Nemesis Draft Fix

The Ecdysiast··1 votes·442 views

First, arrange all champions accordng to role and champion class (Primary and Secondary included).

Second, make Nemesis Draft require role calls.

The first step is to ensure the enemy team can't pick you Taric when you specifically signed up to be a mage midlane. The second goes in line with that, so they every game isn't just picking the enemy a full team of supports.

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Icestar11862 votes

The second goes in line with that, so they every game isn't just picking the enemy a full team of supports.

AP Sona ADC Janna Juggernaut Braum Juggernaut Tahm Kench AP Lulu Juggernaut Taric AP Zilean AP Nami Jungle Leona AD Bruiser Leona AP Thresh ADC Thresh

Give me a support, I can come up with a non-support build for them. Or you can just check Youtube; there's tons of stuff out there.

NiamhNyx1 votes

Then whats the point of it being nemesis draft? If they could only pick champion with a primary role you want it would be pointless.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Well you'll have to pick a primary and secondary. That way you may want a mage, but if you were aiming for MAge/Support you could still get Taric.

NiamhNyx1 votes

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Well you'll have to pick a primary and secondary. That way you may want a mage, but if you were aiming for MAge/Support you could still get Taric.

That takes away the whole point of nemesis draft. You arent supposed to get a champion/role you are good with.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

By that reasoning, there shouldn't be trading and Support mains shouldn't be allowed to play.

The point of nemesis draft should be to have a real match where you picked the enemy's champions, not just supports.

NiamhNyx1 votes

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By that reasoning, there shouldn't be trading and Support mains shouldn't be allowed to play.

The point of nemesis draft should be to have a real match where you picked the enemy's champions, not just supports.

you are failing to understand the point. It does not mean you cant get a champ you a re good at. And who cares if its all supports? Its the enemy trying to give you the worse team, hoping that no one on your team knows how to play the champion they gave you. And no, you took that reasoning the wrong way. Its a game mode based around not getting what you want. If you dont like it, dont play it.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

You just don't get the intention of the mode. It is definitely not meant just to give each other the top 10 worst champions. It's supposed to force people to play outside their comfort zones.

You're under the false impression that an Annie main will be able to play EVERY OTHER MAGE AND SUPPORT exactly as well as Annie, which isn't the case.

Other examples of champions someone might main that would also leave them open to getting picks who play completely differently: Lee Sin, who is a fighter or assassin. You pick that and the enemy might give you Master Yi, who plays and builds completely differently. Or any of the juggernauts, who are considered a subtype of Fighter.

You're misunderstanding the concept as well as the "fun" of the game mode, which is part of the reason they saw so little play of Nemesis Draft and why it hasn't been seen in the rotating featured mode list.

NiamhNyx2 votes

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You just don't get the intention of the mode. It is definitely not meant just to give each other the top 10 worst champions. It's supposed to force people to play outside their comfort zones.

You're under the false impression that an Annie main will be able to play EVERY OTHER MAGE exactly as well as Annie, which isn't true.

first im not under that impression at all. Dont assume i am or ill turn this around on you. Second, THAT IS THE INTENTION OF THE MODE. you are supposed to hinder the enemy team. how is it that hard for you to understand that?

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Hinder them, yes.

Completely ruin everyone's chance of having fun, no.

People like you who think the mode's intention is just to stop each other from having any fun are the reason it hasn't come back. They want to include modes people LIKE to play. It'd be better if it were just that the enemy picked your champion for you, rather than forcing you to not have a jungler and forcing you to just wait until one team surrenders.

And frankly, if more people are stuck in the mindset that the mode should remain limited only to Supports and champions with the lowest pick rates, I'm glad it's not coming back. That meta makes in unfun for everyone.

NiamhNyx1 votes

If you cant have fun with someone giveing you a champ you cant play, this mode is not for you at all. OK, drop it.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Which is why the mode isn't here, because many more people dislike that. Congratulations.

NiamhNyx1 votes

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Which is why the mode isn't here, because many more people dislike that. Congratulations.

Ok, good for you! You hate a mode that most people hate. It gave me a chance to play champions I absolutely hate and will never play again, but you know what? I still had fun, why? Because that was point of the game mode.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

You're missing the point entirely.

Most people hate it.

That is why it needs to be fixed.

Just because you're in the extremely small minority of players who find it fun doesn't mean it's fine the way it is.

NiamhNyx1 votes

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You're missing the point entirely.

Most people hate it.

That is why it needs to be fixed.

Just because you're in the extremely small minority of players who find it fun doesn't mean it's fine the way it is.

most people hateing something does not mean it NEEDS to be changed. its a game mode that is supposed to be that way. DEAL WITH IT

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