PSA that Soraka does %HP True damage

The Ecdysiast·Aug 31, 2015·150 votes·6,967 views

...to herself.

EDIT: Someeone pointed out, it isn't true damage.

It's PURE damage, like the Obelisk does.

96 Comments

Der LindwurmAug 31, 201550 votes

http://img14.deviantart.net/1093/i/2014/289/1/5/soraka_by_tisamtale-d832kd2.jpg

gubigubiAug 31, 201520 votes

She is level 19? Urf!?

A Miss FortuneAug 31, 20159 votes

Soraka on URF was hilarious. Immortality op.

IcyPepperSep 1, 20151 votes

If you had warmogs, tho.

Spamming heal is fun and all, but that heal comes with a price.

Or if you grab Sona or another healer. Then it's ridiculously OP.

Ariel the CruelSep 2, 20154 votes

Nidalee You called?

IcyPepperSep 2, 20151 votes

Yeah, good luck ever winning a trade against Nid+Soraka. :3

Ariel the CruelSep 2, 20153 votes

A goat and a pussy cat walk into lane. . . .

. . . Wait. No. That's a horrible joke.

zzman73051Aug 31, 201542 votes

sounds like a personal problem

KidSpectreAug 31, 201517 votes

Wrong, it is HP removal. You know this because you can't shield the self-damage.

MathbalnaseAug 31, 201525 votes

So...it's WORSE for her than %hp true damage...

Sentinel HydraAug 31, 20153 votes

But... but... but... what can be worse than %hp true damage?

JAGMAGAug 31, 201512 votes

pure damage which is what the fountains use

Sentinel HydraAug 31, 20151 votes

Well... um.... what if you have 50000 HP, like on Sion ! Hah! take that pure damage! ~~this will never happen~~

JAGMAGAug 31, 20152 votes

what will never happen? and even if you do you could fountain dive but you wouldn't have the damage to kill anyone and pure damage overrides things like zonyas ga trynd ult sion passive to probably and be override i mean it kills you anyways as riots way of saying %%%% you for fountain diving

Byakuya KuchikiAug 31, 20155 votes

cant be hit while in zhonya's and sion ult still goes off

DeliothAug 31, 20152 votes

Well... Can't be targeted. Except by fountain.

kDrakariAug 31, 20156 votes

Actually, zhonya's does block the fountain laser, as does Fizz's E and pretty much anything else which causes the "untargetable" state.

JAGMAGSep 1, 20151 votes

maybe i just know it overrides several invincible effects

NarasimhaSep 1, 20152 votes

It overrides 'invincible', not 'untargetable'.

The LexerSep 1, 20151 votes

Well. If you have a 10000000000 hour long game, stacking hp on your w, then buy item 3074 item 3748 item 3072 item 3035 item 3053 item 3078 then fountain dive all you want

JAGMAGSep 1, 20152 votes

well..................................................... Rammus

Diananmen SquareSep 1, 20151 votes

Why the two hydras? They share an Unique passive.

The LexerSep 1, 20151 votes

I was taking into account pure stats at first (ad from hydra one, hp and percent ad from hydra two). Plus, it popped up when i typed in "hydra" so I thought "yeah why the hell not get two!"

Linna ExcelAug 31, 20159 votes

Supports don't need %hp true damage. I demand riot take that out her kit immediately.

Ariel the CruelSep 2, 20151 votes

Better nerf Sona.

5000000000000000Aug 31, 20157 votes

Don't build her tanky. Build AP and land your Q. Problem solved.

Blazing TenshiAug 31, 201514 votes

item 3083

Best sustain item.

CatastropAug 31, 20156 votes

item 3116 is also good synergy too.

5000000000000000Aug 31, 20158 votes

Sure, if you want to only heal yourself and your heals to be worthless.

Blazing TenshiAug 31, 20158 votes

item 3083 + item 3027 + item 3116 = big heals for all.

AMYS GRAVEAug 31, 20153 votes

her heal doesn't scale with HP.... and there is only a little AP in those items.

FrikgeekSep 1, 20152 votes

It's 200 AP... how is that a little?

AMYS GRAVESep 1, 20155 votes

Its 200 AP across 3 items that cost 8450 on a supports gold earning. With no resistances the items aren't making you tanky, you could do a lot better on the AP front for the gold spent, and while i like the idea of warmogs soraka that's a lot of gold invested that could be better spent. It could be much better for the gold spent.

item 3069 item 2049 item 3065 item 3050 item 1052

gives gold income, wards, is cheaper, more team utility, doesn't need time to scale (RoA), mana regen, more HP regen, less straight up HP but more armor and MR giving you more effective HP, CDR, a buff for you and your ADC in teamfights, and gives your heals more impact.

to put it into perspective, your rank 5 heal does 240+200*0.6 = 360 while mine does (240+70 * 0.6 )*1.2 = 338. so in a teamfight you'll put out around 60-100 more HP total. AKA one ADC non-crit AA if you're lucky.

Not to mention that with CDR i'll probably get another entire heal off so i'll still wind up healing for more.

5000000000000000Sep 1, 20153 votes

Don't forget the increased cost of her healing.

I personally rush ardent censer over spirit visage.

The GovernerSep 1, 20151 votes

Just to leave it here: Spirit Visage's unique passive states that it increases all healings RECEIVED, not all healings, so it doesn't benefit Soraka's W active, unless you are aiming at her W passive, which can possibly work if you land a lot of Qs.

AMYS GRAVESep 2, 20151 votes

They changed spirit visage a few weeks back, but i can't seem to find the change now.

The GovernerSep 7, 20151 votes

The change is to allow the maximization of healings received, so it does benefit those who buy Spirit Visage and have a Soraka healing them, but it doesn't benefit Soraka's W active itself (unless you are buying it for Soraka's W passive, her R {so all healings to herself when she Rs is maximized}, or HP regeneration {Soraka has one of the lowest HP regenerations in the game by the way, so it's not really the best buy for her} of course).

IcyPepperSep 1, 20151 votes

Heals won't be as strong, but will that matter when you can cast it every second?

5000000000000000Sep 1, 20151 votes

Frequent heal comes from CDR. RoA+Warmog's have no CDR. Talisman+Ardent Censer does.

Increased self-healing more than help cover the cost of healing.

IcyPepperSep 1, 20153 votes

Wrong line of comments, man. I'm only talking about warmogs.

You could build item 3069 item 3190 item 3504 item 2045 or whatever else.

But to be honest, I view warmogs as a "win harder" sixth item. It's not really core, and it's fine ifyou're someone who doesn't like building it on her.

LadyRenlyAug 31, 20153 votes

Not anymore, with the changes to Warmogs unless you build pure tank

Blazing TenshiAug 31, 20154 votes

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+ + = big heals for all.

not pure tank, you just need 3k hp.

EgillionAug 31, 20154 votes

Soraka's Q spell health regen mechanic is the worst thing ever brought to the game

Honestly... basically soraka can't heal herself on her own.

DaxterrAug 31, 20153 votes

{quoted}

Soraka's Q spell health regen mechanic is the worst thing ever brought to the game

Honestly... basically soraka can't heal herself on her own.

Worst thing brought to the game huh? Mordekaiser wants a word with you

Ariel the CruelSep 2, 20151 votes

Karma could be worse.

Blue Moon WolfSep 1, 20151 votes

have you tried landing those Q's? they are less accurate than Zilean Q and people say all the time how it's horribly unreliable that one is. the only reliable way to land them is to be within enemy striking range and fire it while they are busy attacking you.

5000000000000000Sep 1, 20152 votes

Uh, yes. I main Soraka and I reliably land my Qs, both when it's pushed to my side (really easy because minions don't let them move), when it's in the middle (the most difficult, but it's pretty easy to land on the support who's hiding in the bush), or when we push to their tower (the ADC will be focused on CS and not dodging your skillshots). As the laning phase is ending, enemies don't care too much about getting hit because there's virtually no threat.

Before teamfights, it's the easiest to land because they're grouped together. In teamfights, it's pretty easy to land because you can get close to enemies pretty safely.

FiveofswordsSep 1, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Uh, yes. I main Soraka and I reliably land my Qs, both when it's pushed to my side (really easy because minions don't let them move), when it's in the middle (the most difficult, but it's pretty easy to land on the support who's hiding in the bush), or when we push to their tower (the ADC will be focused on CS and not dodging your skillshots). As the laning phase is ending, enemies don't care too much about getting hit because there's virtually no threat.

Before teamfights, it's the easiest to land because they're grouped together. In teamfights, it's pretty easy to land because you can get close to enemies pretty safely.

um please...'landing' the q isnt hard...jsut cast it on the enemy champ.The problem is the enemy may not cooperate...they will just move. her q and e are really nothing but zoning abilities, making other champs choose to either avoid them or be slowed. the only way you can depend on these abilities ever landing is if your opponents are just terrible....or lagging or something.

5000000000000000Sep 1, 20152 votes

So use it when you think you can land it. It's not punishing to miss it (pretty low CD, and low mana cost), so you can spam it if you really need the health.

Also, doesn't "landing" mean actually hitting the enemy with the spell? If it wasn't, I'm sorry for not being clear. I meant that I can actually hit the enemy laner reliably and heal off of that.