Getting less Items than your opponents is like playing Texas Hold’em with just 1 card on your hand

BigFBear·7/19/2019, 4:50:45 PM·64 votes·13,322 views

TFT and Poker are both games with a certain amount of RNG. In Poker you don't know what cards you're gonna get and in TFT you dont know what champs or items you're gonna get.

You can have luck with good champ- and item-combinations or bad luck whith not getting your tripples or getting the wrong items. This is a healthy amount of RNG.

But getting 0 Items or 1 item while others get 3 items is like playing Texas Holdem with just one card. You have a very low chance to build a Straight, Flush or Full House! And that makes it very unlikely to win.

Get everyone the same amount of items!

33 Comments

General Esdeath 7/19/2019, 7:37:34 PM6 votes

That's actually a pretty good analogy.

You don't know what items (cards) you get, but you at least get them. And some items ( item 3161 item 3026 , Ace, King) are more valuable but you can play around them and strategize.

Sukishoo7/19/2019, 8:43:27 PM4 votes

But getting 0 Items or 1 item while others get 3 items is like playing Texas Holdem with just one card.

I got either gold or a single item in my first few minion rounds and still manage to end within the top 4. You have to learn to play with what is given and make an advantage.

You're never going to win every game but if you play enough and learn what works when you have it, you can get by

Sedos7/19/2019, 5:05:27 PM4 votes

That's nothing, yesterday I had a game where I went nobles and saw no Garen at all until stage 4-3 or so, then I ran into somebody with a 3 star Garen... at the end of the game I had two 1 star Garens. Balanced, lol.

Cameramon7/20/2019, 1:03:36 AM2 votes

This is fundamentally the difference between input randomness (randomness that happens before any decisions can be made and that can allow equal decisions to be made) and output randomness (randomness that simply changes the result of your decision without you having any say in it). Input randomness is a healthy thing, and TFT already has it in champion rolls and what exact item you get. Output randomness is extremely unhealthy, and should never exist. Unfortunately, it seems Riot have actually changed their mind on that for some inexplicable reason, giving us output randomness in TFT, and also not fixing crits output randomness despite promising to do so.

Janakin7/19/2019, 8:29:25 PM2 votes

You can still get a Pair, a 2 Pair, 3 of a kind but no Straight, no Flush no Full House!

How come you can not get Straight? If there is, let's say, 2 7 8 9 10 and you have J, then you have Straight, don't you? How come you can not get Flush? If there is, let's say, Heart, Heart, Heart, Heart, Spades and you have Heart, then you have Flush, don't you? How come you can not get Full House? If there is, let's say, A A K K 10 and you have A, then you have Full House, don't you?

I am strongly against that variable number of items shit but this sentence just surprised me :D.

Nea1047/19/2019, 11:32:35 PM2 votes

Nearly almost every card game is based upon the same general system. TFT is a card game, so you can't play it blindfolded, of course, but the RNG component will always be relevant. At the moment it's just too relevant, and I bet (pun intended) that they won't change it much.

J Epstein7/20/2019, 2:58:35 AM2 votes

I've wanted to make a post about this for awhile now, but figured I make enough rant posts that I never did.

Also consider how unfair it would be if some people were allowed to pick 2-4 champs/ items during carousel while some got 0-1. Doesn't sound fair does it? so why is it ok for item drop numbers? it's not.

Busty Demon7/20/2019, 7:00:05 AM2 votes

I don't care about item RNG. I care about number of items distribution. Don't give me one gold while others get 4 items completed. That's all i need.

Kala MNK7/20/2019, 6:19:13 AM1 votes

I don't play Dota at all. But after looking at TFT I've checked Dota underlords and it's way better. You can ever play it on smartphones. I like lol over Dota, but on this auto chess mode, I wouldn't touch TFT.

Wrathberry7/21/2019, 2:18:07 PM1 votes

Or give us at least a min amount of items.

The first 3 rounds give between 0 and 7 items. The rng there is just way too high.

Hive at least 1 item per neutral wave with the chance of more.. That would feel much better..

Barkley7/20/2019, 8:00:53 AM1 votes

The fact this doesn't have 100 more upvotes is disappointing.

MaskedMadness7/20/2019, 12:59:23 AM1 votes

i have a post about how TFT is mainly RNG rather then actual skill. in the comments i make the poker comparision that in poker even though you could have a bad hand, you can mind game to make people believe you have a good one

in tft if you get a bad hand you literally have no way around it like poker

FF20 Marshmallow7/20/2019, 8:05:41 PM1 votes

And that's why i don't buy into that whole autochess hype. It's literally just a card game but with champions and i get a lot of hate from people who only play TFT whenever i say so.