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Could it be that Shapeshifter is weak?

BigFBear··1 votes·725 views

Since the patch they always die before the transformation

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Jamaree1 votes

I think that is for balance for how strong their trans are

Caitlyn FTW1 votes

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iainB851 votes

Really? While the spiders are a good delaying tactic, I feel like whenever I build Elise she's being FAR out performed by even 1 star champions on the damage chart. Feels like she does almost nothing except hopefully soak some damage, which doesn't win games.

AuronRoo1 votes

the time it takes them to generate mana, without items, seems quite long. but there isnt much worse to see than a transformed gnar with that passive stacked.

hrooza dota 1 votes

the meta is just not fitting them, the top comps are full of on hit effects and assassins , assassins one shot them before trans while on hit comps like gun slingers and voli bear turn them into 0 stars/silence them before trans.

Titanium701 votes

They have two issues right now:

  • With AS and therfore Wild nerfed into oblivion they need far to long to get anything done!

  • With Sunslingers and Assassins running ramapant (Which is totally not because of Pirates) dealing thousands of DPS with no charge time what so ever they never get the extended fights they need.

I loved Wild-Shape and spammed it on PBE. I gave up on it playing ranked. They're useless if you dont Itemstack them. If you do Nida/Shyv/Gnar and especially Swain can singlehandedly win you fights.

But theres is simply no reason to run 2 more other than the one you stacked! 60% HP?.. To do what.. exactly? They dont help against ASSASSINS! And NIda and Swain enter God-Mode after transforming anyway! Gnar has done everything he needed to on transformation and Shyv fires happy from backline.

Kick the two Shape you dont have stacked and throw in some brawlers. 10 times better!

PhearBunny1 votes

Swain, Shyvana, and Gnar are very strong. 3/3 SS 2/2 Dragon 2/2 guardian.

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