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Anybody else excited for Fiddlesticks rework?

Thilmer··61 votes·24,282 views

Just saying.

I haven't been able to playing him in years (because his kit is so outdated) and his lore has been out of place since the Academy of War disappeared from the lore.

Lots of work to do here, but lots of potential too…

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RiotCarnival Knights51 votes

yes

SuicidePlank6 votes

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yes

It's a unicorn. :o

Caitlyn FTW1 votes

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4 Step Cadence5 votes

Literally says both in the original poll/post-poll announcement and the one that they just posted that they are making him scary.

Warlord Dienekes8 votes

Just gonna point out: "Turns out that having a cacophony of random people saying things at you is extremely off putting in a gameplay environment (for the player as well as their opponents) Whoops."

Why whoops? Extremely off putting sounds exactly like what Fiddlesticks should be. That is the single most twisted cool thing in the entire write up.

Leetri2 votes

Do you want to get a headache and nausea every time you play Fiddlesticks? That's an easy way to effectively delete a champion from the game. There's off-putting and then there's off-putting.

RiotCarnival Knights10 votes

Let me put it this way. In the jungle, it could easily confuse players who think that a different champion has entered their sight radius or activated an ability nearby. In lane, it can confuse multiple players since VO is a huge gameplay tell for the vast majority of champions, including the person playing Fiddlesticks. It was pointed out that at times it could feel really disorienting. Maybe two VAs would be okay, but definitely not five.

As cool as it might sound on the surface, the gameplay implications were fairly severe. I had to let the idea go. :'''(

Buuuuut for now I'm exploring a different version of that type of script, as I said in the update. My producer was visibly creeped out by the current pass, so I'm feeling pretty good about it. I'll be able to talk about that more next time on Fiddlesticks Z.

Terozu2 votes

So make it toggleable. >.>

MeBuffULongTime1 votes

Is there any way we could ever hear that first version with the five voices? I read about that version in the last update on the rework progress and that concept just sounds fascinating from a psychological standpoint.

DARCKD00M1 votes

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4 Step Cadence1 votes

Yes, I'm sure a narrative writer had everything to do with that decision.

Go spam Riot Mort if you want answers/change. Or, better yet, don't spam Rioters at all.

Terozu2 votes

Is there any chance of Fidds getting his 'waiting' back?

That was always the creepiest part to me.

He doesn't chase, he doesn't run... He waits.

PapiPequeñoPlays1 votes

Resurrecting this just to ask you to pass along the idea to change Fiddle's ult from Crowstorm to CAWCAWphony. If that multiple voice actors thing goes through...it's just too perfect to pass up.

Lapis26 votes

I am absolutely not excited for his rework. I have a feeling his new gameplay is going to involve jumpscares and I'm sensitive

Dead Anime Dad7 votes

It doesn't already?

Lapis10 votes

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It doesn't already?

I mean, yeah, but current fiddle doesn't hold a candle to getting pulled with a blitzcrank hook into a bush. That's the shit that gets me. If they can recreate that feeling in the rework i'm screwed

Dead Anime Dad1 votes

Fair, but for me , there's nothing scarier than a rengar or a khazix popping out of a bush and deleting me.

Ginger9763 votes

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Fair, but for me , there's nothing scarier than a rengar or a khazix popping out of a bush and deleting me.

This. Not so much Kha, but the only time I've been jumpscared while playing LoL is from a Rengar ambush.

nm10101 votes

Back when he didn't give you any indication he was ulting I got jumped on going to my red buff while talking with somebody and almost knocked over my entire desk and computer. Headphones + the rengar roar was super loud lol.

Ginger9763 votes

Oh man....headphones too. I couldn't do it. And its even worse because by the time you realize what happened, you're already respawned back at pool.

Sirsir3 votes

The most terrifying and hilarious moment of this game for me was getting pulled into a bush with 5 people in it. I jump in such a way I literally take my hands off the keyboard for like a full 2 seconds...

Then remember I'm Janna. Ult flash Q and I somehow live... I was laughing my ass off the whole rest of the game...

3TWarrior1 votes

I remember when the saying used to be, "don't hit the tank, you're only helping them engage us!"

Sirsir1 votes

And now it doesn't matter since tanks are like paper :\

3TWarrior1 votes

well, less like paper and more like two people in one hitbox

videos with durable champs still take a lot to bust, but a lot tends to be a single engage from the entire team at once

14daysuspensionk7 votes

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I am absolutely not excited for his rework. I have a feeling his new gameplay is going to involve jumpscares and I'm sensitive

He'll also have stealth, a dash, and a 3 hit passive.

legacy dude5 votes

nooooo he will have stealth, 3 hit passive, 3 dashes, incredible sustain, a heal, huge cc, unbalanced stats and a broken hitbox

14daysuspensionk3 votes

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nooooo he will have stealth, 3 hit passive, 3 dashes, incredible sustain, a heal, huge cc, unbalanced stats and a broken hitbox

Oh, right.

HA I am Shaco HA2 votes

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I am absolutely not excited for his rework. I have a feeling his new gameplay is going to involve jumpscares and I'm sensitive

if they added jumpscares they'd have to add the whole "This game may have jumpscares involved" and the "Riot is not responsible for anything" etc etc

legacy dude1 votes

what would be cool is if they added an ability that gives him stealth or something and then feared his target as he comes out of stealth and flashes the screen, therefore not making it a 'proper' jumpscare but still making him scary. the ability may be op but idk.

HA I am Shaco HA1 votes

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what would be cool is if they added an ability that gives him stealth or something and then feared his target as he comes out of stealth and flashes the screen, therefore not making it a 'proper' jumpscare but still making him scary. the ability may be op but idk.

yeah and then gives the enemy a seizure, good idea! They can't add something that flashes your whole screen like that.

legacy dude1 votes

i may have not made my post very clear. i meant flashes the screen sort of like how rengar does with his ult. i hope that cleared up any confusion

SammyDayspring19 votes

More nervous than excited. Most of the reworks lately have been ridiculously OP, and then Riot spends the next few years nerfing and buffing them in every patch. The cycle is tedious.

SuicidePlank2 votes

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More nervous than excited. Most of the reworks lately have been ridiculously OP, and then Riot spends the next few years nerfing and buffing them in every patch. The cycle is tedious.

Was the same before that, people just tend to forget. Have you played when GP was reworked? That was something else.

Jimmy Rustles11 votes

I'm more hyped for his cosmetic standards

He's supposed to be scary but he's such a goof in game, except for the praetorian one, where he is a mindless murder machine

So hopefully more spooky, less goofy

hnnt3r1 votes

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I'm more hyped for his cosmetic standards

He's supposed to be scary but he's such a goof in game, except for the praetorian one, where he is a mindless murder machine

So hopefully more spooky, less goofy

true, but his goofyness is charming, I picked up fiddlesticks as a main about 2 years ago and I am scared to see what will happen to my baby and how it will affect his playstyle. If it is changed I as a fiddlesticks onetrick (yes we do exist) are screwed, at least for a bit

Ugh Lee6 votes

I'm actually really excited if they have a sort of cinematic for him. Imagine like a campfire scene where children tell ghost stories of fiddlesticks, and there's a jump scare at the end where he rips open the screen or something.

14daysuspensionk3 votes

I'm more excited for the Volibear one, soon we will no longer have to play polar bear simulator with a bear that has pancake feet.

Power Mac2 votes

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I'm more excited for the Volibear one, soon we will no longer have to play polar bear simulator with a bear that has pancake feet.

I've always thought of Voli as an albino grizzly.

Power Mac3 votes

Not really. I'm one of those who don't understand what's wrong with Fiddle's kit. Imho, it needed an update, not a rework. Its R is iconic, its W is the quintessence of its kit, its E is amazingly useful and the Q is a nice touch. Besides, if Riot is going to keep just its R, we'll be left with a single life-absorbing champion (that is, Vladi) in the entire game. I like Riot's ideas on a jumpscare Fiddle, but they could have simply reworked his Q and passive, maybe his R too.

Thilmer2 votes

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Not really. I'm one of those who don't understand what's wrong with Fiddle's kit. Imho, it needed an update, not a rework.

His Q is the most absurd CC in the game, one of the weakest, and one of the few that do 0 damage.

His W snares the user. Seriously, champions haven't had this kind of auto-counterplay in ages.

The crows from the E ricochet almost AT RANDOM. This is really absurd, I can't think of any other skill that ricochet at random.

Then we have the R. The problem with this is that nowadays there are wards everywhere, because of the trinkets. Also, massive CD, you have to Chanel it, it goes on CD again if someone interrupt your channeling… too many weak points.

Power Mac2 votes

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His Q is the most absurd CC in the game, one of the weakest, and one of the few that do 0 damage.

His W snares the user. Seriously, champions haven't had this kind of auto-counterplay in ages.

The crows from the E ricochet almost AT RANDOM. This is really absurd, I can't think of any other skill that ricochet at random.

Then we have the R. The problem with this is that nowadays there are wards everywhere, because of the trinkets. Also, massive CD, you have to Chanel it, it goes on CD again if someone interrupt your channeling… too many weak points.

You know, except for the E, you actually changed my mind. Thanks!

Sillae1 votes

He's gonna get stealth/invisibility I just know it

Galiö2 votes

Its confirmed he doesnt have either

robotmaster1 votes

Watch fiddle be release broken. Then have half of his kit removed because there is no to little counter play like these poor, unfortunate, fools. Irelia Aatrox Akali

Aatrox Airlines1 votes

Aatrox: has 3 extremely delayed and telegraphed skillshits which need to be hit in unique ways as his only damage source

Community: "no counterplay"

Akali and irelia truly dint have counterplay tho

robotmaster1 votes

Not his Q. His ultimate had no counter play to it. He would have a ga on 140 sec cooldown. So riot removed it. I can give you a list of the things riot removed from these 3 champs alone and the reason why I didn’t vote for Shyvana. When they said we will rework her like Irelia I didn’t want that.

Caretaker Jack1 votes

... I would. I love Shyvana and would rather see her broken than the way she is now.

I'm sick of the way she is now also. You pretty much have to go AP to carry because 2 items isn't enough to carry on her as AD unless absolutely nothing happens for 20 minutes in your game. Even then you just get kited to death.

Caretaker Jack1 votes

oh no... is that guy working on fiddle??

4 Step Cadence2 votes

Fiddlesticks is being worked on by Squad5 for gameplay, Kindlejack for (concept) art, Carnival Knights for lore, and probably a few others.

I don't know who worked on Aatrox, Akali, or Irelia.

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