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Olaf si so overpowered that people puts him in team when he has no sinergy.

Thilmer··30 votes·11,900 views

I just saw a mage team throwing a 2 stars Olaf into it because YOLO, and the guy inmediately went into a 6 wins streak.

I figth him, and I see that 2 stars Olaf with item 3072 item 3124 kill most of my units while also being inmortal.

Olaf This guy and his infinite duration skill are stupid in TFT rigth now

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KnightLakega4 votes

oh look Riot epically failing at balancing yet another one of their games? say it aint so! and look! its just a small handful of basic champs with basic abilities and they STILL can't balance this crap... lmao....

Fizzletop1 votes

And this failure still isn't as bad as a net 5 and 6% exp buff to solo laners in SR.

Riot has lost their damn design mind this season. To think that such a huge change wouldn't have cascading effects to a game that's had 10 years of design carefully built on the old values was and is lunacy.

KnightLakega1 votes

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And this failure still isn't as bad as a net 5 and 6% exp buff to solo laners in SR.

Riot has lost their damn design mind this season. To think that such a huge change wouldn't have cascading effects to a game that's had 10 years of design carefully built on the old values was and is lunacy.

Sad, but riot really is just a joke these days.

RoaringWhisper2 votes

Olaf and Janna are two champs I throw into any comp...

KnightLakega2 votes

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Olaf and Janna are two champs I throw into any comp...

Olaf, Janna, Annie, and Mundo... These 4 champs carried me to 3rd place with literally zero synergy.. Only reason I honestly lost is because I had no idea wtf I was doing with items.. and I still got 2-3rd place, multiple times..

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Thresh for me. Hell, there's been plenty of occasion where I ran 2 Thresh, just to double up on the AoE shield.

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

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Just for fun, Lets look at a 2 glacial, 2-star Olaf with no items, since he's the most complained about (And has internal AS scaling with Ragnarok that we can use to demonstrate AS's impact).

Olaf AS: 0.85 -> 1.7 / 2.215 / 3.4

20% chance to stun for 1.5 seconds at 2.215 attacks per second ; convert to 3.3225 attacks per 1.5 seconds. So 3 attacks gives a 1 - [(0.8)^3] = 0.488.

So an ulting Olaf with No items has an almost 49% chance to stun a target again before the previous stun ends.

  • A 4 glacial, 2-star Olaf would have a 35% chance to stun on-hit, giving him an {1 - [(0.65)^3] = 0.725375} approximately 73% chance to re-stun.
  • A 6 glacial 2-star Olaf with 50% proc chance will have a re-stun chance of {1 - [(0.5)^3] = 0.875} almost 88%.
  • A 2-glacial, 3 star Olaf (Good luck) with 5.1 attacks per 1.5 seconds would have an {1 - [(0.8)^5] = 0.67232} approximately 67% chance to re-stun a target.
  • A 4 glacial, 3-star Olafwill have a re-stun chance of {1 - [(0.65)^5] = 0.8839709375‬} about 88%.
  • Heaven forbid, you get 6 glacial 3-star olaf {1 - [(0.5)^5] = 0.96875}. Almost 97% chance they will never move.
Sanitarium331 votes

And this does not feel like diminishing even vs 90% dodge chance. His stun downtime is virtually zero, which is disgusting af. Basically, dodge should've have been a balancing act and keep champs like Olaf at bay, but since RFC is dead and buried, you can see results as the ones above...

Also, regarding RFC demise: because this item doesn't break through dodge anymore champs like Khazix become almost completely useless vs item 3046 . His ability is autocrit and PD is 100% dodge chance. Just decide and remove one of them: the champ or the item. Or revive RFC. Yet another dev pitfall...

ThunderCraft1 votes

new senna + lucian its going to be the new hotness.

Heroboy101 votes

I'm sorry that I said Olaf is not OP.

Original Sin1 votes

no synergy

stacked with core items

pick one

Barcid1 votes

He means team synergy, where Olaf brings nothing to the table in terms of team bonuses. So the berserker and glacial power ups go completely unused.

And he's not wrong, either. Of all the 4 cost units, the only one I'd consider using by itself is Olaf, maybe Janna if I can pick up another Mystic or if I have a good enough frontline. Like, Brand's fantastic as a unit, but without the mage or infernal buffs, his damage output can be safely gimped with stuns or assassins. Olaf meanwhile is absurd just by himself even without a complete stack - so long as he has guinsoo's he can do some asinine shit.

And my god if he actually does utilize the glacial buff, you might as well just write off that game unless you've hit level 9 with mages and a 4x warden buff.

Thilmer1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Original Sin,realm=OCE,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=u0YW6okx,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-27T20:43:03.186+0000)

no synergy

stacked with core items

pick one

A glacial+berserker in a team with no other glacials or berserkers shouldn't kill half my team in late game, no matter what ítems is he using.

Heroboy101 votes

I just succeeded 3 stars Olaf with BT, Rageblade and PD, 4 Glaciar, 3 Poison, 3 Berserker, 2 Ranger, 2 Electric. He raped anything except Mages and 2 stars Singed that shut him down quickly :)

Only magic dmg units can face him.

FireDrizzle1 votes

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I just succeeded 3 stars Olaf with BT, Rageblade and PD, 4 Glaciar, 3 Poison, 3 Berserker, 2 Ranger, 2 Electric. He raped anything except Mages and 2 stars Singed that shut him down quickly :)

Only magic dmg units can face him.

Poision delays his ult too much. Poision is broken as fuck in the lategame, you cant force it early but poision is gamebreaking. Wardens and clouds counter physical damage but are useless vs lots of enemies, actually cloud doesnt even really counter that. Poision counters the autoattack based berserkers as well as comps that rely on casting.

yeulx1 votes

Even then magic units dont stand a chance i played a game and had a 3* brand perfect positioning and my comp still couldnt deal with him, brand with spear,deathcap,morellos, ocean mages with some mystic simply due to him attacking healing and perma freezing my team tho they overloaded him so hard, aside from his kit.. Berserkers aoe freeze , glacial its disgusting and which ever rioters made this set deserve to be fired

Crescent Dusk1 votes

I'd take an Olaf over the endless dash super safe Lee Sin with a point and click ult that deletes half of your HP while CC'ing you at the same time.

Thilmer2 votes

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I'd take an Olaf over the endless dash super safe Lee Sin with a point and click ult that deletes half of your HP while CC'ing you at the same time.

This is the Teamfigth Tactics fórum...

Daddy ReTaric1 votes

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I'd take an Olaf over the endless dash super safe Lee Sin with a point and click ult that deletes half of your HP while CC'ing you at the same time.

Its tft thread... not soloq..

Terrorist58121 votes

You obviously haven't seen crit syndra.

Sanitarium331 votes

Add a Dragon Claw to that and you can beat even ocean mages. I will personally play poison glacials into Olaf until every eliminated player will come here and yell for this shit to stop.

I don't give af that they'll add soulbounds and crap. I just rekt decent builds from players and was actually feeling sorry for them as I did cos some bloody devs can't fckin use what gray matter they got up their skulls.

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