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I don’t like those changes to IP/Blue essence

Fisher No Chains·11/8/2017, 7:47:13 PM·314 votes·18,324 views

So... I’ve played some games today and I’m kinda disappointed about how blue essence works.

First thing that I’ve noticed: you need 2500+ exp for level 31 which means a first win of the day and like... 15+ games, or more than a first win and a lot of games (and if you lose, you get a low amount of XP).

I’ve played 3/4 games today and I got nothing from it except some experience that isn’t even enough for half level 31, despite my first win of the day. Like, if you need 200 essence for a champion, you better tryhard for days so you can level up and hope to gain enough essence from a capsule.

Also, mastery 6 and 7 cost A LOT. I’ve read on reddit that the average BE you get for leveling up is 700/800 BE (which is ridiculously low) whereas you used to get AT LEAST 1000 IP (including first wins) for the same amount of games. Why are we forced to grind 5 levels for a stupid mastery emote?

If during S7 Riot did some questionable choices, S8 will be a year full of surprises for us (sadly).

Tl;dr: it takes too much time to collect BE compared to the old system, some stuff is even more expensive and you only get something once you level up = after 20 games (and not everyone has the time to play 10 games every day).

121 Comments

Biscuit Bite11/8/2017, 7:51:54 PM46 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

The rewards are horrible.

Give us 2500 BE and a random champion shard to call it #worth. Or give us 3 random champion shards to call it #worth.

Vreivai11/8/2017, 11:42:38 PM33 votes

You're not supposed to like it. You're supposed to hate how long it takes to get anything now and spend money on RP.

It's just another manifestation of corporate greed destroying the video game industry.

LordGeovanni11/8/2017, 10:05:13 PM27 votes

Im more concerned that Skin shards went down horribly for disenchaniting when the ip system got reworked .... why?

CelebrityOctopus11/8/2017, 10:11:22 PM22 votes

I'm not surprised by this. I'm pretty sure a similar thing happened the last few times Riot did anything with IP. I can't remember what season, but it was several years ago that Riot said they were adjusting IP numbers and that everyone would be getting more and it was just them being dishonest. I feel like that's happened more than once too. What can you expect though from them now? They send out a survey about refunds for runes and everyone tells them that the number there isn't high enough and what do they do? Go give people even less. I understand companies need to make money but Riot stopped doing things best for the average player a long time ago.

Xonra11/8/2017, 11:50:59 PM21 votes

Riot did an amazing job obfuscating how bad the change over to BE was on the whole (from top to bottom to this silly limited time store) by constantly hyping up the rune changes over everything else and not really bringing up the BE stuff past a few answers and the initial talking points.

They made it sound like you'd be getting the same amount (Which is false, especially as you play more you WILL be getting less as you level up past 40 given the fact you get it as you level not as you play, and the more you level the more you have to play to level, and WIN, given first win of the day which is actually important now). The fact that you get less BE than you did IP yet all the costs for everything IP related didn't go down to compensate, meaning eventually you will either stop having all champs or start having to buy RP (which is clearly their objective).

Buck Berserk11/8/2017, 11:05:35 PM19 votes

I just leveled on another account and got Illaoi. I want to buy Illaoi one day, just not as my next champion. So this means I get no BE after playing 15 games because I don't want to destroy that shard. You can tell me it's my choice whether to do so or not, but it's a shit position to be in and Riot shouldn't have forced these choices upon us.

DóraTheDestroyer11/8/2017, 11:30:10 PM16 votes

To be honest I have played less games today then I normally do. I really don't see the point as don't get anything after each game. I don't want random champion shards to disenchant. Going forward I won't be playing as much league.

Velzard of Koz11/8/2017, 10:43:39 PM13 votes

Nobody likes them but Rito be like "Muh money from champz bought by RP", so we can only eat this shit because people will still throw their money at them

jilllovesme11/8/2017, 11:40:07 PM6 votes

Up vote thisitem 3070

Eyezio11/8/2017, 11:28:40 PM5 votes

i think its a complete joke especially since i have had all champions an runes for 4 years now an they change it to this and give me 100k essence that i cant use cause i have everything already i got NOTHING new this is all for new players...thats why they are going crazy on facebook and youtube ads

Sukishoo11/9/2017, 12:28:17 AM4 votes

I’ve read on reddit that the average BE you get for leveling up is 700/800 BE

Then mine must be below that average cause I got Morde and Olaf shards, that was like 400 something.

Halley11/9/2017, 12:40:31 AM4 votes

Just leveled up. Got a capsule as promised, opened a Jhin shard. I would get 1260 BE if I disenchanted it. Unlocking a 6300IP/BE champ costs 3780BE. Mystery champion shards used to cost 1700 IP. Now they cost 3950. Even if you get a 6300 champ, it would cost you 7730 BE (3950 for the shard, 3780 to unlock it).

The whole point is to make you buy some RP then loot and hope for the best. It`s actually a simple but effective marketing strat. Sad it has finally found league.

MedicWasTaken11/9/2017, 12:44:10 PM4 votes

Riot should just give everything away for free including skins and emotes. that way they can fuck everyone in the ass and not just the VET players. i had 124400 ip now i have 16000 BE and cant buy shit. Thanks Riot. Call of Duty WWII ill see you soon!

Lacrimae Lamia11/10/2017, 11:30:59 AM3 votes

7 levels to get a new champ. Total shit. Thanks Riot for contributing to the dumpster fire that is games as a service.

EYECRED11/9/2017, 8:17:38 AM3 votes

They took everything bad from the HOTS economy and made it their own, grats rito.Atleast in HOTS you don't feel like you're getting the D.You get gold after each match and feel very rewarded when you level up not some shitty ass champ shards that you pretty much gotta "melt" to get a "ton" of BE.

Solutions: BE /match; Double the BE people get from capsules; Increase the number of shards/capsule; Throw in the capsules cosmetic shit(so people actually feel is worth playing?!)

Who the hell wants to play 1000 hours to get 2 Garen shards?!

Jesus Crits11/11/2017, 5:16:56 PM3 votes

Dear Riot, the least you could do is take me out to dinner because i like to be wined and dined before i get fucked

jomol11/20/2017, 8:39:26 PM2 votes

I just got 1620 BE from two level ups [zombie-brand-mindblown] the new blue essence is shit, plz remove it in next patch

radajin11/17/2017, 6:37:27 PM2 votes

Riot needs to shift there focus for forcing players to buy the champs they want for RP and focus more on getting them to want RP for fun or cool things, like skins, chromas, and other silly things.

You shouldn't feel pigeon holed into dropping 10$ on a champ which they will just rework later on down the road to a point you wish you never bought them, (urgot, twitch, ryze, sion, eve... i'm looking at you)

SuperxDor12/23/2017, 6:26:01 PM2 votes

They should bring back the old IP system, and NEVER FUCKING TOUCH IT AGAIN. Riot is the most stupidest company i have ever seen, its so hard to get the champs you want now, and every time you level up and get that capsule u get like 720 essence and a shitty champ that sells for 60 BE, like Riot are you fucking retarded? Ofc you are, go fuck yourself.

Nero McBrain11/20/2017, 6:19:33 AM2 votes

Leveling up champ masteries isn't even worth it anymore. It's way too expensive considering the Blue Essence you get on average. I hate how you don't even get rewarded after each game, making this game even grindier than Heroes of the Storm

getdowwwwn11/10/2017, 10:38:54 PM1 votes

This new BE system is just total rubbish. How are we ever meant to get champions etc now COME ON RITO