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always have aegies on your team except against pure ad

KirbyCake··2 votes·909 views

support should always have it after upgrading thier gold generating item and sightstone. there is really no fucking excuse not to have the most broken item in the game.

please don't ask how we are losing fights 5 kills up when the enemy team built an aegies and we don't. by not building one you are costing your team 10 kills worth of stats.

literally half my losses in ranked are due to the enemy team building aegies while we don't.

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FooDang3 votes

It really depends if you should rush it after gold item or not. Im not going to rush it if theres only 1 AP carry on the map...unless they are fed and blowing people up.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

To be fair, many of the currently popular tanks deal primarily damage and can't really itemize for penetration. It's quite valuable for reducing their (often AoE) damage in teamfights.

FooDang1 votes

Yea, I'm not saying it's not strong, depends on how much magic damage the enemy is putting out. And you gotta itemize vs who is a current threat. I'm not rushing aegis if Vayne or Rek sai is getting out of control and need to rush a FH or something. I usually get aegis as a 2nd big item...I agree with you and more supports should grab this item in thier build. Its really strong.

Roaranor2 votes

Three major issues I have with this post.

  1. Supports are not the only champions on which Aegis (and eventually a locket) are a good pickup on. There are plenty of junglers and top laners that build it as well, and you should always check with them to make sure that you don't end up with more than one locket on the team. It's generally better that the engage tank be the one to build it since they're more centrally located in team fights than the support (Save engage tank supports like Leona or Alistar). Having more than one Aegis is wasteful as the aoe passive does not stack.

  2. While the stats from aegis are nice, it's more ideal to build it with the intention of using Locket of Iron Solari's active to mitigate aoe nuke damage from mages (Viktor Ult, Anivia ult, Cass, etc etc)

  3. I find it hard to believe that a single item causes you to lose that many games. Poorly executed team fights seems like the cause at a quick glance.

tl;dr Yes it is a nice item. No it is not the reason you lost.

TMIT1 votes

That's true for other similar items too, and you can make a real case for other lanes picking some up in addition to the support, who has limited gold through much of the game. For a support that opens spellthief's for example it's going to be a while.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

This applies to tanky junglers or top laners as well. It's a really solid item to pickup if your support is building Mikaels or Zhonyas or something.

Dunno why you're getting downvotes OP. Aegis is one of the most efficient items in the game, it gives ranged squishies about 20% damage reduction from the Aura alone until they pick up some magic resist of their own. Not to mention the shield if you finish talisman, or you can be super annoying and use banner for split pushing. (Hilarious against AP tops like Rumble and Vlad).

Brody Biggu2 votes

20 Magic Resist is definitely not 20% damage reduction.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

My mistake I meant it gives them 20% more effective health from magic damage.

It's extremely good.

Takananoshi1 votes

Idk...I got wins with Leona and I rarely build Aegis unless I see that the enemy has 3 or more AP champions OR an "about to be fed" AP enemy

insaiyanbacca1 votes

what if the only people that matter on their team are ad? for example its lets say a talon mid and a kalista adc with braum supp anaut jungle and a malphite top(granted this is actually a very terrible teamcomp and i dont see it getting picked outside of bronze/silver where i am currently) but this gives them a minimal amount of magic damage tbh and a large amount of physical damage from the mid and adc but thats just my thought process here because you dont need to be against a full ad comp to not need aegis i think

KirbyCake1 votes

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what if the only people that matter on their team are ad? for example its lets say a talon mid and a kalista adc with braum supp anaut jungle and a malphite top(granted this is actually a very terrible teamcomp and i dont see it getting picked outside of bronze/silver where i am currently) but this gives them a minimal amount of magic damage tbh and a large amount of physical damage from the mid and adc but thats just my thought process here because you dont need to be against a full ad comp to not need aegis i think

doesn't matter, buy aegies because then your teammates do not need to waste an item slot on mr i might start buying fucking aegies on swain cause of retards who don't buy it. it is literally the highest win rate item in the game and has the highest gold efficiency. it is literally worth 7 kills worth of gold to the team who buys it first.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

waste an item slot for mr? the two big mr items people will probably buy no matter what because one gives you cdr and increased healing and the other gives you a spellshield, and i didnt know just having 20 more mr was better then 55 on spirit visage

Faith Breaker1 votes

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it is literally worth 7 kills worth of gold to the team who buys it first.

by not building one you are costing your team 10 kills worth of stats.

IcyPepper1 votes

support should always have it after upgrading thier gold generating item and sightstone. there is really no fucking excuse not to have the most broken item in the game.

Why can't tanks? They benefit from health and MR just as much, not to mention some supports don't scale as well with health (example: Soraka). Hell, I even buy it on bruisers from time to time.

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