Who uses the new Cleaver?
I started remaking item sets and I... Man it seems like SO many champs can use Cleaver. Can i get a list? Thanks in advance :)
I started remaking item sets and I... Man it seems like SO many champs can use Cleaver. Can i get a list? Thanks in advance :)

Contrary to popular belief,
doesn't synergize as well with black cleaver. The less armor a target has, the less armor his passive ignores. It's still good on him, but not as good as it is on Jarvan or Wukong
It's still an overall damage increase. So yes, he does synergize with it. It may reduce the effectiveness of his extra armor pen, but it doesn't reduce the effectiveness of his damage.
could get it and it would be an overall dmg increase...
the item would increase anyones damage.
Thanks for the list but, Fiora? Why is that? Seems like she would benefit more from Last Whisper sicne she doesn't need the CDR or Phage effect
at max stacks cleaver is better than LW and she can stay on them. so get both lol
Also, the move speed bonus in conjunction with her E.
Sorry, did you think you were getting away? Not happening.
its amazing on
as well
I'm guessing vi and Garen will make great use of it.
Vi usually builds
force anyway, so the dual rage passive is wasted. If anything it's a stealth nerf to her.
most people have been saying AD bruisers, especially the less mobile ones (Darius, Olaf), and some of the old users (Garen, Wukong) because spin to win shred.
It's awesome on
. The shred makes Big Gnar hit harder and makes mini Gnar have a lot more kite potential with the phage passive stacked onto his W 3rd proc speed. Love it, I was able to kite a nasus that perma withered me as long as i landed my Qs.
It'll work amazingly on the New Ashe, build Runaan's and BC and you can shred 3-5 champions in a single auto attack with a fully empowered Q salvo attack (because BC applies on all instances of physical damage, and Runaan's is confirmed to fire a bolt for every arrow Ashe fires, meaning it fires 5 main shots and 10 side bolts).
Do not build it if you are your teams primary AD carry. The point is the increase the damage output of higher damage champions and as such is more of a supportive item than
which is fairly selfish by comparison.
built it in one of my games today, I suppose with his ult he could apply the stacks to multiple people. It looked good, but he was so fed he could have built anything.
I'd imagine this would be nice for Riven, considering the increase CDR ect
only thing is with it no longer being built from brutilizer its kind of the backburner. After you get first blood you normally push a wave then grab a brutilizer for the armor pen, cdr and damage. Tho it will be amazing on riven if she so chooses to go that way. just gives less of an early spike and snowball than the brutilizer.
Start Brutalizer then move to black cleaver. Simple enough.
While it could work on Yorick, I think he would benefit more from a hybrid pen item or even a magic pen item that worked similarly to black cleaver. Since the CDR helps him cast spells and two of which deal magic damage. If you go armor pen its mostly for your auto attacks which he doesn't get much attack speed. So it'll take longer to apply the stacks. Unless his q applies it?
On second thought it could work nicely if his q can apply stack. Although magic pen and gunblade is really strong on him as an ad caster you can spell vamp so much off w, e. Unfortunately no such item exists.
What is nice however is that yorick suffers a lot from getting kited. And going triforce makes him squisher. So this is a nice way to get movementspeed i while remaining tanky.
I'd also be curious to see how it works on Quinn top.
Cleaver only has 150 hp on Triforce... And it doesn't give the mana or AP or the Spellblade passive to sync with Q
???
Definitely a tank item. Tried it on Riven and the damage feels pitiful compared to brutalizer builds.

garen, renekton and wukong are the only champions who can buy this item second or third and not fuck themselves. everyone else doesnt benefit from it as much as from other existing items, thus always making it the worse choice.

Probably forgot some, but yeah, it's A LOT (dont even get me started on Luden's Echo)