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Yet another patch where Item RNG isn't fixed

Śhunpo··38 votes·11,353 views

I guess that one guy on a 10+ win streak because of him/her getting 5+ items in the first 3 minion waves is really good. Like they have an amazing amount of skill to be beating me with items that I cannot even get due to poor luck. It's a very fun and exciting experience!

(This is all sarcasm if you couldn't already tell)

Please fix Item RNG. Make it consistent for each player, where each player gets the same amount of items. Thanks Rito.

29 Comments

AtheosisX8 votes

Yep. I'm done. I just had a game where I got basically no components (outside of the ones from the carousel) until raptors and two of those were spatulas (which did not work with my comp at all). Meanwhile there were people sitting on perfect items for their hypercarries. This game mode is just a joke presently. Oh and Hextech is the definition of unfun imo, so it seems like they are going in the wrong direction to me.

Ztoka4 votes

2 spatulas = an extra champ. What comp does that not work well with?

Jennifer4202 votes

sure 2 spatulas/force of nature kinda fit everywhere but its the same as saying "i dont need statikk for my rangers, ludens on varus also works"

yeah ofc it works but statikk is 10 times better if you have 4 rangers

AtheosisX1 votes

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2 spatulas = an extra champ. What comp does that not work well with?

One that is completely item starved and nearly out of health by the time it gets that second spatula. Sitting on that one useless spatula for the whole game only to get a second near the end was a real kick in the balls.

Jennifer4203 votes

riot alrdy posted on twitter they are happy with how the current system is.

so it wont get fixed. accept it they dont care

nGio2 votes

Add the Hextech for another layer of rng. The game is purely a coin flip at this point.

Yordle Xayah2 votes
  • Plays Casino game
  • Expects RNG to be fixed to be fair

Welcome to the casino [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Worst JG Wins2 votes

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  • Plays Casino game
  • Expects RNG to be fixed to be fair

Welcome to the casino [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

I've been playing RNG based games since i first played MTG in 1996. Probably before your shitposting ass was even born. This is literally the first mandatory mechanic i've ever encountered which gives you a random amount of resources.

GhaelWinds1 votes

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I've been playing RNG based games since i first played MTG in 1996. Probably before your shitposting ass was even born. This is literally the first mandatory mechanic i've ever encountered which gives you a random amount of resources.

Settlers of Catan.

Worst JG Wins1 votes

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Settlers of Catan.

Nope.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

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I've been playing RNG based games since i first played MTG in 1996. Probably before your shitposting ass was even born. This is literally the first mandatory mechanic i've ever encountered which gives you a random amount of resources.

I love how you point out how I'm clearly shit posting yet you can't just ignore the obvious troll... https://imgur.com/MnbvQ40.png[]

I was playing Ecco the Dolphin for PC back in 96. Loved Spencer Nilsen's OST so much.

Worst JG Wins1 votes

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I love how you point out how I'm clearly shit posting yet you can't just ignore the obvious troll... https://imgur.com/MnbvQ40.png[]

I was playing Ecco the Dolphin for PC back in 96. Loved Spencer Nilsen's OST so much.

You laugh at and trash talk trolls. You don't ignore them, they might end it all if you do, lord knows they don't got much else in their life. Wouldn't want that to happen <3

Yordle Xayah1 votes

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You laugh at and trash talk trolls. You don't ignore them, they might end it all if you do, lord knows they don't got much else in their life. Wouldn't want that to happen <3

I wasn't the one who got triggered at a boards post by a nobody. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

yay nibbers2 votes

Hot conspiracy theory here but I think TFT is just a way to sell more lootboxes in the little legends. The game is a gamble so you get addicted and invested.

14daysuspensionk1 votes

Had to play against a Varus with item 3031 item 3124 item 3124 , then my opponent got to let his Karthus ult 3 fucking times in one round.

1 Inch and Proud1 votes

carousels are now hyper buffed. i just saw one with 6 complete items after the first drag. nice.

Ztoka1 votes

I understand it not being identical, but it should definitely balance out at krugs or wolves.. Items do seem to balance out if you survive til the end, sadly though, many players are boned hard before then and never get to catch up w/ items to help level the playing field. Normally, when you look at the top 4 players mid game, at least 2 of those 4 are there because they have good item rng, rather than skill. It's pretty sad having better synergy etc. yet getting wooped because the game felt you didn't need items quite yet.

Nick30151 votes

Itsalmost like thats just the nature of an RNG based system......

YambrinZ1 votes

RNG games having RNG? Not exactly top tier analysis here. Funny how you never see challenger players complaining about RNG as an excuse. Must just be they are the ones who get the best RNG all the time.

Worst JG Wins2 votes

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RNG games having RNG? Not exactly top tier analysis here. Funny how you never see challenger players complaining about RNG as an excuse. Must just be they are the ones who get the best RNG all the time.

I complain about them all the time. Guess i'm just D1 Trash though QQ.

Higher Tier players play better when they get bad RNG and they don't throw as often when they get good RNG. That doesn't mean all RNG is good for the game. Some RNG like unit RNG allows for skill expression with how you spend your resources. How many items you get though is really doesn't translate into skill expression of any sort.

Kshaway1 votes

Head onto PBE right now. They have removed all item RNG. You now only get items from carousel round, meaning by end game you have 2-3 completed items.

It’s not fun at all. Suddenly Demons, Yordles, Brawlers, Knights, and Nobles are the only viable unit comps

Lethium1 votes

Funny, I just went on the forums to say something about this and here i see this.

My last game my first 3 rounds i got one coin and one item. Every minion wave after I only got one item. How can it be competitive when I see people with several completed items and most of mine are scattered on the couple characters I was able to pick up before losing very quickly.

I figured on raptors I'd get at least 2 items to make up for getting next to nothing up to that point... but I got 1 spatula... the guy i face has multiple warmogs, ludens echo, rage blade, and more... I have... thornmail and a zekes herald.

Once it gets to the dragon, everyone is pretty much getting the same amount of reward.. but if up to that point I get 3 items and someone else gets 6+... how do you come back from that. RNG is cool and all, but gifted rng should balance out over the course of the game.

Makarakarn1 votes

It's okay lol, now you can just screw over anyone who relies on items

Śhunpo1 votes

Except EVERYONE tries to run Hextech now, meaning you'll likely never see them thanks to the shared champ pool.

Makarakarn1 votes

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Except EVERYONE tries to run Hextech now, meaning you'll likely never see them thanks to the shared champ pool.

Good think you only need 2 of them and there's like what..4?

Śhunpo1 votes

Yes, let me run 2 level 1 champions just to MAYBE disable their items TEMPORARILY.

Makarakarn1 votes

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Yes, let me run 2 level 1 champions just to MAYBE disable their items TEMPORARILY.

Okay then, don't run them and get run over immediately by their 1 million items, your choice lol.

Śhunpo1 votes

That is the single most frustrating argument I've heard in regards to this gamemode, besides "oh it's supposed to be luck based".

Just because Hextech CAN disable items, doesn't mean that items should be allowed to be egregiously stupid in terms of each player being equal and being allowed to show off their skill.

CleverSloth1 votes

The issue isn't random items the issue is the range of random items. One person getting 0 and one person getting 6 in the first 3 rounds is the problem. Lower the variance so you get at least 3 and no one gets more than 6 and it's fine.

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