Before you rage at the feeder

Wolf Queen·Aug 8, 2016·48 votes·2,197 views

Think first, he/she knows they have done bad. They dont need you to tell them. Raging at them does not help them do better, and it certainly doesnt help you either. While your sitting there typing away on your keyboard your ass is missing cs/plays. Do not rage at the feeder, your not better then they are, your at the exact same rank/mmr that they are. If your a smurf dont rage either cause its a smurf account you shouldn't care. We have all fed and done bad before and will again in the future. Do you like it when your the 1 hated and raged at by your team? No i imagine not, i imagine it makes you upset/annoyed/whatever too. So dont do it to them. Give advice, there is no reason to rage it helps NO ONE.

30 Comments

FriusAug 8, 201612 votes

when u see someone feeding ,remember you also do and did and will do sometimes soon.

BhagswagAug 8, 20168 votes

I just tell them I'm a girl and they start flirting with me.

ZellicAug 9, 20165 votes

The majority of League is in denial. Post like these just help continue this horrible cycle and doesn't help to improve anything for anyone. It doesnt help teach the guy feeding that he is making poor choices in his actions based on matchup, skill of opponents or how the game is going or whats happening on the map.
People need to learn how to take advice. Its not even criticism. Its simply advice that is always taken or perceived as BM or trash talk/rage.

Just the other night, top laner was 1/4/0 and all that was said was "Hey top, just play safer and farm up and we still got this" and he clearly read it as "FUCK YOU NOOB FEEDER! YOUR TRASH!" Then he proceeds to blame everyone else for him being 1/4/0 with half the cs of his opponent and die another 3 times in about 5 minutes. People need to learn to take responsibility for their own actions and choices. He choose to play that way and he paid for it. And for whatever reason he still thinks he did nothing wrong. Honestly, its unacceptable to just allow people to continue to not learn from their past mistakes. Its OK to make mistakes but for god sake learn from them.

Posts like the OP just coddles these people. Its like saying a 5'10" 400+lbs man who has a body fat percentage of 50%+ who eats mcdonalds, cookies, chips, pizza everyday but is trying to loose weight is making the right choices. Its blatantly obvious he isnt but your falsely reaffirming his bad choices just because you dont want to potentially hurt his feelings.

This does not help anyone. some of these people are not bad in the mechanical sense, its just their decision making and ability to unbiased and openly review and critique their own play is nonexistent. Especially on the go as they are mid game. But if we never push or try to help these people change then its just a sad lost cause and this community as a whole will continue to suffer. Most people who feed are the worst for raging. Its actually very rare that the guy feeding is saying "so sorry guys im playing bad" "I'll play more safe" or "yea i should play more safe" or "oh yea ill buy that item" etc...

So in short, Mr OP. Does the feeder know he fed? Yep but 9 times out of 10 he still thinks its everyone elses fault and he did nothing wrong. So yes im gonna continue to give advice and if he rages i will continue to point out his mistakes in hopes that one day he might actually learn something and improve him or herself.

I'm also posting this so maybe you will see that your approach here is not in fact the best way to help the community handle this issue. Your trying to address a symptom and not actually fix the root cause. By saying this, im NOT calling you stupid or an idiot. Im simply giving you advice that a different approach on this matter would yield much better results.

Wolf QueenAug 9, 20161 votes

so in your logic, 2 wrongs make a right? We should instantly rage at the one who has a bad game instead? That just solves everything and makes everything ok? Yes i know sometimes people who have bad games will blame others, this post isnt about that, and your just bringing up a random topic that has nothing to do with this post. Not once did i say its ok to blame others, i didnt say you shouldnt accept your own mistakes. I said you shouldnt rage at the ones who have a bad game because far too often do i see that. And actually yes quite often do i see someone who says "sorry i had a bad game" it happens quite often at least in my own experiences. Raging at them does nothing at all to help them fix their mistakes. "hey you stupid worthless feeder stop dying you moron" thats how you help people? Then you have a poor way of "helping". Not once did i say its ok for them to rage instead. Please read more carefully, i am defending the ones who are raged at for having a bad game, not once did the ones who feed then rage at others come up. I know they happen but thats a whole different topic entirely. 2 wrongs dont make a right. I have made posts before about people dying and then raging at their team. Ive made posts about adcs raging at their support, ive made posts about many different situations. Just cause my way is to do them separately doesnt suddenly mean i think its ok for others to rage at people. No i want all the raging to stop.

Yes you should care about other peoples feelings getting hurt, cause thats what makes us human is to care for each other. Everyone has feelings and everyone gets them hurt in some way. You get your feelings hurt when someone has a bad game, hence the reason you dont like it. So your response is we should hurt their feelings? If we dont care for each other then we might as well be no more then beasts. I see nothing at all wrong with wanting the raging at each other to end. I see nothing wrong with posting it, because just maybe it might get through to some people who do rage at each other. People will perform far better if they have a team thats nice to them. If we all rage at the one who feeds then when that person has a feeder they will rage at them cause he thinks its ok cause its what hes always known. The cycle of raging at the feeder doesnt help anything it just causes more rage, and more lost games. No one have i ever seen since i first started this game, has ever done better when being raged at. But i can count you several times that i and my team was nice to the one having a bad game and helped him out, how many times it caused us to turn the game around and win.

ZellicAug 10, 20161 votes

If you read what i wrote, you would have noticed i never said to "rage" at said person. Also you telling me that most feeders are innocent and apologetic is just wrong. Most feeders are the ones doing the raging in games. They cause the atmosphere of annoyance or irritability and proceed to light the spark and fan the flames. They overreact to simple advice on how to turn their misfortunes around . To them, they are never in the wrong.

Rage from the non feeders generally doesn't just come out of no where. Its normally a few words of advice to stop the bleeding. Which generally is ignored and likely responded to with a "shut up", "fuck you" "don't tell me how to play" response. They continue to feed and the game is lost. League is a competitive team game like it or not. People are going to get frustrated and upset at people not pulling their own weight. No one rages at someone because they didn't carry a game or went even. You can even die a few times, go 0/3 and its still good. But the 0/7, 3/12 scores are just unacceptable. Especially at 15-20 min in. If you feed your making the game less enjoyable for everyone else.

Look, there is nothing wrong with someone simply stating the fact that someone is bad at something. If someone tells you your not good enough at something and you cant handle it....your not gonna make it very far in life.

Also pay attention to what I'm saying....i have yet to condone brutal tongue lashings for dying once or twice in lane or unnecessary language to personally attack the player. Criticizing his play is fine. Personal attacks are a whole different thing.

Simply saying nothing acting like everything is ok and coddling players will never help them improve. in the current game or into the future. If you don't know your doing something wrong you will never fix it. And for most players in League...they never think they are wrong.

Your trying to fix the reaction of people after someone feeds when in reality you should be trying to prevent the feeding from ever happening.

Your passive, lets all be friends approach does not work in a competitive environment. Someone has to win and someone has to loose. No one likes to loose. There is no participation medals here.

Troll for TrumpAug 9, 20164 votes

Give advice

"pls ward and play passively"

"OMG WTF WHAT THE F*** YOU TOXIC MONSTER MUTED REPORTED I AFK"

SpôôkedAug 9, 20161 votes

I cant even count how many times Ive tried giving ppl advice, and just getting told to stfu, and that they know how to play better...then the person flaming me facechecks a bush and dies....

Srsly, why don`t ppl drop the pride bullshit and just take some advice?

dominusxAug 8, 20163 votes

Point is ppl dont know they do bad thus why they get flamed if you know what you did wrong you wont die a 3rd time 1v1 in your lane and fuck ur team up because you lose control of a part of the map. Nor they gonna blame the jungle for not camping the lane when they die 3-4 times 1v1 with no jungle pressence and then when the jungle finally comes you get 1v2'd because the enemy has a huge lead. I dont say flame them that wont solve anything im just stating that people are retarded and dont learn from their mistakes. If you see someone that averages more than 6 deaths per game on a role outside support you know he gonna be one of them dudes who lose lane and blame someone else

Wolf QueenAug 8, 20161 votes

I agree shouldnt blame someone else either. I dont like it when people do that either. Sometimes it is someone else fault, but majority of the times its their own fault. Ive had people who do bad in my games(and some games i do too of course)and they dont blame others instead they are the ones raged at anyways. Its like people dont seem to remember the games where they them self fed.

Tobias BracknerAug 8, 201618 votes

Point is ppl dont know they do bad

Yes they do.

Don't ever try to justify flaming, it's a strategy only for people who would rather be pissed off than actually play the game and try to win.

jwn8175Aug 8, 20161 votes

Why would support be the one that dies most?

Bears Dont CareAug 8, 20163 votes

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Point is ppl dont know they do bad

Engrish?

KoggyStyleAug 9, 20162 votes

if you cant comprehend that, then you need to learn of something called...slang.

Bears Dont CareAug 9, 20162 votes

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if you cant comprehend that, then you need to learn of something called...slang.

Slang refers to various terminology. "Swag" "Bruh"

I couldn't comprehend it because it was an entirely different language.

It Hertz When IPAug 9, 20161 votes

He's posting from EUNE, English might not be his first language.

He's completely wrong, of course, but don't knock his grammar.

dominusxAug 9, 20161 votes

If he can't understand this Grammar which is used in league more than anything else i cannot do anything for him of course i can spell to a better degree but i dont find it needed when the game slangs are so easy to understand

Bears Dont CareAug 11, 20161 votes

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He's posting from EUNE, English might not be his first language.

He's completely wrong, of course, but don't knock his grammar.

Anyone who immediately states they are using "slang" is acknowledging they have a competent grasp on English. Don't defend people who don't need it.

It Hertz When IPAug 11, 20161 votes

If you'd care to actually look... the guy who claimed it was slang is an entirely different person from Dominusx, the EUNE poster.

Bears Dont CareAug 12, 20161 votes

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If you'd care to actually look...

I dont. It's a completely pointless matter anyway.

Immortal spaxAug 8, 20162 votes

dont blaame the feeder the feeder starts to blame the jungler.

Ok...

Wolf QueenAug 8, 20161 votes

???

It Hertz When IPAug 9, 20161 votes

*you're

But yeah. +1

Try RC ColaAug 9, 20161 votes

9/10 I agree, however, if they continue to try to 1v1 their laner and refuse to play passive they may need a bit of a reminder that they have effectively wasted 20+ of 4 peoples lives.

ABSINTHEgedAug 9, 20161 votes

You're exactly the person posts like these are aimed at.

Axe2HandleAug 9, 20161 votes

I dont mind them raging at me and telling me how much I suck all game.

It makes me laugh.

Others will cry about it and call the community toxic. I just don't get it...

HibekiAug 9, 20161 votes

I rage at feeders every game. I dont regret it.

The games I don't rage then they still feed, they don't play better, they don't even attempt.

I know what i'm saying doesn't make them play better and it doesn't, but it makes me feel better, and at this point, I'm entitled to do it.

Your wreckless mistakes don't just hinder you, they hinder EVERYONE ELSE. So singlehandedly losing a game absolutely gives someone the right to be pissed off at you. They did not choose to work with you, You were put in a team with them and you held them down. Thats not fair to them.

And when I feed, I believe the same is in order. I don't get mad when people do the same to me. When people are 11/0 and I'm 0/7 they can talk ALL the shit they want, they are completely justified.

However most of the time my 'feeding' is an illusion, I'm 2/3 for almost the entire game while the other laners are 0/8 and inevitably, laning phase is over, so I have to put up with the now fed laners and end up going 2/9, which looks like I was feeding, when in reality it's because I'm dying to someone one of my TEAMMATES fed.

YJRBqwXJcSAug 10, 20161 votes

i've been flamed by feeders more than i rage at them.

DemainaNyxAug 10, 20161 votes

Depends what you mean by feeder.

If you mean the person who got cc locked to death 10 times or who got 3v1 10 times because no one called MIA, no, that's not their fault though I may say "just play safe, we have late game" to try and keep morale up.

If you mean the person who died to their laner 10 times and are still trying to 1v1 like they are even, I may request they "play safer and farm, we win teamfights", but they don't deserve to be raged at.

If you mean the person who goes 0/3 and then sells all items, buys 6 tears, and stands in the enemy base spamming taunt while the enemy free farms them, then I at least am going to call for the team to report them while we try to win this 4v5.

No one deserves to be raged at in general. It's a game and while I want to win, I'm not going to scream at someone for playing badly. However, if I offer advice to my Leblanc vs Annie who's died 3 times saying, "maybe rush an abyssal scepter since it's good on Lb anyway and will help counter Annie's burst some," and get told "stfu noobs or I'll afk," then honestly there is nothing more I can do to try and help save this person from ragers since they are contributing to it.

Same as if we burst bot lanes summs and chunk them to half health then call for the jungler who's doing red to come gank since they are still in lane only to have that request ignored or, better yet, the jungler clears raptors and golems before wandering down at half health right after our adc backs. I don't deserve to rage at them because of that, but I'm hard pressed to support their actions when they complain "gg, we never group" as 4 of us sit mid under inhib tower trying to waveclear and the jungler dies at the enemy red.