I hope this DJ sona thing is a joke..

Trash MammaI·Jan 31, 2015·2 votes·1,723 views

Ahri got a skin she didn't need Nidalee is getting one she doesn't need. Ashe is getting one she doesn't need. Sivir is getting one she doesn't need.

What about Zed/Zac/Gnar/Rek'Sai/Yorick/Taric/Swain/Skarner/Singed etc. etc. Can you stop wasting time on skins for champs who already have more than enough and lame cinematics and work on reworking champs that need it? Fix the servers? Giving champs with very little skins a new one? Do something besides the dumb thing, rito

32 Comments

disregardableJan 31, 20157 votes

Sivir definitely needed that skin.

Trash MammaIJan 31, 20151 votes

She has 6 skins...making this her 7th ._, Why exactly did she need it?

disregardableJan 31, 20153 votes

Warrior Princess is fugly, Spectacular Sivir was so fugly they made it legacy, Huntress Sivir is fugly and only available with the bundle, PAX Sivir wasn't available to the general playerbase, and Snowstorm Sivir is legacy, has a nice splash, but the in game model is fugly.

That leaves one available skin that people can and actually want to buy.

Trash MammaIJan 31, 20151 votes

Twisted Fate's skins have little to nothing involved with them besides a costume change/recolor and people still buy them. I wouldn't say just cause someone thinks a skin is ugly means it shouldnt count. Though I do agree they are lol. #Snowstorm sivir

KrizalidJan 31, 20154 votes

But.. DJ Sona.. is epic..

HeadCrusherJan 31, 20154 votes

"needs a skin" = point of view -I believe anyone who i would pay money for needs a skin(Morde, Olaf, Sona, Karthus, Hec, veigar, Graves)

Zed: yes Zac: has already been explained multiple times that he is hard to work with and that they dont want to half-ass or just do a recolor for him. Gnar: lolreally he came out like yesterday Rek'Sai: ^ Yorick: Riot hates him/waiting for him to be reworked Taric: ^ Swain: Has about the same skins as Sona(so according to your logic, he doesn't need one) -- Skarner: like literally just got a badass skin Singed: also has about same skins as Sona --

Fix the servers: Skins team =/= Server team Rework champs: pretty sure also a different team

Analysis: u mad cuz Sona>

BeatzBoyFTWJan 31, 20152 votes

RekSai - She JUST came out.....

Zed - He already has an SKT T1 skin, representing a championsip team.

Yorick Taric - I prefer his new VU/Champion update more than him getting a skin

Zac Swain - Agree with this one.

Skarner - So a legendary Battlecast Alpha skin isn't enough, huh....?

SmokinSickStyleJan 31, 20153 votes

Skins made just for events don't count, as if i were a new player i wouldn't be able to buy it, they are not programmed, so yeah Zed is the only 2012 champ sitting with no "legit" skin, meanwhile all champions outside Zac that came after him have gotten already pretty cool skins, like Yasuo receiving a pretty cool one and it didn't even pass 1 year from it.

TsundayJan 31, 20151 votes

At the same time a 3k RP skin shouldn't count for a new player either. DJ Sona being an ultimate skin should be a skin for a champion with multiple other skin options so that new players who want a Sona skin don't feel ripped off or pigeon holed into buying such an expensive skin.

SmokinSickStyleJan 31, 20151 votes

WTH has that have to with my comment, i don't care if Sona gets the ultimate or if any other champion gets one, i just pointed out that certain skins shouldn't count as proper ones if i'm able to buy it once a year or once in a lifetime (Like Riven's championship, it was out once then poof, one of the greatest skins in LoL and can't be bought, despite the fact i don't play Riven and i don't like her...).

TsundayJan 31, 20151 votes

WTH has that have to with my comment

It has everything to do with your comment. The OP made a thread complaining about how these champions needed skins and why was the ultimate skin going to Sona instead of them, this person replies saying 'hey here is why these champions aren't getting the next skin!', and then you responded saying 'Yeah but like skins that are barely available don't count'.

If the whole reason champions like Zed were brought into the discussion was because Sona was getting the next skin. You're basically telling the person above 'Yeah but you're wrong about why Zed doesn't need the next skin because I cant buy SKT as a new player'.

i just pointed out that certain skins shouldn't count as proper ones if i'm able to buy it once a year or once in a lifetime

No you disagreed with someone who pointed out why Zed isn't getting the next skin trying to invalidate their comment because 'his skin doesn't count'. The topic you're commenting on is about DJ Sona the legendary skin, the comment you replied to was discussing why it was Sona getting the legendary skin, it makes total sense that people--after reading the OP-- are going to read your comment with DJ Sona in mind and respond accordingly.

(Like Riven's championship, it was out once then poof, one of the greatest skins in LoL and can't be bought

The greatest skin will always be Victorious Janna and Riot said they would bring back the Riven skin in a couple of years. They said the rule is a 4 year wait to bring back something they've previously claimed 'would never be available again'.

Trash MammaIJan 31, 20151 votes

I completely forgot about battlecast alpha skarner..I only see it like once a millennium

When Kalista was released it didn't take them long to think of rek'sai so idk why skins should be any different :/ Instead of releasing another ahri skin maybe they could've thought of a new one for kalista/azir/rek'sai/gnar

SukishooJan 31, 20151 votes

Skin making and Champion making is very different but can be similar in time spent to do. They first go through the process of putting the champs together, getting all the skills they think will work and does it overall fit the game. Next, come skins. Skins can take a lot longer do to the fact they have to build up a new model for the skin, being new clothes/looks, new weapons, new accessories, new animations to flow with the new look.. plus does the skin fall under the 975 or above tier where they will need to add new effects rather then just using the base effects. So skins can take quite a bit of time.

Zac for example, has many reasons why he doesn't have a new skin. One Rioter commented on that saying it's because ideas like "Gentlemen Zac" have a lot of complications. Since Zac stretches, changes sizes/shapes... how would clothes really work with that? Then there's the fact that if they just made another skin for him like his alt skin, it'd be basically looked at as another recolor and they didn't want to do that.

BeatzBoyFTWJan 31, 20151 votes

Meanwhile, Leona 's umbrella being able to cast down magma ult sunlight.

SukishooJan 31, 20151 votes

What does that have to do with anything?

Trash MammaIJan 31, 20151 votes

He means the fact that why should it matter if zac wears clothes when he stretches because quote "how would clothes really work with that? "

By using Ritos logic on that Leona shouldn't be able to cast down something as hot as sunlight with an umbrella and have it unscathed.

Though that was a poor expression he has a point. How can Rammus roll across all types of terrain without getting dirty? How can Garens mighty armor be hurt by something as weak as an arrow? etc. etc.

SukishooJan 31, 20152 votes

Uh.. well that's not at all what they were saying.

How do the clothes stretch with his body? How does it work with his mechanics? How would they make it work? It may be something can imagine but not everything is as easy to do as it is to say

Pool Party Leona, the sun still plays a good factor into that. Where, yeah, an Umbrella that can cause a beam of light doesn't make much sense no, but still it was easy for them to animate.

TsundayJan 31, 20151 votes

It's not about realism, that's not the problem with a Zac skin. Making clothes stretch on him through his animations while still looking like clothes that are both recognizable and aesthetically pleasing is a lot different than Leo holding an umbrella (and it's not the weapon itself that casts it, how is a sword gonna cast a spot of sunlight either?)

BeatzBoyFTWJan 31, 20151 votes

Skins:

-new sounds -new colour -new animation, phrased from the original

Champion:

-new champ from scratch -colours that takes like a week to figure out. -a week or 2 to think of new moves. -is this champ OP or UP? -think of suitable damage numbers, in-terms of %damage true/magic/attack damage ratio -how to make it a mid champ, not top champ?

TsundayJan 31, 20152 votes

Actually Champs =/= skins.

See there are multiple different groups working on champions at different times. Each champion has a different designer/set of designers and multiple champions are being worked on concurrently. Sometimes a champion goes through the process really quick, other times champions like Azir or Ao Shin go through the process in long drawn out periods. Riot releases these champions when they are done the same way they release skins. If a champion like Rek'Sai takes 6 months to go from start to finish and a champion like Kalista takes 3, they come out with Kalista and realize a few weeks later they already have their next champion out.

It's not that they didn't take long to think of Rek'Sai it's that it was a totally different group of people working on Rek than working on Kalista so development was happening concurrently.

With champions there is no deadline, when a new concept is made and finished that's it. With skins it's a lot different. They need skins for Lunar Revel, they need a skin or two for Valentines Day, they need a Championship skin, they need Harrowing SKins, they need Snowdown skins, etc. Other skins like Arclight Vel'koz are fleshing out skin lines. Varus had a really cool skin concept and it felt like a concept that Vel'koz could expand on.

Instead of releasing another ahri skin

When you're making a big skin, I'm not talking about a theme skin like Arclight, you don't want to pick a new champion or a champion that nobody uses. A Championship skin represents the whole season. The team skins represent their picks that changed the competition, for a whole season. The Riot skins are easily recognizable champions that had play/traction at the time their Riot skin was released. You don't go 'Oh I released Rek'Sai last month and I need a champion to represent this whole season! I better pick this new champion whose identity nobody understands and who might not even be played all season', no they went with a recognizable face (Ahri) and a champion I'm sure they were playing around with changing (they were probably thinking about DFG changes at that time). They went with a face that was LCS familiar over a champion like Azir who didn't have a lot of play yet.

Thresh got a championship skin early after his release because let's face it he became a staple support quite quickly and he became a recognizable part of bottom lane, arguable a staple of the game.

If you wanted to make a second skin for Rek'Sai or Azir you'd pick an actual theme to explore. Undead Azir, Underwater Rek'Sai. You don't slap that year's banding skins on their name.

CursedByLightJan 31, 20151 votes

Also have to consider that Rito is a business. Making skins for underplayed champions isn't impactful for business until Rito gets them back up to, if not competetive, playing standards and reliability.

Trash MammaIJan 31, 20151 votes

Naut/Sivir/Varus/Ashe are all getting new skins..they're not exactly overplayed..Especially Naut and Varus

insaiyanbaccaJan 31, 20151 votes

zed if fine imo but thats my opinion cause i think his base is awesome. zac is hard to make skins for but they have a few idea right now from what ive heard, gnar is new so give him a year or so unless they have an amazing idea that he needs immediately, same with rek, yorick wont be touched till he reworked, taric is getting a vu in the near future. swain does need a new skin i keep hearing about dragonmaster swain or soemthing. skarner just got a legendary. singed does need one though

KrizalidJan 31, 20151 votes

Hell yeah, I actually enjoy Zed's SKT skin. I know that Zed mains prefer to have a more expensive skin but do not forget that his first skin was actually worth 1350!

insaiyanbaccaJan 31, 20152 votes

yeah i dont play zed alot but i think his base is just so awesome its kind of hard to top

Rune OcarinaJan 31, 20151 votes

Woohoo, DJ Sona baby! I can't wait!

AdononJan 31, 20151 votes

They have four skins queued up for the patch. One of those spots could have been used for a champ that really needs it. I've seen skin after skin after skin suggestion for Zac and he still isn't getting anything.

SleepyLionCubJan 31, 20151 votes

lolwhat.

Sivir def needed that skin, and Zed just got a skin last week bruh.

Also. Hardly any of the champs you mentioned actually need a skin, and the rest are sooooooooooo underplayed, and going through visual reworks atm.

LANWhaleJan 31, 20151 votes

Wait I think your mistaken there buddy. Last time I checked Zed never got a skin last week. The only thing Zed got last week was a set of heavy hands.

SleepyLionCubJan 31, 20151 votes

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Wait I think your mistaken there buddy. Last time I checked Zed never got a skin last week. The only thing Zed got last week was a set of heavy hands.

Someone doesnt know what a hyperbole is

LANWhaleJan 31, 20151 votes

Some one doesn't get the Heavy Hands joke. Sigh I thought really hard about that one too. item 3070