s Q.
And Taliyah get´s rylai which makes it really damn hard to actually dodge her stuff :8
Coldblooooded 1 votesStoked to play the new Swain :D Kinda regret getting the Bilgewater skin instead of Arctic Warfare though, that skin looks badass.
thecowley1 votes[{quoted}](name=Coldblooooded ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oRBPVc3A,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-01-24T19:47:24.247+0000)
Stoked to play the new Swain :D Kinda regret getting the Bilgewater skin instead of Arctic Warfare though, that skin looks badass.
What are talking about? I want swain just for that rainbow skin that is now bilgewater.
Coldblooooded 1 votesI thought the splash art looked too similar to Cutpurse Twisted Fate, Im sure it'll look better in-game.
ƒrostγ1 votesWhat are talking about? I want swain just for that rainbow skin that is now bilgewater.
Same. He looks younger and he's hot too.
ZapMyHeart1 votesSame. He looks younger and he's hot too.
It's like a hotter Jack Sparrow.
RainbowIcee1 votesDiablo boss
Z3Sleeper1 votesHe feels as close to a Juggernaut as a mage can be, Mordekaiser aside (basically just a magic damage dealing melee juggernaut).
And I like Juggernauts. So this'll prolly be my favorite mage.
JayPeePee1 votesThis update is bitter sweet for me, I feel like my old cane wobbly Swain is gone. The man who could single handedly walk into a 5v1 and outplay everyone with his sustain. He served the role for a great mage/bruiser and I appreciated it. These changes don't say Swain to me at all. It feels almost like a new champ. I don't understand why they would prioritize Swain update over A-A-Trox (Is A-A-Trox here?) like it is obvious that AAtrox has been a bag of ass since inception yet Riot prioritizes Swain over Aatox. I understand touching up champs that feel weird like the old Sion, Galio, or Urgot has done wonders but I feel with Swain it was too different. I have been having mixed feelings about some of the champ updates like Ryze, Rengar, Xin, or Warwick. I just stopped playing them cause I found them less exciting.
PaintedLoyalty1 votesI'm sad. They keep changing the champions that had grown on me. I got Yorick and was loving playing him and his kit, especially ult. Then they changed him. Same thing happened with Warwick and now Swain.
At least they look epic. And the kits are cool.
But I think riot has something against me liking champions.
CasterGilgamesh2 votesyou seem to keep playing the oldest champions lol so of course
