Who uses the new Cleaver?

Sirsir·4/29/2015, 9:15:14 PM·1 votes·1,130 views

I started remaking item sets and I... Man it seems like SO many champs can use Cleaver. Can i get a list? Thanks in advance :)

24 Comments

Crett4/29/2015, 9:57:26 PM4 votes

Garen Aatrox Fiora Gnar Hecarim JarvanIV Olaf Pantheon Renekton Rengar Riven Skarner Talon Trundle Udyr Urgot Vi MonkeyKing XinZhao Yorick

Contrary to popular belief, Darius doesn't synergize as well with black cleaver. The less armor a target has, the less armor his passive ignores. It's still good on him, but not as good as it is on Jarvan or Wukong

junglerboy164/30/2015, 12:22:51 PM2 votes

It'll work amazingly on the New Ashe, build Runaan's and BC and you can shred 3-5 champions in a single auto attack with a fully empowered Q salvo attack (because BC applies on all instances of physical damage, and Runaan's is confirmed to fire a bolt for every arrow Ashe fires, meaning it fires 5 main shots and 10 side bolts).

Pæan4/30/2015, 8:26:30 AM2 votes

It's awesome on Gnar . The shred makes Big Gnar hit harder and makes mini Gnar have a lot more kite potential with the phage passive stacked onto his W 3rd proc speed. Love it, I was able to kite a nasus that perma withered me as long as i landed my Qs.

Skia Asteri4/30/2015, 4:32:03 PM2 votes

Do not build it if you are your teams primary AD carry. The point is the increase the damage output of higher damage champions and as such is more of a supportive item than item 3035 which is fairly selfish by comparison.

MrBuffington4/29/2015, 9:38:12 PM2 votes

most people have been saying AD bruisers, especially the less mobile ones (Darius, Olaf), and some of the old users (Garen, Wukong) because spin to win shred.

Cubism4/29/2015, 9:20:32 PM2 votes

I'm guessing vi and Garen will make great use of it.

Horn Scrub5/3/2015, 2:49:12 AM1 votes

Ahri Akali Zyra Swain RekSai Nami Morgana Ezreal Brand Cassiopeia Gragas Janna

AyRe CoNteMpT5/3/2015, 10:04:23 AM1 votes

garen, renekton and wukong are the only champions who can buy this item second or third and not fuck themselves. everyone else doesnt benefit from it as much as from other existing items, thus always making it the worse choice.

Akeydel5/3/2015, 10:12:46 AM1 votes

Aatrox Darius Fiora Gangplank Garen Gnar Hecarim Irelia JarvanIV Jax Jayce LeeSin MasterYi Nocturne Olaf Pantheon Renekton Rengar Riven Shaco Talon Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Urgot Vi Volibear MonkeyKing XinZhao Yorick

Probably forgot some, but yeah, it's A LOT (dont even get me started on Luden's Echo)

ZergReap4/29/2015, 9:50:47 PM1 votes

Twitch built it in one of my games today, I suppose with his ult he could apply the stacks to multiple people. It looked good, but he was so fed he could have built anything.

Głacıes4/30/2015, 4:41:47 AM1 votes

I'd imagine this would be nice for Riven, considering the increase CDR ect

LilxPaprika4/30/2015, 10:29:25 AM1 votes

While it could work on Yorick, I think he would benefit more from a hybrid pen item or even a magic pen item that worked similarly to black cleaver. Since the CDR helps him cast spells and two of which deal magic damage. If you go armor pen its mostly for your auto attacks which he doesn't get much attack speed. So it'll take longer to apply the stacks. Unless his q applies it?

On second thought it could work nicely if his q can apply stack. Although magic pen and gunblade is really strong on him as an ad caster you can spell vamp so much off w, e. Unfortunately no such item exists.

What is nice however is that yorick suffers a lot from getting kited. And going triforce makes him squisher. So this is a nice way to get movementspeed i while remaining tanky.

I'd also be curious to see how it works on Quinn top.

exiledFromBadmen4/30/2015, 10:58:50 AM1 votes

Shyvana???

Drunk Rummate4/30/2015, 4:02:36 PM1 votes

Definitely a tank item. Tried it on Riven and the damage feels pitiful compared to brutalizer builds.