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1K gold spent in item = 1K gold spent in item

iluvalar·7/10/2015, 2:05:50 AM·1 votes·1,180 views

I really DO LOVE making maths and optimizating my build. Hell, I made my own 2Ko PHP code that calculate every little detail of a build and help optimizing it.

But really the point of this post is exactly this : it's OPTIMIZATION. Yes there is all that question of synergy and scaling. But still, spending 1k gold will still make you somewhat 10% stronger no matter what.

I'm saying this as a tips, because right now, it's INSANE to see all my teamates going on tilt litteraly. Just because I buy a as first item instead of or whatever or is the meta right now. Seriously they start to play poorly, feeding, raging. nearly going afk. Don't be those guys. Yes ! I bought an item that gives 75 AD for 2200 instead of 80AD and 20 Crit% for 3800. I might not be optimal but that's not sufficient to rage and play poorly yourself. BY FAR !

In actuality, I'm using the pretty new mediation mastery to synergize with the muramana. I endup with a free passive. It's pretty decent if you really wonder. And more often then not, I end with the most damage in the game. But still once in a while I have to deal with people arguing about buying "damage" item and really throwing for this.

STOP ! lol. I had my gold, I spent it. It should be OK. Maybe not optimal but OK. Keep going.

10 Comments

OhBoyItsaMegaman7/10/2015, 3:58:21 PM3 votes

I remember you as the person who made several threads trying to explain that Sightstone is a bad item on support Soraka.

You were correct then—and you are correct now—in saying that you do not deserve to have people rage at you or abuse you due to the items you are buying. You are thoroughly incorrect about the theory that spending a certain amount of gold increases your power by approximately the same amount regardless of which items you're buying, and the justifications for your item choices are really pretty bad.

Lauki7/10/2015, 2:32:36 AM1 votes

now this is going to seem offensive and its not meant to but really it has to be so i guess it is.

have you ever thought about why you are silver 5

now honestly your build dosnt matter that much to me (though i will note that a better tank item for adc would probably be randuins or banshees over warmogs as it dosnt give any resistance) (and the major issue with tear in lane is that it sets you back 720 gold and idk if jinx is the sort of laner that can reliably deal with that) (and you need to relize that ie adds crit damage, meaning that your ~ 100 ad with runes masteries and dorans at level 8 coupled with the 80 from ie does an average of 234 damage a hit (before resistances or anything) and your manamune giving ~80 ad plus the pick axe and the long sword you have obtained at this point are dealing 215 damage a hit or something like that)

now they ie scales well into late game and so does manamune, but with her rockets jinx dosnt have the pool to sustain manamune usage and she dosnt exactly use it to poke

continuing the silver 5 strand, builds matter, and yours suck in addition to your useless 720 tear gold (couldve been a pickaxe) you also buy the support blue item and an avarice blade which sits in your inventory for the rest of the game, being useless ( you can make an argument for passive gold but that ship aint sailing). I cant even see how you make it through the first 10 minutes of the laneing phase.

edit: THIS IS NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO THE POST JUST THOUGHT I WOULD RIGHT DOWN MY INITIAL THOUGHTS

IllllllIIIIlllll7/10/2015, 2:33:04 AM1 votes

Well, to be fair, there's builds like item 3004 item 3078 item 3085 item 3072 item 3508 item 3035 and then there's builds like item 3009 item 3006 item 3020 item 3117 item 3158 item 3047

WalkingInACircle7/10/2015, 3:44:38 AM1 votes

Meh, items are kinda best not overthought. Because you never really know how much gold you'll go back to base with or when you'll have to adapt your build anyway.

...but I love building too.

iluvalar7/10/2015, 4:50:22 PM1 votes

I'm oversimplifying of course. Rushing rabandon on Vayne is a total waste of gold obviously. But let's say that 80% of the items are in a 8%-12% upgrade per 100 gold. There is a lot of items which are not considered "core" at all which could fair pretty well anyway.

I'm not saying there is no optimization possible or that there is no item better then other. I guess the real point of this post is to point out that the impact in a game from being toxic and starting to overthink your teamates builds outweight by far the little disadvantage they might have got from not choosing the pure meta items.

iluvalar7/10/2015, 10:47:44 PM1 votes

Don't you overthink it a bit ? Yes you are right crit% is usualy speaking a pretty sub optimal first back item. just by the fact that your AD (with which it multiply) is lower on that point. At the end, we are demonstrating that a player after the first back will be more or less 10% stronger after spending 1k gold. It is still only 10% often a single spear from nidalee or other can have a bigger impact then this. So really, there is no reason to go on tilt and start to throw your own game for this gap.

Again, the tear along with the mediation mastery give me access to 9 rockets per wave. It makes the rockets my new basic attack. That's 10% AD, a huge chance to deal extra dmg in AOE (25% at least) and 150 units of range. It's by far superior to the 30% bonus from the pickaxe. It's also superior to the 20% CS and 250% dmg from the IE. I think you underestimate the mana part of the manamune.

Other ADC can use it btw. Kog could ult every 5 seconds and Urgot could shield and Q at will.