Can we get Katarina's dad

Skorch··6 votes·804 views

I feel like Katarina's dad would be such a cool champ to have. Since in the lore from my understanding he disappeared not died.

Maybe in a mini Noxus vs Demacia themed event.

That and i just enjoy the lore around the Noxus champions a lot.

All of his taunts toward Katarina could be either "This is how you assassinate" or nothing but dad jokes.

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CobaltTheMadMage2 votes

Maybe he could be that "Noxian Drill Sergeant" champ people have been wanting.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

nahhh, he's a longsword wielding master assassin. (General Du Couteau) I just know.,.. Ok? I've talked with the guy... Okay? He's my dad after all. Okay?

CobaltTheMadMage3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-10-20T21:21:49.859+0000)

nahhh, he's a longsword wielding master assassin. (General Du Couteau) I just know.,.. Ok? I've talked with the guy... Okay? He's my dad after all. Okay?

Longswords don't strike me as very assassin-y. Too big to conceal, too cumbersome to use discreetly, too heavy to wield quickly, and too obvious to give the impression that your victim died of anything other than "violent end enforced by a man with a longsword".

Assassination is about more than just killing people; it's about doing it quickly and quietly, particularly while avoiding notice both while entering and leaving the scene. A good assassin leaves no trace of his presence but a corpse and a bloodstain, a great assassin doesn't even leave a bloodstain, and the best assassins make it look blatantly obvious that the victim committed suicide, had a plausible accident, died of natural causes or health complications, or perhaps were just murdered by someone else entirely who had every good reason to commit the deed and absolutely no alibi to place him anywhere other than the scene of the crime at the time it was committed.

Point is, longswords are not discreet, and a "master assassin" by definition can never afford to be not discreet. Granted, that wouldn't stop him from using a longsword for normal day-to-day broad daylight self-defense since defending yourself with well-honed assassination techniques would raise eyebrows (and I suppose it would deflect suspicion of someone was well enough known for their traditional swordplay that they wouldn't be at the top of a list of suspects for murder by tiny knives and strangulation), but you can't say with a straight face that this "master assassin" brings a longsword to his night job. Especially not if you try to argue that he can because he's "just that good" as if this were the same as Jax being able to kill a man with a broken lamp-post because that's not how any of this works.

Also: has anyone ever told you your apparent inability to draw the line between in-character and out-of-character is very disturbing?

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

TL;DR

He uses a longsword, because he's a master of the blade, the longsword is used in dueling, he actually has a whole belt of small knives, like Kata's which he uses for long distance assassination, on one of his boots he carries a hidden dagger which he uses for the actual assassination, because General Du Couteau as one, is not like a grandmaster of assassination, but in the art of blade dancing and sword to sword dueling, that's why his combat abilities are superior to Katarina's or Talon, because he has combat abilities they never had the chance to master. HE's MY DADDY ?OKAY? I KNOW STUFF...

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-20T23:14:00.153+0000)

TL;DR

He uses a longsword, because he's a master of the blade, the longsword is used in dueling, he actually has a whole belt of small knives, like Kata's which he uses for long distance assassination, on one of his boots he carries a hidden dagger which he uses for the actual assassination, because General Du Couteau as one, is not like a grandmaster of assassination, but in the art of blade dancing and sword to sword dueling, that's why his combat abilities are superior to Katarina's or Talon, because he has combat abilities they never had the chance to master. HE's MY DADDY ?OKAY? I KNOW STUFF...

TL;DR version was "You seem to misunderstand what 'assassination' is; it's not something you do with a longsword."

Having said that, a longsword would theoretically fit a high-ranking Noxian general, but it wouldn't be the thing the greatest assassin in Noxus (yes he has been described as such in official lore) would bring to an assassination mission.

Also would you kindly give your readers some reassurance that you are aware that you- as in the person behind the screen typing out all these messages- are not actually Katarina DuCouteau of Noxus? Your seamless intertwining if in-character and out-of-character chat is beginning to get disturbing.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I aware you, even if I was actually Katarina Du Douteau, daughter of General Du Couteau, the greatest assassin in the world. I wouldn't confirm it, even if the way of speech is similar and use "Me" or "I" terms of speech, while speaking about the face Katarina Du Couteau of Noxus.

Plus side, the fact I have similar personality as the one we speak, doesn't proof that I am or am not the person we speak of as well.

Plus side yet again. Have you played assassins creed? By a longsword I mean a one handed sword that's a bit longer than the classic short sword, not a greatsword, which is used in both hands and weights a lot... I know my blades and I asure you, that when I say longsword, I know what I am talking about.

Going to refer with ingame weapons to make my point.

Yi, Trynda sized weapons are considered greatswords, Yasuo type weapon is considered Katana, which is longer than a long sword and nearly same size as greatsword but lighter and sharper.

Miss Du Couteau is using short swords which are often mistaken as daggers, the daggers/knives is this on her belts. A long sword is basically Miss Du Couteau's sword and a half, which is perfectly fine for an assassin, as the longsword is the most balanced and agile of all types of swords, except the rapier/epee, which are light weighted and used for very fast combat, but they fall in category short swords anyway.

As I said, I'm a blades nerd. I know my blades. So yes, longsword fits the greatest swordmaster, bladedancer, assassin of Runeterra perfectly, especially with his elegant and intelligent combat style.

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-22T23:33:27.085+0000)

I aware you, even if I was actually Katarina Du Douteau, daughter of General Du Couteau, the greatest assassin in the world. I wouldn't confirm it, even if the way of speech is similar and use "Me" or "I" terms of speech, while speaking about the face Katarina Du Couteau of Noxus.

Plus side, the fact I have similar personality as the one we speak, doesn't proof that I am or am not the person we speak of as well.

Plus side yet again. Have you played assassins creed? By a longsword I mean a one handed sword that's a bit longer than the classic short sword, not a greatsword, which is used in both hands and weights a lot... I know my blades and I asure you, that when I say longsword, I know what I am talking about.

Going to refer with ingame weapons to make my point.

Yi, Trynda sized weapons are considered greatswords, Yasuo type weapon is considered Katana, which is longer than a long sword and nearly same size as greatsword but lighter and sharper.

Miss Du Couteau is using short swords which are often mistaken as daggers, the daggers/knives is this on her belts. A long sword is basically Miss Du Couteau's sword and a half, which is perfectly fine for an assassin, as the longsword is the most balanced and agile of all types of swords, except the rapier/epee, which are light weighted and used for very fast combat, but they fall in category short swords anyway.

As I said, I'm a blades nerd. I know my blades. So yes, longsword fits the greatest swordmaster, bladedancer, assassin of Runeterra perfectly, especially with his elegant and intelligent combat style.

Please do not insist there exists even a possibility you could be Katarina in the very place I could contact her creator to prove you wrong. There's a time and place for everything, and that place is the Roleplay forums and nowhere else.

I had a feeling you would bring up Assassin's Creed eventually, which is funny because a friend of mine who has a college degree in history often jokes about how bad an assassin the main characters in those games tend to be given how many bodies other than your target you leave behind. The point of a good assassin is that only the person or persons of interest die, and nobody knows who killed them, if they can even tell they didn't just commit suicide or have an accident. If you need to bring a weapon like a longsword to that kind of job, you are clearly not very good at doing that.

But all of this is a bit of a moot point since as others may have mentioned General Marcus DuCouteau's last known status was "missing and presumed dead", and I don't think Riot has brought back someone who had died as part of someone's backstory before; I know there are characters who are or were dead as part of their backstory, but most if not all of them were introduced as such from the beginning rather than having been part of another character's background and then later introduced as a champion themselves.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

First off, the creators cannot proof anything, about anyone in reality. Secondly I didn't mean the assassin creed as corpse numbers, but as gear and the sword Altair uses, which is a class of longsword. Thirdly, General Du Couteau isn't really an assassin in his job, but a Generral and a Swordsman, so his main tool drops to a sword unlike his daughter dual short swords....

Arguing with me on any of these points, is just a way to make break out of my good Kitty behavior and become my champion in terms of being pissed of and then I really act too drastically close to her... So if you got nothing else that will be a proper conversation instead of throwing remarks of how low my intelligence is, just avoid talking to me from this point onwards. Have a nice day and don't let a knife stab you on the way out :]

Edit. Maybe I am not as rich as people think I am to have my whole wall with special made swords as decorations, but I really am a blade fanatic and I love blades, all types of swords, daggers and knives... SO if you state that this is role play worth, then you're the one with the issue.

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T08:31:20.792+0000)

First off, the creators cannot proof anything, about anyone in reality. Secondly I didn't mean the assassin creed as corpse numbers, but as gear and the sword Altair uses, which is a class of longsword. Thirdly, General Du Couteau isn't really an assassin in his job, but a Generral and a Swordsman, so his main tool drops to a sword unlike his daughter dual short swords....

Arguing with me on any of these points, is just a way to make break out of my good Kitty behavior and become my champion in terms of being pissed of and then I really act too drastically close to her... So if you got nothing else that will be a proper conversation instead of throwing remarks of how low my intelligence is, just avoid talking to me from this point onwards. Have a nice day and don't let a knife stab you on the way out :]

Edit. Maybe I am not as rich as people think I am to have my whole wall with special made swords as decorations, but I really am a blade fanatic and I love blades, all types of swords, daggers and knives... SO if you state that this is role play worth, then you're the one with the issue.

So you're saying the person of whose imagination Katarina was a product has no say in the fact that their own creation cannot and does not actually exist in real life and consequently cannot be a member of the League of Legends playerbase let alone a member of their fan forums? Because to suggest otherwise would imply an unhealthy delusion for which one may wish to seek medical attention. Be you for crying out loud, not some homicidal psychopath from a fictional universe. And if you don't know who "you" are if not that, then I suggest taking some time off from League to figure that out.

And my point was that anyone who actually studies assassination throughout the years could tell you that calling some of the things Altair does "assasination" had best not be done with a straight face. Assassination is all about stealth, discretion, concealed weaponry, and most often subtlety and disguise. Longswords are very bad for that line of work, regardless of what video games may tell you.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I have a visually appearing and attitude copy of the same person as Katarina in my head from 20 years ago, simply because nobody either believes or I don't openly preach it 24/7, doesn't mean it aint true. Same time, every fiction char. and legend is based on a real person to start with, plus on a planet with over 7 billion people, do you really think this is an impossibility? Next point, this isn't a "fan forum" this is the MAIN League of Legends forum, which on theory has millions of people, as the game itself, which adds to my point that it's completely possible.

Yeah I got a shrink, to speak about my mental health and I have one of the most stable mentalities, I just chose to believe and see the word differently than the rest ,which often ends up with me appearing, either as insane, or different, or even a villain in their own stories of life.

Plus next point. I never claimed to be anyone, I claim I got similar personality, which is true fact... I simply said , I might, or might NOT be the person we speak of. And I said, even if I WAS, or WASNT, I don't see how that is any of your personal concern, both cases I wont like the way you speak to me.

Next point. So simply because a character in a game is using all sorts of blades and love blades, it makes me crazy, for loving and enjoying different types of blades? Sorry to say it, but there are lots of people in the world you live in which, either make, or collect or simply love blade weapons like swords, daggers, knives ect ect.

Plus. I doubt your friend would study assassination and openly speak of it. Yet it's not even a profession to study assassinations, or how to be an assassin yourself. Giving the fact that over the years assassination changes and even a most common farmer has done assassinations in history with different type of items, without having any education on the point. Clearly you got no idea of such stuff, but there has been assassinations in history by any type... Poison, pinch forks, swords, knives, fire, hanging, beating to death, breaking part of the body... So you cannot come here and claim that you cannot assassinate someone with a longsword... One of the most weird assassinations in past 50 years was caused by an umbrella which had a rare and powerful toxic on the edge, which pined a Bulgarian journalist, who died days later in a location which none knew and it was considered a hearth dieses until they found that small piece of nearly untraceable toxin.

So my friend, don't come here claiming stuff which you got no idea off. Assassination as an action itself can be done by any means, by anyone as long as the specific target is dead and in the majority of cases the killer is unknown. So get out of your video game world, where assassins just sneak in the shadows and go carefully and stab someone in the back with a dagger, this isn't Skyrim.

Oh forgot to mention, remember that president that got assassinated? Who isn't even my job to know his name, or even the fact that he got assassinated, giving the fact I live in the other end of the world? Yeah, that guy got assassinated by a BULLET, a sniper BULLET... Which isn't a blade as you claim it should be done.

Have a nice evening and do please avoid arguing over stuff you are not well educated enough. Thank you my friend for the long conversation, I truly enjoy when I spent my time writing such long explanations for a single person, which will be forgotten in few hours most likely and never see the light of day again.

Love, the unknown person behind the keyboard, writing this letter to you, who may or may not be the actual redhead of whom was referred earlier.

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T19:04:53.478+0000)

I have a visually appearing and attitude copy of the same person as Katarina in my head from 20 years ago, simply because nobody either believes or I don't openly preach it 24/7, doesn't mean it aint true. Same time, every fiction char. and legend is based on a real person to start with, plus on a planet with over 7 billion people, do you really think this is an impossibility? Next point, this isn't a "fan forum" this is the MAIN League of Legends forum, which on theory has millions of people, as the game itself, which adds to my point that it's completely possible.

Yeah I got a shrink, to speak about my mental health and I have one of the most stable mentalities, I just chose to believe and see the word differently than the rest ,which often ends up with me appearing, either as insane, or different, or even a villain in their own stories of life.

Plus next point. I never claimed to be anyone, I claim I got similar personality, which is true fact... I simply said , I might, or might NOT be the person we speak of. And I said, even if I WAS, or WASNT, I don't see how that is any of your personal concern, both cases I wont like the way you speak to me.

Next point. So simply because a character in a game is using all sorts of blades and love blades, it makes me crazy, for loving and enjoying different types of blades? Sorry to say it, but there are lots of people in the world you live in which, either make, or collect or simply love blade weapons like swords, daggers, knives ect ect.

Plus. I doubt your friend would study assassination and openly speak of it. Yet it's not even a profession to study assassinations, or how to be an assassin yourself. Giving the fact that over the years assassination changes and even a most common farmer has done assassinations in history with different type of items, without having any education on the point. Clearly you got no idea of such stuff, but there has been assassinations in history by any type... Poison, pinch forks, swords, knives, fire, hanging, beating to death, breaking part of the body... So you cannot come here and claim that you cannot assassinate someone with a longsword... One of the most weird assassinations in past 50 years was caused by an umbrella which had a rare and powerful toxic on the edge, which pined a Bulgarian journalist, who died days later in a location which none knew and it was considered a hearth dieses until they found that small piece of nearly untraceable toxin.

So my friend, don't come here claiming stuff which you got no idea off. Assassination as an action itself can be done by any means, by anyone as long as the specific target is dead and in the majority of cases the killer is unknown. So get out of your video game world, where assassins just sneak in the shadows and go carefully and stab someone in the back with a dagger, this isn't Skyrim.

Oh forgot to mention, remember that president that got assassinated? Who isn't even my job to know his name, or even the fact that he got assassinated, giving the fact I live in the other end of the world? Yeah, that guy got assassinated by a BULLET, a sniper BULLET... Which isn't a blade as you claim it should be done.

Have a nice evening and do please avoid arguing over stuff you are not well educated enough. Thank you my friend for the long conversation, I truly enjoy when I spent my time writing such long explanations for a single person, which will be forgotten in few hours most likely and never see the light of day again.

Love, the unknown person behind the keyboard, writing this letter to you, who may or may not be the actual redhead of whom was referred earlier.

The notion that all fictional characters are based on real individuals is false and/or exaggerated; some myths and legends might have been inspired by real people, but plenty of people (myself included) just make characters up off-the-cuff from common personality traits or archetypes not particularly with any specific individuals, or sometimes base them on other known-to-be fictional characters. The odds that someone at Riot had you in mind when they made Katarina Du Couteau, and I think it's safe to surmise there was a time where you existed and were not aware of League of Legends or Katarina in particular.

I'm not calling you crazy for liking blades and the like (lots of my friends do), I'm calling you crazy for acting like that's enough to put a "may" in "may or may not be Katarina", stating your headcanons and theories as if League canon fact, and repeatedly making statements in-character as Katarina (like "He [General DuCoteau] is my Dad") without indicating any separation of character knowledge. League of Legends started in 2009, and from what I've seen it's safe to assume you are much older than 7 years old, so clearly you were around before Katarina was and aren't currently living in Noxus (in fact your username tag says you're from Europe).

And you still haven't paid any attention to a thing I said about assassination: I never said it had to be done with blades, I said it had to be done discreetly, and professionals in particular more so. This means that a dagger, hidden blade, garotte, poison, bare hands, or other such concealable weapon will trump a longsword designed for open man-to-man combat in a close-range assassination, long-range weaponry such as sniper rifles or timed explosives can do the job just fine because they get around the lack of concealability by eliminating the need for presence.

Basically, assassination is all about nobody seeing you do it, meaning either you get close without drawing attention (which my point was a longsword is too conspicuous for that and would be a poor choice for someone who is repeatedly described as "the greatest assassin in Noxus") or you kill from afar where nobody can see you. Theoretically you can assassinate someone with a longsword under ideal circumstances, but a "Master Assassin" would not settle for something so crude and inefficient.

And yes, you'd be amazed what people are allowed to talk openly about in America. I had a buddy who was a living encyclopedia on anything historical, including but not limited to weapons and prominent murders of bygone days. It wasn't even required for his degree, he just had an eiditic memory and lots of questions he wouldn't leave unanswered. If it was in a fictionalized medieval setting, he wanted to know how plausible it was and how different the real thing was from the fake versions, and he just didn't stop until he could recite from memory everything he learned.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Excuse ser. I clearly don't understand one thing... Katarina exists in LoL from 8 not 7 years and how didn't you notice the part is that I basically have her in my head from 21 years, which means she's there since I'm 1 or, basically my last memory is since I was 1, if not 1-2 months younger. I wasn't able to know the numbers at that age, but I know my first birthday was getting ready in such a time.

I don't assume the part of loving blades to be the may may, argument. The may may argument is clearly what you don't see in my attitude, my arrogance is most noticeable, then is my stubbornness, my loyalty not so appealing and that feeling of justice, which nobody notices neither in her nor me, is there aswell. The feeling of failing and needing to fix that fail is a similar trait as well... I got lot more in common with her than you think, but yet again... It's May be or May not be and I never stated someone is based on me, I just claim maybe it's coincidence, but it could be fate.

And before you jump on me, for the 21 years ago having memory of her, it was explained by my shrink before he clearly stated that I waste my time there... and yes I did inform him that I see her as a gaming char from 8 years now, which is 13 years later of my first memory of her... as I was saying he said that it's normal, because my mind was working a bit faster than the usual at my young age and it could manage to construct a figure of my future and then there was other complicated terms which I never gave time to remember or understand completely, but basically I clearly got a small bound with this char. which a majority of the human race cannot understand. My shrink claimed it's love, which is pretty impossible, but same time it's pretty normal.

So... Maybe there's a reason for my small bond with her, maybe there isn't... I always excuse it with me being insane, but I'm clinically proclaimed as sane, even with that minor insanity in my list. And I never said that he uses a long sword to perform assassinations, giving the fact it's not as heavy as a great sword and depending on the metal it's forget, a long sword could be pretty light and just carried for just in case battles, same time the assassinations process to be caused, by a pretty different means, like poisoning the dinner, or shooting a bow, or plain dagger kill.

Oh and the tag next to my name is where the account is made, otherwise the similarities of my country and Noxus are pretty huge. Especially the fact that my country is one of the oldest if not the oldest in Europe, just like Noxus :)))

So as I said, believe me if you want, or don't... maybe I am, maybe I'm not. Nobody knows who's really behind the keyboard. far as you know you might be talking to the actual Katarina, but same time you might be talking to Brat Pitt. The charm of the internet. I get to be myself and people never know if I'm serious or not :p

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-24T00:03:18.799+0000)

Excuse ser. I clearly don't understand one thing... Katarina exists in LoL from 8 not 7 years and how didn't you notice the part is that I basically have her in my head from 21 years, which means she's there since I'm 1 or, basically my last memory is since I was 1, if not 1-2 months younger. I wasn't able to know the numbers at that age, but I know my first birthday was getting ready in such a time.

I don't assume the part of loving blades to be the may may, argument. The may may argument is clearly what you don't see in my attitude, my arrogance is most noticeable, then is my stubbornness, my loyalty not so appealing and that feeling of justice, which nobody notices neither in her nor me, is there aswell. The feeling of failing and needing to fix that fail is a similar trait as well... I got lot more in common with her than you think, but yet again... It's May be or May not be and I never stated someone is based on me, I just claim maybe it's coincidence, but it could be fate.

And before you jump on me, for the 21 years ago having memory of her, it was explained by my shrink before he clearly stated that I waste my time there... and yes I did inform him that I see her as a gaming char from 8 years now, which is 13 years later of my first memory of her... as I was saying he said that it's normal, because my mind was working a bit faster than the usual at my young age and it could manage to construct a figure of my future and then there was other complicated terms which I never gave time to remember or understand completely, but basically I clearly got a small bound with this char. which a majority of the human race cannot understand. My shrink claimed it's love, which is pretty impossible, but same time it's pretty normal.

So... Maybe there's a reason for my small bond with her, maybe there isn't... I always excuse it with me being insane, but I'm clinically proclaimed as sane, even with that minor insanity in my list. And I never said that he uses a long sword to perform assassinations, giving the fact it's not as heavy as a great sword and depending on the metal it's forget, a long sword could be pretty light and just carried for just in case battles, same time the assassinations process to be caused, by a pretty different means, like poisoning the dinner, or shooting a bow, or plain dagger kill.

Oh and the tag next to my name is where the account is made, otherwise the similarities of my country and Noxus are pretty huge. Especially the fact that my country is one of the oldest if not the oldest in Europe, just like Noxus :)))

So as I said, believe me if you want, or don't... maybe I am, maybe I'm not. Nobody knows who's really behind the keyboard. far as you know you might be talking to the actual Katarina, but same time you might be talking to Brat Pitt. The charm of the internet. I get to be myself and people never know if I'm serious or not :p

Ok now I'm beginning to see the bigger picture here. For what it's worth I've had similar gaming premonitions before (indirectly foresaw Knuckles the Echidna and Shadow the Hedgehog getting their own games, Mega Man Star Force 3 having Omega-Xis cards, League of Legends getting a figures-based tabletop game, and probably others that I just forgot about) but I would still say be careful about letting these visions consume you like that. Plus as one who likes creating characters for stories and games and the like, I would be highly disturbed if I heard of a person going around and insisting they were one of my characters (though I would be impressed and somewhat frustrated to hear they had 'foreseen' one of my designs) when I clearly had not been thinking of them or even known of them at any time during the creative process.

On the other hand, though, one of the complaints I have heard about Katarina is that her design is extremely generic, and I am somewhat in agreement with that notion. I feel like I've seen designs similar to hers before, either whole or in bits and pieces, in another game, be it a video game, an iconic MMO character, an example tabletop RPG character, or just someone's OC from the many forums and art pages I visited through my years. It could very well be that your idea for the character and Riot's design (tried to single out who would be considered her "creator" but it was on a team so I'm not fully sure who) were purely coincidental. The personality similarities you mentioned also seem like they could be just you projecting yourself into her as most of the traits you said you have in common are either fairly generic (i.e. there are enough people in the world that it shouldn't be strange for more than one person to share those same traits) or that aren't particularly prominent in the character as depicted in canon (you mentioned Katarina has a sense of justice that "nobody notices", and I suspect there may be a reason for that).

Having said that, there's nothing inherently wrong with finding or having a lot in common with fictional characters- I and a few of my friends all have someone from a show or a game that we joke about being dead-ringers to- the problem only arises when you "cross the streams" and start genuinely confusing the fantasy with the reality to the degree that it's no longer joking. You can go RP as Katarina all you want, just don't forget how to take off the mask is all.

And finally I probably could find out who you are over the Internet because there is always someone who knows and always ways to find out such things, but I'm not gonna because even though I know how, I'm too lazy to bother and actually doing that would be rude and creepy and at least partially illegal.

But yeah, I've been dragging this out much longer than it had to be. Sorry for wasting your time and mine, you go have fun doing your thing, just... don't hurt yourself, ok? I would feel bad knowing someone I spent this much time talking to actually had a breakdown or something.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Excuse me thing... I don't actually plan on hurting myself over the words of someone on the internet claiming he's a hacker and can hack me and know all, about me, even if my online information is less than my care towards you :))

And I don't know how the traits as a combination are so common, I never met a person like that and if I had I wouldn't be here at the moment, because I would be enjoying time with such a person, because I truly enjoy the traits... And the basic I still haven't seen anything similar to her design to hers in other games or movies or books or anything to be honest... But if you truly claim the new games that appear and literally copy her with small visual changes is similar design of her towards them, then you got stuff very very wrong... The most similar actually to a game char she has is to Rayne from Blood Rayne and yet the similarity stops at the blades and red hair and that's all...

Tic tac tic tac, a role player in the boards, amused and not the same time... Never mentioned I am playing as anyone, never mentioned that I'm not... Could and could not be... You'll never know even if you do the hacking attempt as you claim you can do... That's why you should never have things on your own name... people can get to you easily. :}}}

Ta ta

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I suggested it few months ago and got -20 downvotes... and he gets upvotes... -.-"

p.s his taunt if Kata (or Talon) is in team should be "Two of the most fearsome assassins of Noxus together, they don't stand a chance"

Skorch1 votes

He could have the best taunts in league if he was added.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

He did appear in my tale! XD

fugertech1 votes

I'm pretty sure Katarina's dad is dead. In Noxus, those who "disappear" are usually gone. For good.

reaperteaser1 votes

only if garen and luxs dad gets to be a champ

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

{quoted}

only if garen and luxs dad gets to be a champ

And now I can picture some interesting lines for that.

reaperteaser2 votes

lux to kat: "my dad can beat up your dad!"

CobaltTheMadMage2 votes

{quoted}

lux to kat: "my dad can beat up your dad!"

"Son, I have been hearing rumors about your 'fights' with a certain Noxian woman... care to explain?"

reaperteaser1 votes

"sit down son, we need to have the talk"

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

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"Son, you shout Demacia and Justice like crazy and yet you are beating a poor lady, what kind of a men are you? A women beater? Leave poor lady Katarina alone already, you were raised better than that."

To which Garen answers with

"But dad, she started it."

And later towards Katarina by Old Crowguard

"Excuse my son miss, I never raised him to be a women beater, I'll punish him propelly when he gets home"

To which she answers

"Hopefully with a sharp object to the head"

Cheers.

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=00030000000000000001,timestamp=2016-10-23T19:07:42.447+0000)

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"Son, you shout Demacia and Justice like crazy and yet you are beating a poor lady, what kind of a men are you? A women beater? Leave poor lady Katarina alone already, you were raised better than that."

To which Garen answers with

"But dad, she started it."

And later towards Katarina by Old Crowguard

"Excuse my son miss, I never raised him to be a women beater, I'll punish him propelly when he gets home"

To which she answers

"Hopefully with a sharp object to the head"

Cheers.

With how long the war has been going between Noxus and Demacia I'm pretty sure they wouldn't consider a Noxian woman on the battlefield any less dangerous than a man, especially with the likes of Evelynn, LeBlanc, and especially Riven being known examples. Plus more recently on the Demacian side, Fiora seems like she's been setting an example for the notion that a woman can be as dangerous as if not more dangerous than any man on the battlefield, and... well Demacia did let Lux go into battle so it would be a strange double-standard if they wouldn't look favorably on attacking a woman if they let their own fight too.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Excuse me sir... Demacians are heroes correct? And the Crowguards are nobles correct? Your theory is incorrect. Hitting a lady no matter what country/side of war, as a "hero" and a "noble" is unacceptable, Mr. Crownguard should beat some manners in his son. ^^

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=0003000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T22:24:39.875+0000)

Excuse me sir... Demacians are heroes correct? And the Crowguards are nobles correct? Your theory is incorrect. Hitting a lady no matter what country/side of war, as a "hero" and a "noble" is unacceptable, Mr. Crownguard should beat some manners in his son. ^^

If a lady's beating me first she ain't no lady, she's a threat and will be treated like one.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Noble blood, attractive, young, female... Yeap... it's a lady. Sorry for that. Your argument is invalid. xD

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ib32Hyq3,comment-id=000300000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T23:45:23.877+0000)

Noble blood, attractive, young, female... Yeap... it's a lady. Sorry for that. Your argument is invalid. xD

Noble blood means she's expected to follow high society's rules on how physical conflict is settled, which means attacking me unprovoked and out of line is going to bring shame and dishonor on her lineage and the "acceptable" alternative i.e. dueling would mean I would be allowed if not expected to fight back. Granted she would probably use her rapier to turn my innards into shish kebab before you can say "Mortal Kombat", but still...

Unless we're talking about Katarina here, in which case Riven's lore seems to imply that while in Noxus your social status is directly tied to your ability to kick a**, everyone is given equal opportunity to try and accept the consequences of success or failure. Basically, nobody in Noxian society is afforded any privileges they can't take for themselves.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I'm talking about Katarina, the only noble woman in Noxus that actually acts like a true noble and politician and a lot more than any other Noxian or Demacian could ever be, so the fact you answered me here means you finally got more than you can chew on the other thread, or you realized I got bored of having to explain myself in front of a complete stranger on the internet, about my mental health or my actual identity? Actually, nevermind... I don't really want to know, I personally plan to go to bed. Have a proper evening.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Nah, the lore was retconned.

Cassiopeia and Katarina never had any parents.

https://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/3cb4ec5f-866a-483d-b47e-3910e0038e76/39a607d9-e05c-4ba2-8d2b-4cb0dbbf8b95.gif

NervPursuit1 votes

doesn't jinx talk about her sister?

Lintu Puck1 votes

He vanished during very tense political issues, and his disappearance helped Swain gain leadership. Of course no one is out right going to say if Papa Assassin is dead or not, but it is highly believed he was taken out by Swain/LeBlanch/The Black Rose because he was a threat to their plans. So why Katarina and Talon do still seek answers to this day, until they find the truth (with the help of Garen and the Demacian forces or not) they are openly going to have to be under the thumb of Granpa Bird Man. >.>

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