If you go on tilt, you will fail to notice these opportunities

Commando Yi·Mar 23, 2015·5 votes·1,109 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSsE9e2D0Xo

16 Comments

Only Play DariusMar 23, 20152 votes

That was a dick move. Ever though to consider how you made J4 feel?

MrPerson10Mar 23, 20151 votes

That was the entire point. Trick2G has done a similar video where he camped a rumble top for a solid 5 kills as a voli jungle. After only two in quick succession, he's accomplished a few things.

He's snowballed his lane and picked up two assists.
While he's taxed his lane slightly, it's nothing major that he hasn't already given him in the kills - this serves as somewhat of a thanks for your time and help gesture from the laner.
Most importantly, he's reduced enemy morale. Being camped is, without a doubt, one of the most frustrating things to happen in early game - using that knowledge to your advantage is going to result in a seriously frustrated laner, a team that may be flaming them, and thereby overall reduced morale.

In short, mission accomplished. He did his job over and above his usual call of duty.

Only Play DariusMar 23, 20151 votes

So it's ok to put your enemy on tilt knowing that their team is likely flaming them for something out of their control, but if I dominate my lane and use allchat to demoralize my enemy as much as possible to hopefully get them to afk, i'm in the wrong?

MrPerson10Mar 23, 20151 votes

Yes. You are not harassing when using a method that's simply done by recognizing the thought process of a lane that was just ganked.

Doing the flaming and using all-chat are both optional choices and are harassment. Making a smart decision is making a smart decision.

As an additional note, you're officially on a path to them feeding - why would you want them to afk?

Only Play DariusMar 23, 20151 votes

Because in my elo people can't shutout games very quickly and i'm tired of going 7/0 in my lane and my opponent eventually coming back because my team would rather get kills than objectives and end up letting the game reach 40 minutes?

MrPerson10Mar 23, 20151 votes

If you're 7/0 in lane, why are YOU not pressuring objectives in the vicinity of your team? You have a minimum 2000 gold lead, you've taken your tower and pushed past the middle for a softpushing lane.

Why in the actual fuck aren't you making the largest impact on the game by being elsewhere at that point?

What does this create? Pressure. The almighty pressure. You pressure an objective near your team, they can collapse if you're in any danger at all

Only Play DariusMar 23, 20151 votes

Because the inhibitor turrets got reworked in such a way that they are extremely difficult to bring down by yourself.

Doesn't matter if I am Nasus and have 400 stacks at 20 minutes and I am 3 levels above my lane opponent with a 60cs advantage. As long as he is sitting under the inhibitor turret, I cannot readily kill him or the turret, I really need at least one person to help me. It's frustrating. I won lane extremely hard but as long as he is camping under the inhib turret, I can't do anything about him or the turret without the help of a teammate.

MrPerson10Mar 23, 20151 votes

Using your scenario, you're a fed Nasus. You don't need to be taking anything down, but creating - once again - pressure.

Nobody is going to be able to 1v1 you at that point, provided someone like Vayne isn't ridiculously fed and you have no armor.

Pressure the turret, wait for a minion wave to drop a single Q on it - boom 500 damage to turret.

Why is pressure your goal? While you're sitting on this turret, requiring at least two members of the enemy team to defend, you open up your team's other 4 resources to take other objectives or make up whatever deficit they may have had.

Only Play DariusMar 23, 20151 votes

That's the problem. Because the inhibitor turret slows you, reduces your armor, AND reduces your damage, you cannot really 1v1 anyone who is sitting under it, no matter how fed you are. So the laner which I have completely shutdown can sit under turret and hold me for 5 solid minutes until half his team shows up to destroy me.

MrPerson10Mar 23, 20151 votes

Why are you trying to face them? Use the minion wave, Q the turret. At no point should you be taking turret damage from this. Force objective elsewhere, anyone else shows up you leave and venture towards your team.

Only Play DariusMar 23, 20151 votes

For some reason the enemy botlane likes showing up and spamming their ults and killing me. Every. Single. Time.

MrPerson10Mar 23, 20151 votes

Then why don't you have vision of the jungle, particularly deep vision pertaining to the lane you're heavily extended in. Assume you're in top lane so your team can take dragon. You should have some deep wards by and around the buff camp, covering a majority of the routes that can be taken behind you. You should've brought these wards with you.

Faith BreakerMar 23, 20152 votes

The reason he has an excuse for every single point you made is the reason he's in low elo. He lacks the capacity to realize he has made a mistake. Yet continues to hungrily ask for advice.

MrPerson10Mar 23, 20151 votes

I remember the bronze days, however that advice was geared towards lower elo - where that shit actually works.

I can't even pull that shit off in platinum, you get locked down and shit on so fast you don't even have time to ask yourself what to do.