Dagger of time: new defensive item for ADs

redfeenix··2 votes·307 views

Hey guys,

I've been thinking as an AD how I can't counterplay quick burst assassins like rengar , Leblanc, or even zed. Their dmg happens in the blink of an eye and heal can't really counter them. If they are fed I'll die quick before I can react and supports cant do much vs that huge insta burst.

So I thought about the perfect item that could help me survive for 1 extra second: hourglass! This would allow me team to hopefully position and peel the assassins / divers. However only currently APs can build hourglass, I think it would be useful for ADs as well

Dagger of time: item 1038 + (item 1033 + item 1036 + item 1033 )

Comparison to zonyas: item 1058 + (item 1029 + item 1052 + item 1029 )

So lemme know what you guys think. Is this item too OP for ADs?? Or is it a good for counterplay vs assassins.

15 Comments

Vistha Kai3 votes

Not before APs get Bulletdrinker, that completely nullifies every single AD damage dealer's burst for only 1300 gold.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Not every items needs a counter-part for a similar stat.

  • Not every MR item needs a counterpart with armor.
  • Not every AP item needs a counterpart with AD.

People have been suggesting that an item like this be made since Zhonya's was created years ago. It was not, and is still not, a good idea.

redfeenix1 votes

Right but this isn't about balancing the tree just for the sake of. Stasis is a powerful effect on squishy mages when they get jumped. Squishy ads could also use some help dealing with assassins.

If you dont think giving ADs stasis is healthy, what else might help them vs. burst assassins?

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

item 3026 item 3139 item 3072 item 3156 item 3053 item 3143 item 3742

All useful options whose value depends on the type of opponent you are against and who is threatening you.

redfeenix1 votes

I e never bought dead man's on ADs... when would you buy that over a randuins

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

When referring to squishy AD champions, I include both melee and ranged champions.

Deadman's Plate is strong on fighters and melee-assassins (i.e. Kha'zix and Talon) since it provides mobility to reach their target and roam, damage to burst them down and enough bulk to survive fights.

ff4sk2 votes

AD Already have Maw and hexdrinker plus the benefit of being able to kite and fight from range. You can't have everything mate, I mean you deal more sustained manaless damage than mages, you can kite and shred tanks before they get to you as well as any bruiser/assassin with no gap closer, what more could you possibly ask for?

redfeenix1 votes

Something to do when rengar / zed ults. Maybe i'm just looking for a buff to barrier?

ff4sk2 votes

So become strong vs every class with no weaknesses?

balbraaksel2 votes

The reason ADC's don't have stasis on an item is because the support is supposed to protect the ADC. There are champion picks that can make it very difficult for a Rengar to assassinate, if you didn't counterpick the Rengar you can always have the support carry a pink ward and stay with your team grouped up.

Marshbouy1 votes

no. it would be too op and would limit item diversity. also, zhonyas changed.

Sona Ping1 votes

...You realize this is going to be a Zhonya's for Rengar and Zed, right?

redfeenix1 votes

O god lmao...... limit to ranged champs only ? Like hurricane . Good catch

Chaos6891 votes

LB, yes. Zed, yes. Rengar? No. Jesus, jsut buy one of the 5billion items MADE to kill him! How about a GA? How about A TEAM? A tank? CC?

redfeenix1 votes

Whoa that's a lot of down votes :(

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