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Tips for Fighting MaoKai?

Stephenizgod··1 votes·1,066 views

I've never really seen Mao as all that much of an issue before, i mean he is really tanky and has a decent amount of CC but still. The other day though i was playing 3v3's and we were up against a Heimerdinger, Xin Zhao, and MaoKai. The Xin Zhao wasn't much of an issue although with Sated Devourer he was healing like a monster. Heimer was more obnoxious then he was an actual threat. The only threat to us and the reason we lost was because of Mao.

Here is the game http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1969809240/206176227?tab=stats

I was Volibear, my friends were Syndra and Renekton. Our Syndra was almost a non-factor in teamfights because Xin and Mao would jump her and kill her so fast we couldn't peel fast enough. We would kill Heimer and sometimes Xin, but Mao was different. Not only could he out damage both of us, he was also twice as tanky. I thought that my build would allow me to kill him mostly because i have an execute that deals damage based on my max hp as well. Still he had more health and resistances then me and out damaged me by like 23k damage.

Just to be clear, i am not complaining about Maokai, im asking what i can do different next time. What items should i have built, should i have focused him instead of Heimer and Xin, should i have tried to peel better for Syndra instead of trying to kill them, etc? Im just trying to get better at dealing with him because i apparently have no idea how to stop him.

EDIT: Well thanks for the comments, i think the general consensus is that i should have peeled for Syndra better.

18 Comments

AnArousedCactus2 votes

Did you never pay attention when you played pokemon? Fire types beats grass types. Bring this summoner 14

You can also beat grass types by playing poison and ice types, but not rock, ground or water types. He counters those.

Stephenizgod1 votes

grass is also weak to flying soooo Anivia ? Poison suuucks they have like the most weaknesses.

AnArousedCactus1 votes

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grass is also weak to flying soooo Anivia ? Poison suuucks they have like the most weaknesses.

You're catching on quickly. Yes, that will work. Anivia with ignite is your best option. Thats like an Articuno with Fireblast. They will never see it coming.

Rustling Bush1 votes

so pretty much your burst mage was dying super fast, and voli and rene couldn't do much?

well voli and rene both have pretty bad late games, if he got tanky that fast then you were screwed to begin with, they just probably had a better comp and stomped your team.

Stephenizgod1 votes

I would say they had a better team comp except that Xin and Heimer would almost always die in teamfights leaving it 2v1 against Mao. He normally died too but he would kill one of us and almost kill the other. When we tried ignoring him he dealt so much damage we would need to escape. We tried to peel him off of Syndra but Twisted Advance makes him untargetable and once he got on her she was dead.

I got fed early on but then again so did he, so maybe i should have tried to shut him down faster?

Boulderox1 votes

Sadly maokai is a supp tank, he can't carry on his own, so xin was the real trouble, and maokai was the wall of bark in the way. Maokai excels in team fights, so small skirmishes is what you want. Idk how the game went sec by sec, but turtling towers with your dps poking out can yield aome nice results, and if someone dives, play them out and peel your dps like a damn orange. But voli needs some ult tuning. It is lack luster imo

Stephenizgod1 votes

Well to be honest Heimer and Xin would normally fall very easily and early on in teamfights, i could take Xin out in 5-6 AA's then my W and Heimer would go down easily as well. Mao was able to 2v1 though even with my passive and Renekt in his ult, it was getting a little frustrating only because we didn't know how to deal enough damage to kill him before he could kill one of us. Most of the time he would kill one of us then die to the other, but not without almost killing the surviving person.

Xin did get to be a threat towards the end but it was because we couldn't push with Mao able to hold off 3 people and kill or almost kill 2 people by himself.

AkiNoKaeda1 votes

Take cleanse

Buy Quicksilver

Farm and ignore him

you are done

Stephenizgod1 votes

Hmm we did try ignoring him and went straight for turrets but he could deal a massive amount of damage really fast.

LordGeovanni1 votes

all of your champs spam spells which procs his passive super fast especially if you wernt aiming him but he was still blocking some damage. and like you said you shouldnt have been trying to kill thema s much as keep them off of syndra keep her behind you when xin and mao jump on her flip one of them off and allow her to push them back voli hasnt been a strong fighter

Stephenizgod1 votes

Yea i figured it was because Syndra couldn't do her damage, so basically there isnt much i could have done as Voli other then peel him off Syndra?

LordGeovanni1 votes

yea she had the only thing to stop their healing you def should have protected her

Stephenizgod1 votes

aight thank for the tips, basically there was nothing i could do my friend is pretty bad with Syndra lol

warpenguin5551 votes

i shrecked one as Renekton. Bullies destroy him

Stephenizgod1 votes

cheh apparently my Renekton was just a nub scrub then? I KNEW IT!! lol

50000000000000001 votes

Maokai has very low base MR (30 with no scaling) so he's weak to magic damage. So I guess this is another "you should have protected the carry" comment. He also had no MR runes (for some reason), so even with a spirit visage, he would have had 90 MR total.

Stephenizgod1 votes

the more people that say it just confirms it more, i should have protected Syndra better :)

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