what to do when playng a support that is extreamly team reliant and your team is behind?

rubberduckie666·May 15, 2015·1 votes·1,053 views

so in my last game i was playing game was going good for the first 5 min untill our top started feeding hard then our mid and so on then my team started getting toxic and i thought to myself "hey i could turn this arround with all my cc im sure of it"... well long story short my janna cant carry when my team is rageing at eachother more than actually playing.

so i want to know what im supposed to do in that situation when my team either behind or the other team has a player or two that is better than our "carrys"

also heres the post game stats for any one that wants to see my kda http://i.imgur.com/mhhNea9.jpg?1

8 Comments

IcyPepperMay 15, 20152 votes

Here, I'll use an example from a game I played recently:

I'm playing Soraka with a Graves vs an Anivia (with ignite) and another Graves. Top lane Irelia gives first blood, but apologizes. She dies again later (or possibly twice, can't recall) while my lane is completely stagnant. They keep dodging my poke, I zone out the jungler and interrupt Vi's Q with Equinox, and I heal their poke. Nothing's happening, except we're slowly losing in the battle of attrition.

So I decide to do something about it.

I recall, telling Graves to stay pushed to our tower, and then head to Irelia while the fed Pantheon is ganking mid. Together, we manage to get the top tower and Irelia gets two kills with my help in the span of two minutes max, just as Graves starts having trouble. I get there in time, and everyone's happy.

We eventually won that game after I alleviated some of our early game's weak playing, and the rest of my team easily carried once they lost the disadvantage.

The moral is that you need to roam. You aren't a babysitter. Help someone out at the earliest signs of trouble and help them snowball as soon as you can. Think of yourself as a primary support and a secondary jungler.

rubberduckie666May 16, 20151 votes

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Here, I'll use an example from a game I played recently:

I'm playing Soraka with a Graves vs an Anivia (with ignite) and another Graves. Top lane Irelia gives first blood, but apologizes. She dies again later (or possibly twice, can't recall) while my lane is completely stagnant. They keep dodging my poke, I zone out the jungler and interrupt Vi's Q with Equinox, and I heal their poke. Nothing's happening, except we're slowly losing in the battle of attrition.

So I decide to do something about it.

I recall, telling Graves to stay pushed to our tower, and then head to Irelia while the fed Pantheon is ganking mid. Together, we manage to get the top tower and Irelia gets two kills with my help in the span of two minutes max, just as Graves starts having trouble. I get there in time, and everyone's happy.

We eventually won that game after I alleviated some of our early game's weak playing, and the rest of my team easily carried once they lost the disadvantage.

The moral is that you need to roam. You aren't a babysitter. Help someone out at the earliest signs of trouble and help them snowball as soon as you can. Think of yourself as a primary support and a secondary jungler.

well let me ask you this: when my lane partner is struggling to the point that if i leave they will die (as is the case with most bronze adc's) not to mention alot of people in bronze dont realize when they can and CANNOT win a dual what am i suposed to do?

normally i will roam if my adc is either smart enough to play safe or has a good escape but a VERY large majorty of players dont even listen to other team mates and i mean they dont even consider what some one else suggests like id say "if they're mid is roaming you should punish them by pushing they're tower" then they just insult me and tell me to get cancer (please tell me this is only a bronze thing)

IcyPepperMay 16, 20151 votes

It's a pretty bronze thing, don't worry.

One thing I've learned to do (and my friends keep refusing to do it at times) is that mid-game, the midlaner (if AP) and adc should rotate lanes, especially if bot lane had won. An apc with cc and waveclear and hold off the enemy adc if they're behind much easier than even a fed adc, and your adc can take mid tower faster than the apc if the jungler can either zone out or kill the enemy mid.

However, if you're in the elo where lane partners struggle and need a support as a lifeline, consider playing more aggressive supports so you can strictly dictate when to engage. Ping danger if you're just peeling.

DatalessMay 16, 20152 votes

The best thing you can do is keep a level head and keep playing YOUR game, don't get sucked into your teams drama.

When things go south I mute every member of my team and communicate by pinging on whatever objective I want to play around next. Just keep playing to the best of your ability and hope that your team rallies around you after a good fight. I have won games where my team does nothing but argue by "ignoring" them and doing my best impression of Navi from Legend of Zelda. Then again I play a lot of Bard so I'm kinda just used to annoying people and "helping"..... hue.

Also no need to link your "KDA" man, it's an imaginary number that nobody cares about.

rubberduckie666May 16, 20151 votes

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The best thing you can do is keep a level head and keep playing YOUR game, don't get sucked into your teams drama.

When things go south I mute every member of my team and communicate by pinging on whatever objective I want to play around next. Just keep playing to the best of your ability and hope that your team rallies around you after a good fight. I have won games where my team does nothing but argue by "ignoring" them and doing my best impression of Navi from Legend of Zelda. Then again I play a lot of so I'm kinda just used to annoying people and "helping"..... hue.

Also no need to link your "KDA" man, it's an imaginary number that nobody cares about.

well i do mute people when they start acting toxic . also its just for that one guys thats going to say "i bet you fed and your blameing your team"

DatalessMay 16, 20151 votes

Here's the thing, why do you care so much about what "that one guy" says? YOU know you did your best and YOU are asking for help from a place of honesty and sincerity, I understand where you're coming from because I'm a support main and I know what it's like to feel powerless in a game. You have to rise above that.

RP TzuyuMay 16, 20151 votes

buy wards, ping and peel... thats all u need to do as a support, carrying a team, tanking, dealing damages ain't ur job, keeping ur carries alive is enough, and if they ain't appreciate ur effort, fking die alot to the point that they /ff, let them know that a powerless support does matter in a game. if anyone in a team threaten to feed, or whatever, u might as well take a part of it and have fun... its not all about winning a game, its about enjoying the fun in every possible ways if someone autolock and refuse to communicate, tag along in his way, take his cs, his gold, his kills, to the point that he has to talk trash, so u can have more options on reporting him, at lv30, winning/losing ain't that much in normal, its even better in soloQ,

Mayor StubbsMay 15, 20151 votes

The best thing to do imo is as soon as you realize youre team is starting to fall behind, start roaming mid and try for ganks. Other than that, build like an AP carry if the game goes on long enough. I'd dump everything other than sightstone for standard apc build