If Riot Games was a Restaurant

[{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3ENrxGqj,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-12T08:34:30.308+0000)

https://youtu.be/oFERPp8iG78

prolly the best way to put it.

rather then admit that the wukong update is shit, they just in essence, say you dont actually have to play the champion or even the game in order to make it fun, and that the community (INCLUDING HIS OWN DAMN MAINS) are being entitled bitches.

essentially the living embodiment of

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/645/713/888.jpg

Oh my god... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

This will be another awkward situation for riot. Yeah listen to faker. He's the source of Riot's money. This is a ridiculous thing to even say and even disrespectful if you ask me. Like come on! Even pro players can be clueless let alone be terrible in game design compared to others. I don't even play wu kong but I feel sorry for those who do and that champ too.

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Except that I've been at said restaurant since it was founded and it's gotten worse and worse over time. How about you hop on your Riot account before posting? lol.

And if they are moving more in line with their goal as a restaurant, that's not your place to tell them they're wrong. You are not the only person in the world. Someone not doing exactly what you want does not mean that they are wrong. If the restaurant started as a general "everything" restaurant but now wants to only serve bibimbap, that's not them being wrong - that means you need to find a new restaurant for your non-bibimbap needs.

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Except that I've been at said restaurant since it was founded and it's gotten worse and worse over time. How about you hop on your Riot account before posting? lol.

If rujitra had a Riot account, we'd all be doomed.

That being said...I wouldn't necessarily say he's 100% wrong on the matter, more than that he's implying that everyone's expectations are looking for tacos in a Korean BBQ, if they're not enjoying the game anymore. So let's be real here: if the goal is to call everyone here a bunch of idiots, try being more direct so your dumb ass can get banned please.

If you, the PATRON GODDAMNED SAINT of nitpicking, truly believe that TENS OF THOUSANDS of players are just "being picky" with their food, then I expect you to have evidence that this 200+ years of experience is still capable of serving quality products like what it used to be capable of. The VAST majority of jungle mains, as well as the stats they literally make up, would clearly show that it's in disarray. The stats surrounding the new support items overwhelmingly show that if a game lasts longer than 15 minutes, they drain so much from the support role because they can't make any gold in what is typically considered the mid game once their quests are done. Almost anyone, ENCHANTERS INCLUDED, can one shot/two shot people right now at some point in the game, and the people whose actual job it is to one-shot you do it so fast that you often have no reaction time or ability to counterplay it. Even if you do everything correctly, position right, your tank peeling for you, and NOPE! There's Zed, casually deleting your adc before swapping back to his shadow completely untouched and ready to hit you again in about 40s when he gets his ult back.

There's so much evidence that Riot quite literally does not care anymore, unless it's eSports related. The whole "We have 200+ years of experience" thing about Wukong was just their confirmation that they don't. And over WUKONG?! REALLY?! Half this fucking playerbase probably didn't even know who the fuck that was til this incident, because he's become that irrelevant lately compared to all the meta picks. What a hill to die on...

If you eat at this diner for 10 years, and you literally watch the management go from making sure they serve quality product, to getting a bit tired, to looking like a fucking school cafeteria throwing stale PBJ sandwiches at people who don't have enough lunch money (aka "the pros") I'm pretty damn sure you have the right to file some complaints...

[{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3ENrxGqj,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-11T18:03:55.507+0000)

Let's review a few of their major mistakes.

• CertainlyT as a champion designer. The problem with his designs is that they often lacked counter interaction to the benefit of the user. His track record of problematic champions is rather extensive.
• The critical rework in Season 8 where IE became absolutely useless on its own as a critical item. It suffered from an even worse problem than Reaver did prior to said rework.
• Lethality items when they were first released. Riot promised us that they would only be used by assassins and even now they are still used by plenty of other champions even after the nerfs.
• Dynamic Queue. I really shouldn't need to say any more on that.

Plus, going on general good design philosophies (that Riot says they adhere to), I can explain exactly why Yasuo deserves to have both his critical passive and Windwall completely replaced. Instead, he's left as is with very low chance of ever being reworked or having those abilities changed.

I can criticize them for failing to uphold their own standards or repeating mistakes. So even if 99.99% of the community doesn't believe they've broken those practices, Riot may still very well have done so.

Discussion won't help, he's clearly a Rioter. You can tell because only they have that superior "It's ours, it's a masterpiece, and you should be grateful" mentality that they foster. It's amazing how obvious they are, almost like a cult. Literally no one else thinks this way.

Ironically, the same mentality that brings down restaurants that refuse to cater to their customers.

[{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3ENrxGqj,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-11T18:03:55.507+0000)

Let's review a few of their major mistakes.

• CertainlyT as a champion designer. The problem with his designs is that they often lacked counter interaction to the benefit of the user. His track record of problematic champions is rather extensive.
• The critical rework in Season 8 where IE became absolutely useless on its own as a critical item. It suffered from an even worse problem than Reaver did prior to said rework.
• Lethality items when they were first released. Riot promised us that they would only be used by assassins and even now they are still used by plenty of other champions even after the nerfs.
• Dynamic Queue. I really shouldn't need to say any more on that.

Plus, going on general good design philosophies (that Riot says they adhere to), I can explain exactly why Yasuo deserves to have both his critical passive and Windwall completely replaced. Instead, he's left as is with very low chance of ever being reworked or having those abilities changed.

I can criticize them for failing to uphold their own standards or repeating mistakes. So even if 99.99% of the community doesn't believe they've broken those practices, Riot may still very well have done so.

Thank god! At least the stupid restaraunt metaphor was dropped for this legitimate piece of criticism

[{quoted}](name=T2K Baka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3ENrxGqj,comment-id=0002000100000001,timestamp=2020-01-11T18:19:23.981+0000)

Ask everyone here what they say about the client and they will say its shit. Majority of us hate it

And that’s still less than 1% of 1% of active players.

[{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3ENrxGqj,comment-id=0002000500000000,timestamp=2020-01-11T18:52:17.472+0000)

now show me where i said perfection was expected.

its even there in your quote.

to reiterate being that it seems you didnt get it:

But the basic functions DO work for 99.99%+ of players. The amount of players who are experiencing these major, long-term issues is not so drastically high as you make it seem. Period.

So you're saying that because less than 1% of 1% of players are having issues, it's still not good enough - so where is the line? 1% of 1% of 1%? You're basically saying that unless it works for everyone, it's not okay. That is asking for perfection.

If you don't expect perfection, then you need to stop saying that "there's too many issues" no matter how many people it works for. That's not even to mention that the vast majority of client problems are resolved with a repatch/reinstall - which are the player's responsibility, not Riot's. Patching causes errors, that's a known fact of computing, and it's not Riot's fault or place to come to your house and push "repatch" or "reinstall".

So, yeah, you are expecting perfection. You can't say "I don't expect perfection" yet always say "it's not good enough" - those are mutually exclusive. Either you're asking for perfection, or you're not. Which is it?