As we all know, bees are now verging on becoming endangered. We need bees to pollinate and make plants grow so we can all live and breathe the oxygen the plants make.
So Riot, can the upcoming Beemo skin and Beekeeper Singed have their sales go towards bee preservation groups?
ModThe Djinn92 votesThis is a fantastic idea. Have an upvote.
Mos Deadly982 votes[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8eLgPEAW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-30T22:27:20.580+0000)
This is a fantastic idea. Have an upvote.
its really not. The bee species is only going endangered in america. Where it was already an invasive species. If honebees die we will gain more bumblebees that are being pushed to extinction by the invasive species the honeybee.
Riotpasta mama24 votesHey! I really appreciate you sharing your idea. We get similar suggestions from time to time - you can read this response to another related thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6zi5bf/a_portion_of_the_money_earned_from_bee_keeper/dmwll45/ I appreciated the response here as well, if you want more useful context: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6z65wj/riot_should_put_forecast_janna_for_sale_and/dmtebo7/?context=1 TL;DR we are thinking about this kind of stuff, even if we aren't always talking about it publicly.
Late For Tea22 votesIt has been asked before when Beekeeper Singed was released, and the short answer is no. That said, Riot does give money to charity annually.
Still a shame, because we have to save these cuties: https://www.wallpaperflare.com/static/862/318/498/bumblebee-macro-shot-photography-bee-wallpaper.jpg
Jerry SeinfeId19 votesThis has been asked before, this was answered before. Riot doesn't do this but they do give some money to charity every year.
i just wish we could stop giving bee skins to champs i play so i'm no longer forced to buy them.
Doozku14 votesSales of this skin should go towards therapy sessions for toplaners who have had to lane against Teemo.
Hextech OwI12 votesBees>Bae
GentlemanGhidora12 votesThe proper bees, though. Native bumblebees and the like can stay but I wouldn’t bat an eye at the eradication of many stereotypical “classic” bees popularized in the past few decades or so.
Many variants of honeybees across North America are actually European invaders which have been killing off our natural ecosystem for so long people have forgotten they aren’t supposed to be here.
Handschuhe5 votesThe proper bees, though. Native bumblebees and the like can stay but I wouldn’t bat an eye at the eradication of many stereotypical “classic” bees popularized in the past few decades or so.
Many variants of honeybees across North America are actually European invaders which have been killing off our natural ecosystem for so long people have forgotten they aren’t supposed to be here.
Logged in just to up vote this. Non native bees don't need to survive in their non native habitat. Totally would hurt the fruit and nut industries, but would totally be better for the environment
HungryAngry2SPP9 votesBees aren't the only who ones pollinate, other common insect do it too (also wind, but wind is meh)
yukumari6 votesBees aren't the only who ones pollinate, other common insect do it too (also wind, but wind is meh)
Well yea, but its a BEE skin so...
FinalFlare2 votesBees aren't the only who ones pollinate, other common insect do it too (also wind, but wind is meh)
Bees are still a huge part of it. Losing a whole group of insects, especially pollinators, would have a major impact on many ecosystems.
TrevorAlu6 votesHonestly I don't know why riot wouldn't other than just plain greed. They are going to make more than their money back even if they donated 90% of it. It would be nice to see a large company do something like this other than "annual donations" a year. I know Riot donates to charities sometimes, especially with the Worlds skins this year, but I feel like with such a big platform, they should be able and should want to make a bigger impact on the earth. Does anyone know if they announce their annual donations to charity each year, I've never heard of it and wanna know what it is lol.
GigglesO2 votesHonestly I don't know why riot wouldn't other than just plain greed. They are going to make more than their money back even if they donated 90% of it. It would be nice to see a large company do something like this other than "annual donations" a year. I know Riot donates to charities sometimes, especially with the Worlds skins this year, but I feel like with such a big platform, they should be able and should want to make a bigger impact on the earth. Does anyone know if they announce their annual donations to charity each year, I've never heard of it and wanna know what it is lol.
Beecause Riot is owned by Tencent.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4167303-tencents-tailwind-fortnite-getting-stronger
Nothing is safe from a company just making ass loads of money.
2nd Chance5 votesIf at the very least 50% of the sales of Beemo go towards saving bees, I'd still gladly support it
Brilliant idea OP nonetheless
Risen294 votesMost of the honeybees that are dying are those in commericial operations that truck them around the country to pollinate commericial fruit orchids. Honeybees are dying off because they grow queen bees in a lab on narrow genetic stock, which produces weak hives. Bad raising methods result in weaker queens too. Beekeeping on that scale its seen as easier to just buy queen bees fresh than try to manage existing hives going through a more natural process of development. But there are always unforseen consequences when you try to shortcut the designs in nature.
Rather than amend thier ways, they are trying to find something else to blame for it. Pesticides, EMF, etc. All could be problems, but they arent looking at the one problem that is within thier power to change - bad stewardship. They would like to think the problem is external so they wont have to change thier business model.
TeCoolMage1 votesMost of the honeybees that are dying are those in commericial operations that truck them around the country to pollinate commericial fruit orchids. Honeybees are dying off because they grow queen bees in a lab on narrow genetic stock, which produces weak hives. Bad raising methods result in weaker queens too. Beekeeping on that scale its seen as easier to just buy queen bees fresh than try to manage existing hives going through a more natural process of development. But there are always unforseen consequences when you try to shortcut the designs in nature.
Rather than amend thier ways, they are trying to find something else to blame for it. Pesticides, EMF, etc. All could be problems, but they arent looking at the one problem that is within thier power to change - bad stewardship. They would like to think the problem is external so they wont have to change thier business model.
So what you're saying is that without commercial operations, bees would be in an even worse situation
Ariel the Cruel1 votesSo what you're saying is that without commercial operations, bees would be in an even worse situation
Commercial/livestock bees would be worse off.
As GentlemanGhidora already pointed out, those aren't necessarily the ones that need help though. (>_>)
Risen293 votesSo what you're saying is that without commercial operations, bees would be in an even worse situation
Your reading comprehension is poor. What I said is the opposite of what you claim.
TeCoolMage1 votesYour reading comprehension is poor. What I said is the opposite of what you claim.
Bees created for commercial production dying a lot but pollinating orchards (not orchids btw) that aren't being pollinated otherwise Vs. Not creating bees at all
hmmm
Maybe it was your argument that was poor here? Just a thought.
Risen294 votesBees created for commercial production dying a lot but pollinating orchards (not orchids btw) that aren't being pollinated otherwise Vs. Not creating bees at all
Your premise is wrong to begin with. You dont need traveling bee companies to pollinate fruit production if you design the orchids with permaculture principles. Bad orchid design creates a barren zones for miles where bees cant live, which is why you are forced to truck them in. Which has consequences on bee health. Which had consequences on fruit pollination. Its a downward spiral that ends in diaster and is actually more expensive long term.
TeCoolMage2 votesYour premise is wrong to begin with. You dont need traveling bee companies to pollinate fruit production if you design the orchids with permaculture principles. Bad orchid design creates a barren zones for miles where bees cant live, which is why you are forced to truck them in. Which has consequences on bee health. Which had consequences on fruit pollination. Its a downward spiral that ends in diaster and is actually more expensive long term.
So your entire comment about the dying bees being those in commercial operations and the fact it was because of bad practices involving gene pools and non-natural breeding, as well as the fact corporations are shifting blame to things like pesticides
Is completely pointless because bees dying isn't the problem at all
And that the real problem is because of bad flower designs, which if fixed would completely bypass the above problems anyway because no one would even be breeding those bees in the first place
Serika Zero3 votesYou can't "save the bees". Dad is a bee keeper and a portion of our income is from them.
Bees are having a bad time due to: radio waves from phone signal towards electric towers --these two give up waves that confuse the bees and in some cases even hurt them directly. Confused bees might just die because they don't get the way back home anymore
genetically engineered crops pesticide and insecticide used for crops and trees. --these cause internal damage and causes bees to die.
Unless you can combat the 4 main reasons above, you can't "Save the bees" regardless how much money you are getting and saving. Sorry to burst your bubble. But this is just a "make me feel good request" that won't help anything in the real sense of things..........................
edit: dad's been a bee keeper for like 40 years now always using the same methods to take care of them but a few years ago, half of his families died. Not only his, but everyone in our side of the country had severe loses in their bees family numbers.
Risen292 votes[{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8eLgPEAW,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-05-01T09:02:11.678+0000)
You can't "save the bees". Dad is a bee keeper and a portion of our income is from them.
Bees are having a bad time due to: radio waves from phone signal towards electric towers --these two give up waves that confuse the bees and in some cases even hurt them directly. Confused bees might just die because they don't get the way back home anymore
genetically engineered crops pesticide and insecticide used for crops and trees. --these cause internal damage and causes bees to die.
Unless you can combat the 4 main reasons above, you can't "Save the bees" regardless how much money you are getting and saving. Sorry to burst your bubble. But this is just a "make me feel good request" that won't help anything in the real sense of things..........................
edit: dad's been a bee keeper for like 40 years now always using the same methods to take care of them but a few years ago, half of his families died. Not only his, but everyone in our side of the country had severe loses in their bees family numbers.
This is also true. Pesticides and gmo crops wreck all kinds of havoc on the ecosystem, including bees. But I cant say its what is causing the problems with commericial honeybee stock when they use breeding methods that result in inferior queens, setting the hives up for failure.
If we observe declines in other wild pollinator populations then we can more likely pin the problem on that. Which I think we do see that. But I think there is more to the commercial honeybees problem than just pollution.
Serika Zero2 votesThis is also true. Pesticides and gmo crops wreck all kinds of havoc on the ecosystem, including bees. But I cant say its what is causing the problems with commericial honeybee stock when they use breeding methods that result in inferior queens, setting the hives up for failure.
If we observe declines in other wild pollinator populations then we can more likely pin the problem on that. Which I think we do see that. But I think there is more to the commercial honeybees problem than just pollution.
dad's version of breeding bees and point is to always make them stronger. right now he has families on 8 frames or 9 if i know right. About 10 years or so ago he used to have them on 10, but our bees got poisoned on purpose by the person where dad had the bees. So, he lost almost everything there and had to restart from zero to make strong famillies again.
I don't know what methods are used for "comercial bees" in usa, but i know that in dad's case and most of our side of the country. The point is to make stronger families which can last longer and manage more frames at once. ...................
but aside from this cellphone towers, tv towers and electrical towers are a big thing with the magnetic waves radiation they cause.
you are probably aware if you have relatives or you yourself have a house around the country side, that there are small devices (anti pests device i think its called) that create electromagnetic wave and can keep pests such as: spiders, mice, etc away from them by like 10-20m radius. now, imagine that at the scale of a large tower, ofc its going to fuck up everything that's around like 20km radius or so.
I researched the problem like i mentioned, a few years ago, half of dads (and everyone else in our side of the country, i don't know about other sides because we don't have contacts with other bee keepers from there and i'm not that social) bee families died. And it turned out that half of the bee population on the earth died (it didn't mattered if commercial or not).
also i've seen some studies about how the insides of a bee looks that harvested nectar from genetically modified plants vs normal plants and it looked quite awful.
But regardless if I'm right or wrong, its not a problem you can fix by throwing money at it..... which is why mere donations aren't going to do anything
Risen292 votes[{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8eLgPEAW,comment-id=001100000000,timestamp=2018-05-07T18:54:32.615+0000)
You are correct. On learning more about it I realized EMF from cell towers were a major cause. I already knew GMO crops and pesticides were a problem. I now believe they are the primary factor in the worldwide problems we're seeing. Although I suspect American commercial bee farms run into more problems because the hives are weaker to begin with due to the way they are created and managed.
Apparently microwave radiation coming from the cell towers is just as damaging to humans. Mental problems (anxiety/depression), infertility, cell damage, etc. Brain cancers have also doubled since cell phones became common.
That probably explains why whenever I get out of cell range while driving towards the mountains I immediately feel less stressed. Some people are said to be more sensitive to it than others.
dlayed2 votesHey now let's not forget our other major pollinator the mosquitoes.
cocacolalips2 votesif you want to donate, you can do it yourself, asking others to do your homework is silly.
XxxLumberJackxxX2 votes
Dσn1 votesTHe bees are fine
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170127142923.htm
typical Americans, just because they are doing "fine" in ur country does not mean they are around the world...
Risen291 votesTHe bees are fine https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170127142923.htm
That article establishes nothing as a fact other than the fact that bee numbers have decreased enough to he considered an endangered species.
He doesnt say bees "are fine", he says he just thinks they wont go extinct. Which is not the same as being fine.
The article then goes on to list various permaculture practices that must be followed before bee populations can recover.
FizzicallyNothin1 votesBump because this post is awesome.
Pinkaj1 votesAt least Riot puts some thought into charity, even if it's not specifically to these black and yellow fuzzles that make me laugh when people run from them.
SaltiestSandwich1 votesI love the idea. You may have my upvote, thumbs up, and...something else that's good.
Battalion1 votesThey haven't done a charity skin in a while. Even if it was just 50% revenue gained after the cost of design/implementation was met, that'd be going to a good cause and Riot would make profits, albeit a slower rate.
Yordle Xayah1 votesI'd like to bump this topic and thumbs up.
https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9f3b65dbbdab32ec052e/1x Let the swarm come <3
FilDaFunk1 votesPlants don't make that much oxygen, unfortunately. Most of it is made by algae (which we are killing by polluting the sea). The reasons we need bees is because they pollinate our crops.
SonicÐeHedgedawg1 votesThis is a great idea, but a better idea might be getting a sound clip of Nick Cage yelling “Agh not the bees!” whenever someone steps on Beemo's ult
Great Fox1 votesLaughs in TenCent
Dmie1 votesOMG rito :D do it for the bees ! they are important..
PaladinNO1 votesJanna and Yasuo sales now go to support clean energy in the form of windmills.
Leona skins to promote and further develop solar energy technology. ...Except Pool Party Leona - that one goes to combating global warming (suggesting it's hot enough).
And Taliyah and Malphite skins to research more into geothermal energy.
https://pre00.deviantart.net/5b0a/th/pre/i/2017/331/3/9/taliyah_and_malphite_by_akromia-dbv2kp4.png
Audhulma1 votesSpeaking of honey bees, my house is usually flooded with them by this time of year because there are flowers all over the place, but I haven't seen a single bee yet this year. =/
