Damage is ridiculously high right now!

Get. Rid. Of. Keystones. Give us the old mastery system back - y'know, the one that didn't give outrageous power to champions? It doesn't matter how "boring" they were, at least they didn't break the balance of the game...

i just wish we would have useful defensive keystones in the resolve tree.

strength of the ages is only realiable on junglers. in lane the mastery is incrededibly dependent on winning your lane. if the enemy zones you from cannon minions youre basically fucked and dont have a keystone. its the main reason for me why im not picking the mastery. you actually have to get the last hit on the cannon to get the extra health. and thats more unreliable in lane than for a jungler to just clear a camp for the stack.

and bond of stone is only really useful in duo lanes.

that leaves 1 single keystone for lane fighters and tanks. and thats a damage keystone. also, most of the masteries towards those keystones are downright shit.

they removed all the important defensive masteries from last seasons, like 10% crit damage reduction, 4% damage reduction against aoe abilities, extra resistances, 10% adaptive armor, 10% bonus resistances, and 4% general damage reduction without the self damage component attached, aswell as % health bonus from veteran scars.

defense wise the mastery tree this season is a gigantic pile of shit and the removal of almost all scaling defensive masteries left a giant hole. they were either replaced by damage or not at all.

its no surprise that damage this season is so high when there is no counterweight to all the amazing offensive masteries that increase damage by a % dealt, or fervor of battle that grants massive on hit damage.

basically what needs to happen is, we need an actual defensive tree instead of another utility/damage tree with some base health regen sprinkled in.

When a TANK can 100-0 you

This is situationally OK, because you haven't defined a length of time or who constitutes a tank. If you're a squishy an a Naut some AAs you for 10 seconds straight you're probably going to die, given your very loose definition this could still be a 100-0.

More realistically there are tanks who actually have a threat of killing squishies fairly fast. It's a part of some tanks kits to have respectable damage, Sejuani and Amumu would be the two best examples of this. This is why it's important to define what a tank is which I think most people including Riot have generally failed at. A Sejuani 100-0 your ADC over 3-4 seconds while uncontested is kind of OK, an Leona doing the same thing is an entirely different story and yet they are both Vanguards according to Riot.

This is mostly due to the keystones but also due to the new items introduced. They all g ive damage.

If an adc can 100-0 a tank in 2 seconds either he is trying to fight a fight he shouldn't be in, or he isn't building properly.

If an ADC can 100-0 you, while they're fed I think that is fine. But a losing Lucian with 2 items can delete you with one spell....and that is wrong.

Finally very sensible thread.

I can assure you that person was not a tank. If they were a true tank than they must have snowballed hard. If you are dying in 2 seconds as a tank then there is a high chance something is wrong with your itemization, but otherwise yes. Damage is too high from keystone masteries.

Basically tank ekko but he also has 3 lives with GA

@marshbouy, the 2 seconds thing is a figure of speech.

a couple of games ago I was playing (My main) and I was 4-0-0 and then i decided oh yeah malphite is 1-1-0 I can 1v1 him ezpz gimme kill... Nope I almost fucking died I had to run this is ridiculous how some champion can build FULL TANK yet do more damage than someone with

I discussed this in a similar thread. The main reason dmg is so damn high this season for all champions is because riot made the keystone masteries too damn strong. Certain champions have been popping off so hard this season because of their insane synergy with these keystone masteries.

another thing not to forget is how strong fire dragon is. 16-24% extra damage for the entire team is fucking broken. no ifs ands or buts about it.

dude only vets can remeber the good old time when dmg across the board was not that stupid lvl high. new players could never point out what OP pointing out in this post.

I don't know man my last game where I played Mundo I pre-emptively everytime destroyed Ashe or completely zoned her from the fight because she knew she'd get absolutely wrecked if she got too close. She most definitely didn't 100-0 me in 2 seconds

I was far from useless despite playing and I even ended up with a score of 8/0/3 making me borderline unstoppable in the mid game. Unfortunately my team didn't do so well since was pretty much being curb stomped by a so I did my best to make sure that whenever she got a kill I would make it 1 for 1. also got fed early on which made it hard so the game dragged out, luckily we had a who scales really well late game and I figured so long as I can control the we'll win the game.

My build:

It took their whole team to focus me down, I could still easily win a 1v1 with any of the enemy team although Riven alone would force me to ult to win that trade.

Itemize please.