Number 1 key to winning solo queue

Wolf Queen·Sep 25, 2015·60 votes·5,081 views

Stop being an ass. What does raging at people do for you? Nothing. You wanna win dont you? Then be nice to people. Honestly if all you people care about is winning then stop being such an ass. You win a ton more games by being nice and creating a positive attitude for you and your team rather then creating a negative one. Compliment each other, encourage each other and even if there feeding encourage them. Make them feel good about themself and your gonna win a ton more of your games. A lot of games arent even loss cause you have a bad team but simply cause your too busy fighting each other instead of fighting them. Ive come back from many games with teams who are feeding simply by not being an ass and being nice to them

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SimplicateSep 25, 20158 votes

This is 100% true. When someone start to flame at me for the mistakes I am making I just start to now care about winning and just more about getting away from the toxic people. I had a game a few days ago where I went 0/3 playing my main and was a little tilted by this, I knew what I had to do to come back and win the lane so I didn't call for jungler help who was busy snowballing other lanes. No one raged at me and no one spoke ill of me the entire game. In the end I was 9/6 and we still won. If you are constantly shit talking just to shit talk or targeting certain teammates who are playing poorly, always assume they will play worse and don't type at all. You aren't doing anything but padding your ego.

Wolf QueenSep 25, 20152 votes

thats great :D i wish more games would be like that ^_^ and gj on comming back

AmazingBeaverSep 25, 20154 votes

The #1 key is to avoid needless talk to anyone , don't encourage , don't judge , just communicate for game related things , (ss , drake soon , lats go nash , etc...). Win / Lose doesn't matter give your best , leave the game , forget your teammates in the next 4 seconds.

Wolf QueenSep 25, 20151 votes

you yourself can do that but what about the 4 other people? You cant control what they do. But you can influence it by creating a positive attitude from the start :)

AmazingBeaverSep 25, 20151 votes

Why pretend to care about the others , just to up your chances to win ? Naah man i rather not speak than speak lies or be a hypocrite. Why trying to get some one in the mood to play , why is he here in first place if he is not in mood to play ? If some one is in the game to vent you can kiss his ass all you want you ain't changing st . And i'm tired from people being fake positive , because wile you are busy giving attention to "Cry babies" and nursing them in chat , you are missing CS , not paying attention to whats happening in your lane and the map , not to mention you are "encouraging " his stupidity by taking part in it . Let the guy rage , QQ , and talk st all he want , and the end if no one respond to him ( unless he is insane and continue talk to himself ) he will stop . Stop sacrifice your game time , trying to help raging players (you are doing them , and you a bad favor) nor he nor you will get better this way .

Wolf QueenSep 25, 20153 votes

who said anything about faking being nice? I feel sorry for you if you have that bad of a life/anger that you think no one is actually nice

AmazingBeaverSep 25, 20151 votes

Yeah and this was so "nice" of you , to prove my point people are hypocrites . The second some one disagrees with you yo go and post stuff like " i feel sorry for you" acting like you know my life or something .

Wolf QueenSep 25, 20153 votes

um ok? Not really sure what your issue is but im just gonna stop talking now ^_^ hope you have a great day

Gunslinger744Sep 25, 20151 votes

This is just pathetic. First you try to start a fight and then you take the innocent bystander role. You disgust me.

Olath QuortekSep 26, 20152 votes

I don't get it... Like did you read this thread and these comments? This guy makes a thread about positivity helping to win games. AmazingBeaver's response is that he thinks cutting out any unnecessary dialog. I even agree with him. Don't talk if you don't need to. But that doesn't mean that being positive doesn't still help and Blood Wolf0 points that out in response. Amazing Beaver then immediately calls him a hypocrite and assumes he doesn't actually care. Blood Wolf0 simply responds by pointing out he's not faking nice and expresses his feelings at the thought that someone doesn't believe he's not faking... just because you choose to take it in a negative way doesn't mean he meant it in a negative way and I don't think he meant it in a negative way... I mean I'm a sarcastic asshole and I would have said something very similar in a sarcastic asshole way that I meant to be a sarcastic and asshole way. People are different but you can't just call them a hypocrite like you know their life... Ohh... Just like AmazingBeaver Points out in his next post... which seems rather hypocritical to my sarcastic asshole mind (there's the sarcastic assholery ehh?) So Blood Wolf0 replies by saying he's done talking to him probably because he isn't an asshole hypocrite that would just end a conversation by not responding. And now you show up and immediately jump on the guy promoting real positivity by once again assuming you know him well enough to call him "pathetic," blame him for starting a fight and then pretending he's innocent and saying it disgusts you while siding with the guy that actually started the fight by assuming Blood Wolf0 was faking positivity and then immediately jumping on the your a hypocrite and you don't know my life pedestal even though he was already being hypocritical and assumed he knows Blood Wolf0's life well enough to know he's faking positivity... Like maybe I just sound like an idiot here but it makes sense to me... Feel free to tell me if I'm an idiot so that I can try to think this through more.

Wolf QueenSep 26, 20152 votes

no your not an idiot :)

Bard in a DiaperSep 25, 20154 votes

um no. I will take 5 toxic diamond players over 5 nice platinum players anyday. Guarantee you we slaughter them regardless of infighting.

All that matters is skill level.

Wolf QueenSep 25, 201510 votes

I doubt theres any way to actually test that theory. But i would love to test you on that

COWmanLordSep 26, 20151 votes

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um no. I will take 5 toxic diamond players over 5 nice platinum players anyday. Guarantee you we slaughter them regardless of infighting.

All that matters is skill level.

Where do you fit in if there are already 5 toxic diamond players on the team? :P

Also you would be surprised how much infighting on a team can hurt your team. If these 5 toxic diamond players all did well then they probably aren't flaming each other and thus infighting is not an issue However not everyone will do perfect every game, and if people start flaming each other it creates a huge distraction.

Of course, the comparison of taking 5 toxic diamond players vs 5 nice plats isn't even relevant to this post. It is highly unlikely that you will ever find a game where you will find 5 diamonds vs 5 plats, unless it's like 5 diamonds 5s vs 5 plat 1s or something similar, in which case there skill difference is close enough that rank is not the biggest factor here.

The main purpose of this post is how you act in game. When you flame other people, it distracts them/puts them on tilt and can make them play worse. Encouraging people can help them stay motivated and focused. That's it.

Bard in a DiaperSep 26, 20151 votes

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Where do you fit in if there are already 5 toxic diamond players on the team? :P

Also you would be surprised how much infighting on a team can hurt your team. If these 5 toxic diamond players all did well then they probably aren't flaming each other and thus infighting is not an issue However not everyone will do perfect every game, and if people start flaming each other it creates a huge distraction.

Of course, the comparison of taking 5 toxic diamond players vs 5 nice plats isn't even relevant to this post. It is highly unlikely that you will ever find a game where you will find 5 diamonds vs 5 plats, unless it's like 5 diamonds 5s vs 5 plat 1s or something similar, in which case there skill difference is close enough that rank is not the biggest factor here.

The main purpose of this post is how you act in game. When you flame other people, it distracts them/puts them on tilt and can make them play worse. Encouraging people can help them stay motivated and focused. That's it.

well my point was more there is tons of toxic people in diamond 1-2 where I am, and even in masters many toxic people. Being nice doesn't help you climb, It's how good you are at this game. That was my point in the end. I didn't get here by being nice lol

Tohoko the NekoSep 30, 20151 votes

The loophole of that logic/theory is those 5 diamond players are more likely to lose as a whole rather than as individuals. They can outplay their lane opponent easily but unless they have flawless teamfight mechanics, more than sparks will fly if they are remotely even across the board. It's a ticking time bomb is what it is.

On the other hand, the 5 plat who are nice and cooperative will have a more solid objective control, teamfighthing and overall risk assessement because they work as a team and will adapt to the situation in order to compensate the weeker ally that hasn't been doing too well.

Individual skills are important, yes, but a TEAM DYNAMIC is even more so.

Bard in a DiaperSep 30, 20151 votes

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The loophole of that logic/theory is those 5 diamond players are more likely to lose as a whole rather than as individuals. They can outplay their lane opponent easily but unless they have flawless teamfight mechanics, more than sparks will fly if they are remotely even across the board. It's a ticking time bomb is what it is.

On the other hand, the 5 plat who are nice and cooperative will have a more solid objective control, teamfighthing and overall risk assessement because they work as a team and will adapt to the situation in order to compensate the weeker ally that hasn't been doing too well.

Individual skills are important, yes, but a TEAM DYNAMIC is even more so.

Team dynamic is important when skill level is even yes.

When I smurf I can easily take over a platinum game because they simply arent on the same skill level, and thats just 1 player affecting the game heavily.

Tohoko the NekoOct 1, 20151 votes

So, because you have a better skill level than a plat, it excuses your actions of being toxic on a smurf? I might be wrong, but that's what I'm getting at.

Bard in a DiaperOct 1, 20151 votes

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So, because you have a better skill level than a plat, it excuses your actions of being toxic on a smurf? I might be wrong, but that's what I'm getting at.

Nah just simply what I premise was to start, rather have a diamond skilled player on my team being salty in chat and getting mad then a nice plat player. I can just mute the diamond player and then he just turns into a more skilled version of the other player.

Nothing excuses being toxic, this is just what I would prefer on my team since I'm 24 at this point and people calling me names doesnt really affect me.

Warning ShotOct 1, 20151 votes

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Nah just simply what I premise was to start, rather have a diamond skilled player on my team being salty in chat and getting mad then a nice plat player. I can just mute the diamond player and then he just turns into a more skilled version of the other player.

Nothing excuses being toxic, this is just what I would prefer on my team since I'm 24 at this point and people calling me names doesnt really affect me.

You must be lucky then, most toxic player si run into if you mute them they either

Come to your lane and take your farm If youre adc and theyre support they make you 1v2, or vise versa if ur support and theyre adc If theyre jungle they never come to your lane even if youre being dove if theyre a tank they run away as soon as a fight starts to let you die etc etc

So you must be lucky.

Tohoko the NekoOct 1, 20151 votes

Or you probably have similar toxic/negative behavior that get on your nerves. No offense.

Try acting differently a few times, see if anything is different.

Tohoko the NekoOct 1, 20151 votes

Thank you for the clarification. I was concerned that you were part of the toxic of LoL plague.

I still think you should try to politely help lesser skilled players.

FiveofswordsSep 26, 20153 votes

its not even always someones fault if they are dying a lot. They might just be doing their job like trying to do damage in teamfights while their teamates suddenly decide to run away, or the jungler might be camping them, etc.

Wolf QueenSep 26, 20151 votes

I feel its everyone fault for someones death. I like to have the team mind, you lose together, you win together. Theres no game you 100% lose or win cause of a certain person. Some games ive won purely by playing noct and split pushing even when we very far behind. But if my team didnt keep them occupied i would never have been able to split push to begin with. Sometimes teams just roam the jungle while i push so my split pushing is cancelled. You win with a team and lose with a team :) unless someone is legit trolling i dont believe a game is loss purely by 1 person. After all other lanes couldve helped the one who is dying and losing

J0hn LeonhartSep 26, 20153 votes

+1, and players being friendly makes you want to keep playing, not turn off your computer and huddle in a corner with a blanket over your head (not that I've ever done this...)

Can we get this pinned please? I'm pretty sick of playing with toxic trash... Just the other day this guy asked us our mains so he didn't ban them accidentally, and of course he banned them as soon as we told him, then he bitched at us for playing poorly lol

Wolf QueenSep 26, 20151 votes

wow o.o ive had that happened before. Not to everyone but purely to me. I said i wanted to play teemo. He bans teemo

Slamurai JackSep 25, 20152 votes

It obviously won't win you games where your entire team gets completely shit on but it will hold close games together and allow you to pull out wins you wouldn't have gotten had you focused on raging instead. I've won tons of games by just holding out long enough for someone on the enemy team to start raging and throw the game.

The EcdysiastSep 25, 20152 votes

This... is so wrong.

Sure, you can say that people should stop being rude. That doesn't mean it helps them get any better. And no, you haven't come back from any game ever by being nice. It was by making good decisions as a team. Being nice takes just as much typing as being rude. The proper thing would be if you suggested people simply never use the chat box.

Wolf QueenSep 25, 20154 votes

Example. Adc rages at the support, makes the support want to help the adc less cause they are fighting. Or a lane is raging at the jungler. The jungler will no longer want to gank that lane, regardless if its a good idea or not. Adc is nice to the support, the support is now more eager to work together with the adc. A lane is nice to the jungler the jungler is more eager to gank that lane and get that laner fed. Majority of junglers will gank the lane that is toxic to them less. Majority of supports will not play at there best when they hate the adc they are laning with. Take football for example. if your quarterback is a dick to you are you gonna block for him or are you gonna let him get knocked out. Most would let him get knocked out

The EcdysiastSep 26, 20151 votes

That football thing is what gets you kicked off the team.

LordGeovanniSep 27, 20152 votes

not before the quaterback gets hospitalized

Wolf QueenSep 27, 20151 votes

lol that made me laugh

The EcdysiastSep 27, 20151 votes

One tackle won't put him in the hospital. You think that's worth getting kicked?

Wolf QueenSep 27, 20151 votes

1 tackle can put him in the hospital if its hard enough. All it takes is 1 hit. To me yea if i hate the quarterback im playing with id probably quit/find a new team anyways

LordGeovanniSep 27, 20151 votes

have to prove it was his fault first lots of ways to let a guy pass you with out makeing it obvious

The EcdysiastSep 30, 20151 votes

Then you obviously haven't ever played football, or any sport for that matter.

Wolf QueenSep 30, 20151 votes

lol. Thats like saying 1 bullet cant kill you. Like are you insane

Tohoko the NekoSep 30, 20151 votes

I thought you said you were never an ass. Guess that this comment makes you a liar then. Sorry for bursting your bubble.

Wolf QueenSep 30, 20151 votes

Never said i never am. And im not in a game. Everyone has people they dont like. Doesnt mean im not a nice person

Tohoko the NekoSep 30, 20151 votes

Well... you might want to extend the range of places and how often you are "nice" to others... Toxicity, in League, is not only present in game but also out game. The community has toxic tendencies and it's slowly choking itself out.

The EcdysiastSep 30, 20151 votes

What he's trying to do is blame his feeding and trolling on allies who do well but get mad at him for ruining the game for them.

Tohoko the NekoSep 30, 20151 votes

Which is the root of toxic behavior. One of them anyways, a really big one too I might add.

Olath QuortekSep 25, 20153 votes

lol well obviously it doesn't mean they will get better. We're not talking about skill level here. We're talking about performance... which is a much more malleable and varying aspect than skill is. It doesn't matter how good or bad your teammate is; 99% of the time you saying stupid shit just to say stupid shit is going to decrease their level of performance.

ltmetalSep 26, 20152 votes

Simple five step process to win more solo queue games:

Enter queue when not on tilt
Type "gl hf" in all chat.
/mute all
Communicate with pings
Don't get upset if anything goes wrong

Wolf QueenOct 2, 20151 votes

that dont always work :3 for example what if your top and the jungler asks to double jg? You cant communicate that with pings very well. Theres some things you need to talk for

Ryryairpower1Sep 27, 20151 votes

I agree with you, but I'm afraid you have phrased this incorrectly. The real key to being good in solo queue is to help others out. Talking to them nicely is better than being mean, but you should help others out, this doesn't mean gank them but it means that you have to make sure your teammates know what they're doing. Make sure your adc knows how to kite and your support works well with him/her. Make sure your top goes tank (unless he/she is Chogath ) but most importantly focus on yourself, your own lane. Don't start rage quitting after you lose a turret. Remember it's never to late to turn the game. Teemo out!

Wolf QueenSep 27, 20152 votes

i would love to help my team. To give them advice on what to do better, i do this all the time and 9 out of 10 times i get raged at for it. For example the adc dying first in fights i would say "vayne(example) try kiting and staying in the back, let the front lines tank please' and 9 out of 10 times i get raged at for it. I love telling people what they can do better and id love it if people did the same to me. But its rare that i can do it without being hated for it

Ryryairpower1Sep 27, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blood Wolf0,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=VjEWbk9e,comment-id=001a0000,timestamp=2015-09-27T02:29:41.237+0000)

i would love to help my team. To give them advice on what to do better, i do this all the time and 9 out of 10 times i get raged at for it. For example the adc dying first in fights i would say "vayne(example) try kiting and staying in the back, let the front lines tank please' and 9 out of 10 times i get raged at for it. I love telling people what they can do better and id love it if people did the same to me. But its rare that i can do it without being hated for it

yeah me too I also make sure that my team is doing the right thing but... at times there are ppl that act like a Teemo and start raging and it's quite annoying gj helping others.

Warning ShotSep 30, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blood Wolf0,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=VjEWbk9e,comment-id=001a0000,timestamp=2015-09-27T02:29:41.237+0000)

i would love to help my team. To give them advice on what to do better, i do this all the time and 9 out of 10 times i get raged at for it. For example the adc dying first in fights i would say "vayne(example) try kiting and staying in the back, let the front lines tank please' and 9 out of 10 times i get raged at for it. I love telling people what they can do better and id love it if people did the same to me. But its rare that i can do it without being hated for it

Most people including me live by the " if i want your advice ill ask for it - and worry about you and ill worry about me" mentality. While I also agree with the overall message of the post.

Tohoko the NekoSep 30, 20151 votes

You are making it sound more condesending than what you intended... To me anyways and it's likely that vayne player felt she was addressed in much the same way and that you were trying to lecture her on how to play her role by implying you can do it better. So, the rage you get, is more often than not, deserved based on the overall context of the game this example happened in(which is conveniently missing).