How to get out of silver trash?

Wolf Queen·Sep 6, 2015·2 votes·1,293 views

How does anyone get out of this trash elo? I make calls that i know will work and no one follows. I cant team push a lane if the team doesnt follow, i cant bait baron if people dont follow, i cant initiate fights if no one follows up and im just 1v5 and then they all blame me even though they stand there. I can feed one of my lanes 3-4 kills early and they still lose lane. Even a draven. I take the kills myself and then all they can say is "gg report this troll jungler taking my kills". I can single handily win the game and they do nothing but scream in all chat "report this troll noct hes so bad" even though i just single handily took both inhibs both nexus towers and the nexus itself fully by myself. At the end of the game they report me? Honestly i dont know what to do. Winning the game for them isnt even good enough. Is there some secret to getting out of this elo? Can someone please help tell me what is the secret to getting out of silver? They wont follow calls, they lose lane no matter how much i feed them, they rage at me for taking objectives, i just dont understand what to do anymore ive run out of ideas. If you would like to take the time to watch videos of me play to see what i can do better go here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxEHkpsMRklXbC4GxcMgrmw/videos

8 Comments

RIP ResonanceSep 6, 20153 votes

You're not stuck here. You belong here. You need to improve your gameplay to climb the ladder. That's how the elo system works.

Wolf QueenSep 6, 20152 votes

so if my vayne walks up to them in melee range and doesnt even auto till shes in melee range..is me needing to improve myself? Them doing baron when 3 of us are dead and all 5 are up and thus giving them a free baron and dying for free is me needing to improve my play? Me engaging a fight i know we can win and them standing there playing thumb wars with each other or some shit is me needing to improve my gameplay? Ive seen pro players play custom games with low elo subs and even they talk about how they cant carry them cause of things they do. Is that them needing to improve there own play too? My last game i went 27/5 then the adc walks out way in front of us and walks up to a skarner and gets ulted so we just lose the whole game. Is that my fault too? Is 27/5 not good enough? Thats like saying its a quarterbacks fault for the receiver not catching the ball even though the ball hit him right in the hands

TerntSep 6, 20151 votes

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so if my vayne walks up to them in melee range and doesnt even auto till shes in melee range..is me needing to improve myself? Them doing baron when 3 of us are dead and all 5 are up and thus giving them a free baron and dying for free is me needing to improve my play? Me engaging a fight i know we can win and them standing there playing thumb wars with each other or some shit is me needing to improve my gameplay? Ive seen pro players play custom games with low elo subs and even they talk about how they cant carry them cause of things they do. Is that them needing to improve there own play too? Thats like saying its a quarterbacks fault for the receiver not catching the ball even though the ball hit him right in the hands

That's a valid point. I've seen NightBlu3 play with Silver's in 5v5's and they lose games because of the poor decisions of the Silver's. Honestly, 1 person getting caught late game, especially if it's a carry, will tank the game.

RIP ResonanceSep 6, 20151 votes

Naturally the game is 50/50. Even pros lose games through no fault of their own. It's the nature of a team based game. There are things you cannot control. I main support, I know what it's like to get ADC's that don't understand what auto attacking is. If someone in champ select says they're not a good carry, ect. since you "don't belong in silver, and your team is holding you back" be the carry for your team. As for me, I'm not a good carry and I realize that my strengths come to teamfights and roams, so I play a role that allows me to do it. Just find out what champions you're good at and tend to carry games with.

TerntSep 6, 20151 votes

I'm stuck here too, and usually it's one of my teammates bad judgement call or being out of position that loses me games. There's few games where I really feed, even though there are times where games get so out of hand that trying to do anything does nothing but tank your existing KDA. I think a lot of the problem is that most people think they're great because they're no longer in Bronze. I've read and seen videos of people talking about this and how each elo bracket's mentality is, and it's actually pretty spot on. Most people said that you have to carry, but most times that's not enough to win a game. Although I hate this elo, it is where I am at and probably where I will end this season, sadly. What I am trying to do now is focus on more team carry champs, like Wukong, Rek'Sai and Kassadin. Where I can go in and deal a lot of damage so that, no matter how bad my team is, they can at least kill people from half health and cc'd. The games I win are because of good team fight champions, and the games I lose are games that snowball so fast you really can't do much, even with a good team fight. This is just the reality of the game.

Wolf QueenSep 6, 20151 votes

id be lucky if my team can kill someone with a quarter health much less half. Half the times i play a tank i do more damage then the dang carries. Ive stopped playing team fight champs and focused on solo ones. I only play kha'zix and nocturne now. Ive been a team oriented player since season 3 and recently i stopped. Thinking of my team and trying to be a big team player has never gotten me anywhere. Ive literaly 1v3d on nocturne when im fed and i 1v2 when im not fed aslong im not behind(depending on who there 2 is)and yet the times i 1v3d my team died 4v2....

Kei143Sep 6, 20151 votes

You... don't like to buy wards ?

You also seem to have some horrible back timings.

You also don't like to counter jungle when the opportunity arises, but instead you wait in that brush for minions to pass instead of taking gromp / krugs.

Referring to your nocturne top game where you only warded twice, swept twice and would go back just to get a long sword / vamp sceptre when you could have pressured other objectives.

Yes you carried that game, but that only kidda works when you are paired with enemies weaker than you.

That game, your team mates would ward alot and they wouldn't, so you were able to catch them out of position. If it was the reverse, what would you do? There will be games that are like that.

Also pings before you gank would be nice. It provides good communication, alerts them so they can follow up on your ganks (referring to the Sandra mid tower dive), or you could have typed in something like "push the lane" so xerath can clear the minions and land a stun easier, instead of having to reposition awkwardly. So maybe a bit too hasty on that gank.

Nurse VioletSep 7, 20151 votes

It sounds like you succeed when you can be the leader of the team and call objectives. My advice is this: a little bit of good will goes a long way. If you earn your team's trust and help them out early on in the game, they will be much more receptive to you later on when it is important for you to be making calls. Things like warding for other lanes, using teleport to gank bottom, and being generally cheerful by congratulating your teammates when they do well and thanking the jungler for ganks are great ways to gain the favor of your team.

If you want to do some hands-on work with me I enjoy coaching and just generally helping out other players. Feel free to add me in-game.