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Glacial is busted, needs small nerfs

Stephenizgod·7/23/2019, 9:01:13 PM·8 votes·5,397 views

How is Glacial not the most busted thing? Sej and Voli alone are two incredibly strong units (Voli being one of the best units in the game), but Glacial buff is stupid OP. It is not very fun losing because 3-4 of your units are perma-stunned the entire round. Sej + Voli + Ashe is seriously frustrating because even if your backline doesn't get stunned by Glacial, Ashe is constantly bombarding it with her ults. Plus Glacial has really tanky units and good synergies with Guardian, Knight, and Brawler all of which make them ridiculously hard to kill. 3 item Voli not only melts most units but is super tanky and he has Glacial buff.

I don't think Glacial needs to be changed all that much to make it less over-powered tbh. I think if there was a small Cooldown before a unit could be frozen again it would solve them being the most frustrating class to fight against. Alternatively you could change Glacial away from stunning and into lower Attack Speed, but I'm not sure if that would make them useless or not.

EDIT: Or the 4 Glacial option could be removed and just have it go from 3 to 6 like some of the other classes.

12 Comments

Louie Kaboom7/23/2019, 9:11:01 PM9 votes

it is truly a horrific comp to lose to. I'd rather get insta-smashed by 6 assassins then watching my champs get perma frozen/stunned and eliminated.

ShadWooo7/23/2019, 9:36:09 PM2 votes

Glacials were nuisance before. Now when Volibear and his spell interaction with onhits has been found you can bet at least two players will abuse this freelo in your game. If you aren't stupid you are abusing it too.

Bregan7/24/2019, 3:47:41 AM2 votes

  1. ashe's ability needs to not increase duration with distance, especially since "base duration" is melee range, and not her attack range.

  2. on hit stuns need to not overlap/stack. the stun must wear off before it can be reapplied again.

  3. ability stuns can be added to on hit stuns, but on hit stuns can not be added to ability stuns. if ashe or sej stun somebody with their ability, the target can not be stunned by the on hit effect until the ability stun has gone its full duration.

  4. you need to spread out your units

  5. if they still need further tuning, reduce the on hit stun by .25 to .5 seconds.

boom. glacial is fixed.

hrooza dota 7/24/2019, 8:50:58 AM2 votes

glaciel dont have really tanky units, its brawlers that make things tanky while glaciel is the side buff for 4 brawlers

tho i think glaciel should be changed to 10 > 25 > 50 % from 20 > 30 > 45 % so at least using glaciel as a side buff is not effective while using it as your main buff [aka going 6 glac] would be more rewording.

also revert voli buffs [and smack akali as will]

Toolmaker7/24/2019, 11:04:44 AM1 votes

Yeah, it's really annoying. So many times I have seen 2 glacials stun units to death.