How Do You Beat Summoners?

Stephenizgod·Nov 11, 2019·2 votes·1,322 views

Seems like the strat is to roll for 3 star Malzahar and then sit back and win the game. I have not found a comp capable of out DPSing how many voidlings he can spawn. Then you add Yorick and Annie and there are too many targets on the field which makes it impossible to kill their actual units. Azir nukes back lines for no apparent reason even with no items. But the main issue is Malzahar, he covers the entire field within seconds and its impossible to kill them faster than he can spawn them. At least that is how it seems to me, i have tried a few different comps but nothing seems to kill them fast enough before him and Yorick swarm the field. Even if you kill their units, their spawns deal damage to you so if they have only 1 unit left you take damage as if 3-4 units were left. Which late game means 20+ hp damage for barely losing.

Obviously there has to be a way of beating them that I am missing, I just can't figure it out.

17 Comments

IllabetheNov 11, 20193 votes

Anything with aoe deletion.

Mages Berserkers Predators Electric

All of the above can both tank and destroy minions faster than spawned.

Assassins can kill a Summoner before it even casts.

StephenizgodNov 11, 20191 votes

I've had 0 success with mages against summoners personally but it also always seems like 3 people are going mage whenever I try to go mage. Berserkers do pretty good if i can get Olaf but he is one of the most contested units it seems. Predators were the most success i've had but it seems once you hit level 8-9 they can't do enough damage. Electric relies on getting Lux because Ornn Voli and Zed definitely do not hold up to level 3 Malz. I have tried that one thinking the AoE would melt the summons, but it didn't do nearly enough damage.

So far the only comp i can beat them with is Desert, Blademaster, Shadow, Cloud, Mystic. But it is so highly dependent on getting Yi 2 with good items and possibly a Cloud lux.

IllabetheNov 11, 20191 votes

Voli + Zed can 1 shot minions and their casters.

Put Thornmail, Red Buff, and GA on Zed. Watch him clone 4-5 times and solo the entire team.

3 Star Blademaster Veigar on a mage team literally deletes 2 champs per cast.

StephenizgodNov 12, 20191 votes

Veigar is a dumb champion lol put Gunblade on him and he is immortal.

Lee KeburnNov 11, 20193 votes

I agree Summoners is an issue. I just played as a summoner team and the only match I lost was before I had 3. After that, i won 22 straight matches with a final health of 94. I have yet to create a team that can destroy summoners.

SomeLinkNov 11, 20192 votes

Glacial beserkers with life steal olaf.

Just Neeko StuffNov 11, 20192 votes

Poison because it hasnt been nerfed and is way to strong kills olaf instantly as well even with guisanas blood thirster

MagicFlyingLlamaNov 11, 20191 votes

I have had some amusing success running light+berserker or light+ranger (a fallback), put a couple shojin on jax and watch as he tanks the whole team plus voidlings without ever losing HP. Funny as hell.

Sire HippingtonNov 11, 20191 votes

heavy aoe, though there isn't that much of it in the game.

Things i have beaten summoners with so far:

Fed brand
2star morello singed
3star mundo
fed sivir
mage lux
fed nocturn

so you need a consistent high aoe damage with near perfect gear...

All in all summoners, especially the combination of yorik and malzahar, are disgusting and only loose to even more absurd things...

P.S. summoned units don't deal damage post fight(the damage dealt to your little legend on a lost round), despite the visuals looking like it

StephenizgodNov 12, 20191 votes

Summoned units will deal damage if their summoner is dead as if they were still alive. At least that is what it says in the Patch Notes and in my games.

Sire HippingtonNov 12, 20191 votes

that's for in-fight(even if annie dies, tibers will still keep fighting), not for the damage you(your little legend) take at the end of a lost round.

if only summons are alive, it still counts as a win and does damage, but only the base damage that s based on what stage the game is. Doesn't matter if 1 voidling or 20 survive, the end of round damage isn't affected by the number of summons.

StephenizgodNov 12, 20191 votes

Yes that is what i said. They will deal damage to you as if their summoner is still alive. So if you have Annie Malz and Yorick, they all die and only their minion survive and win them the round, you take damage as if Annie Malz and Yorick were still alive. Which is BS in my opinion since it basically means you need to win against Summoners more than you need to win against other comps since you take way more damage against them even if you barely lose.

forrestoNov 12, 20191 votes

I had a 3 star malz with spear of shojin on ocean map. Thought I was invincible. the last person in the game absolutely wrecked me with a max lifesteal olaf

StephenizgodNov 12, 20191 votes

Olaf and Seraphs BT Kha are the only units that i've been successful with. Issue Olaf is super contested because he is busted and Kha requires perfect items.

forrestoNov 12, 20191 votes

the upside is that s ppl get eliminated their olafs will go back into the pool so you just have to wait them out

BrolandoNov 12, 20191 votes

AoE, poison seems pretty good because it delays summons, Olaf can probably do it too since he's busted enough to solo several champions by himself.

Maybe Twitch? I guess he counts as AoE and he is poison.

Infernal + Mages with Brand carry might work really well too considering the infernal hexes would in theory delete summons unless it's Tibbers.