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I had no idea who Dunkey was..like legit never heard of this guy before this board hype

Trash MammaI··244 votes·12,261 views

What I got from his video was:

1)He encountered a troll (which all of us do eventually) 2)He lost his chance at a promo (that as any other high elo person would say if you're meant to move up you will) 3) He flamed so hard that he hoped someone got killed 4) Got banned for FOUR DAYS and started throwing a tantrum and made an entire video on it 5) Starts pointing out whatever he could that makes league an imperfect game (I never knew there was such thing as a perfect game)

My thoughts: If you are willing to play a video game with complete strangers on the internet KNOWING exactly how the game is and still intend to tell someone they need to be gunned down on the street shows you have no reason to around society in general. I don't think a lot of people here realize this when they log into league. IT'S. A. VIDEO. GAME. Your life still goes on even if you don't get plat/challenger/diamond etc. w/e. You will not die because some child lost you a game. Mute him. Report him. Move on. It's as easy as that.

I don't get how people can defend this guy who told someone such harsh things yet the moment someone insults them verbally they want justice done and cry when it isn't.

Also another note: As far as I know the tribunal only bans you or w/e after a series of reports as well as you being reported multiple times through multiple games by multiple people. If you aren't reported much you usually get a warning or chat ban etc.

So i'm gonna assume he wasn't a very nice person to play with in the first place.

Just my opinion on someone who doesn't even really know who Dunkey is

158 Comments

Solari Fortune54 votes

I tried watching on one Dunkey's videos, got about 2 min in before I had enough on his language. Can he say anything without cussing every sentence? He also said that being toxic in games is what makes it fun? Is he the reason I run into jerks in my games, they wanna be like him so they are utterly toxic to anything moving?

HighH18 votes

Well you're playing League of Legends isn't it in your average game for people to swear?

Tesla Effect3 votes

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Well you're playing League of Legends isn't it in your average game for people to swear?

I rarely see people chat something to begin with. But I also mute people which usually helps the match. Bickering leads to nothing.

Ralanr10 votes

Average? Not to other players. I usually just cuss at myself when I see a match up I don't enjoy.

I've been toxic before, I usually apologize if it's really toxic.

Cause you know, I'd like to not have a community that supports toxicity.

Trash MammaI14 votes

Playful toxicity is fine, when someone killed you and says something as small as "git gud m8" in a joking manner i'm fine with it and just like "LOL REKT" or something silly as a reply to that.

I don't usually intend to hurt peoples feelings when I say something that seems toxic especially considering I will insult myself when I get killed/do a dumb play

LeeDark5 votes

My personal favorite is, after any escape, "2fastUfurious"

The Mormonator2 votes

writes that one down

Xonra6 votes

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I tried watching on one Dunkey's videos, got about 2 min in before I had enough on his language. Can he say anything without cussing every sentence? He also said that being toxic in games is what makes it fun? Is he the reason I run into jerks in my games, they wanna be like him so they are utterly toxic to anything moving?

There are a few like him that I believe make issues much worse, seeing as he has about 1 million plus subs somehow. People like him, Trick2G (Sorry fanbois, but he is an asshole too, just less toxic in chat at least), etc, think acting like an asshole is cool, or funny, and sadly it gets the attention of the 15-18 crowd, who emulate it, and just make the issue worse.

They aren't the root or only cause, but they sure as hell make it a lot worse and tend to fuel the "I can say what I want, it is funny/the internet/get thicker skin" garbage people spew.

MysticFlameHaze5 votes

it's just what he does for his videos, it's all part of the character he has developed because the people subscribed to him like it, there are many other channels out there like his, i am also subscribed to him, i find him hilarious in the crap he does because it's just dumb humor. but he actually is a pretty good guy, you just don't like his content is all. people have different taste.

D Bag31 votes

I'm gonna give you an upvote to soften the blow before those fanboys get here. Just find a shelter near you and laying low for awhile.

Good luck!

http://www.auplod.com/u/auopld60eff.png

Trash MammaI3 votes

Doesn't bother me just felt i'd voice my opinion as an outsider. I'm not a fan nor a hater of Dunkey so w/e

Žorø5 votes

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Doesn't bother me just felt i'd voice my opinion as an outsider. I'm not a fan nor a hater of Dunkey so w/e

Thing is (as he said himself) he's played league for five years and for a while now he really hasn't been having fun playing league. The only fun he has involving league is recording and making videos for his viewers. Even when he's playing with Sky he doesn't sound like he's having fun. I think he was on the borderline of quitting, and Riot's ban on him gave him that last push. It wasn't just the troll or Riot banning him that pissed him off and made him quit, it was quite a lot of things.

Although I partially agree. It's one thing to talk shit, but it's another thing to tell someone to die.

ccseancc1439 votes

Lol you are a no life. Legit you attach a signature to your posts like you are some celebrity lmaooo. What are you trying to get board famous or something? To find your place among other league of legends players. Sorry to tell you pal but, you should take the advice from this thread. There is life outside of league and its boards and you should go taste it.

illusydara8 votes

I actually like that signature. I was ready to just write that person off a a Dbag, but the signature made me think. They tend to post good shit, and I've always believed you should stick to what you're good at.

Catastrop19 votes

Plus the signature just adds an air comedic relief which is always nice.

Fowus3 votes

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I'm gonna give you an upvote to soften the blow before those fanboys get here. Just find a shelter near you and laying low for awhile.

Good luck!

http://www.auplod.com/u/auopld60eff.png

so how did you get that sig

DrCyanide7 votes

He posted a link to a png with a transparent background. He has to do that every post, it's not automatic.

Ralanr28 votes

I just watched the vid.

Riot doesn't owe anyone anything for playing their game. You are not obligated, you are not payed, and you are certainly not the only person who chooses to play the game with your freetime. The videos made are fan creations, they are a nice gesture of interest to the game, but Riot didn't pay anyone to make them. They made them of their own free will.

I don't understand this line of thinking, "You owe me because I invested time into your creation, I invested it of my own free will and you are obligated to owe me."

No. Riot isn't obligated to do shit for you. Here's the said truth that people seem to forget: There is no difference between a league YouTuber and a league player to Riot. They are just players. Doesn't matter how good you are at the game, doesn't matter how famous you are within the community (because it's filled with players). Unless Riot has hired you to do something, then you do not matter for special things like, "hey can you unban me?" More than anyone else.

Get over yourself. Riot treats (or it's trying if anyone wants to argue) its players equally no matter how good, bad, how much they paid, or how popular they are. That's how a company is supposed to run, without favorable bias and with goals to help it advance.

What would it say about Riot if they unbanned him to finish his video? It would only further prove the mentality that Riot doesn't care because they let a toxic player back in because he's famous.

A ban is someone putting the foot down. Accept the punishment like an adult or leave. Don't expect special treatment.

Okagemi8 votes

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I just watched the vid.

Riot doesn't owe anyone anything for playing their game. You are not obligated, you are not payed, and you are certainly not the only person who chooses to play the game with your freetime. The videos made are fan creations, they are a nice gesture of interest to the game, but Riot didn't pay anyone to make them. They made them of their own free will.

I don't understand this line of thinking, "You owe me because I invested time into your creation, I invested it of my own free will and you are obligated to owe me."

No. Riot isn't obligated to do shit for you. Here's the said truth that people seem to forget: There is no difference between a league YouTuber and a league player to Riot. They are just players. Doesn't matter how good you are at the game, doesn't matter how famous you are within the community (because it's filled with players). Unless Riot has hired you to do something, then you do not matter for special things like, "hey can you unban me?" More than anyone else.

Get over yourself. Riot treats (or it's trying if anyone wants to argue) its players equally no matter how good, bad, how much they paid, or how popular they are. That's how a company is supposed to run, without favorable bias and with goals to help it advance.

What would it say about Riot if they unbanned him to finish his video? It would only further prove the mentality that Riot doesn't care because they let a toxic player back in because he's famous.

A ban is someone putting the foot down. Accept the punishment like an adult or leave. Don't expect special treatment.

Riot does this thing where they feature League of Legends youtubers on the splash page. This helps those youtubers out because it exposes them to the community a little more. I haven't seen Dunkey on that page once, so correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't really help him out. Look at someone like Discoheat. Riot featured his channel stating that he breaks the meta and that his vids are cool because of that, but they seem to ignore the major point of those series, which is that he has to deal with toxic people a lot just for breaking said meta. The guy even has a series called "League of Children" which showcases the toxicity. Riot doesn't pay attention to that as far as I can tell. But as Dunkey said, he has provided FREE advertisement for their game. Despite the fact that the game is free to play, people still pay for cosmetics and such, and since he has been doing it for however many years, that's why he feels he should get something. As far as I know, youtube is pretty much a job of his as well. I don't know if he monetizes his videos (I see ads on them so maybe he does), but Riot shows their appreciation to youtubers is my main point. He hasn't received said appreciation (as far as I know).

Also, as a side note, I am not defending Dunkey for what he did. I am simply stating his perspective a little more clearly. Also, I do think the Malphite should receive a punishment, whether it was a one time thing or not. You should never intentionally troll a game, because even though it's a one time thing, you are still ruining the game for 9 other people that one time that you did it.

Ralanr6 votes

Ahh. Thank you for showing his perspective. I will admit I do not know the viewpoints of professional youtubers.

Honestly I think Dunkey wasn't someone who would provide enough positive representation of league to warrant Riot exposing him more (and he didn't need it by the looks of it). I can't really say this all for certain since I'm not a famous (or anything beyond watching youtube) youtuber or a Rioter.

Silents4296 votes

How does someone with like 1.8 million subscribers need help exactly?

What does dunkey make that's worth sharing? All of his League videos are him being toxic, why would they promote that?

Sentinos2 votes

Aye, but has Riot featured a toxic youtuber? Why, why why why, would Riot want to feature someone like that? Maybe Malphite did get his punishment, but that doesn't matter. Dunky received his for what he did.

MillionaireHobo2 votes

One of Dunkeys videos was shown on Season 2 Worlds.

Zedex15 votes

Lol, gets banned for four days and throws a tantrum.

Sounds like he'd fit in with the rest of this forum community.

Crett13 votes

Dunkey isn't a super kind person to play with (anyone who looks at the chat logs would know), but his videos are an unprecedented genre of comedy and he's pretty charming I imagine he may be in a pretty negative place right now, so I'm not outright condemning him for it, but the slap on the wrist ban was unavoidable after that comment LOL

Baseball3b10 votes

As a huge huge Dunkey fan, there's no doubt he deserved the suspension (though admittedly his crassness is a big part of what makes him absolutely hilarious)

But on the other hand, he did bring up some valid points in his video, especially the discussion on the irony of the intentional feeder he was raging at facing zero consequences whatsoever while he was banned.

MohawkBird15 votes

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Xonra12 votes

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But you also have to look at the frequency of the things done. I checked the malphite's match history and that was the only game he intentionally fed in. Meanwhile Dunkey flames every other damn game and expects not to get punished. If the Malphite had a clean record, he doesn't deserved to get banned after 1 game. But since Dunkey was already chat restricted at that time, he sure as hell deserved it considering he should've known what was coming to him.

I by no means am defending what the Malphite did, but chances are he did it to "Be in a Dunkey video" because let's be honest...Dunkey is a pretty toxic d-bag, and the way HE acts probably made the Malphite think acting that way was okay, given it was Dunkey. He probably assumed he was recording a video and wanted to be in said video.

Again, not defending the Malphite, cause it was scummy (Though According to lyte, The case where Dunkey said what he told us he said i nthe video, wasn't even the same game as the Malphite, so Dunkey is slightly lying)

This is what Lyte said in response to a question on his ask.fm

"This also really wasn't a case about intentional feeders and whether it's OK to be toxic towards other toxic players--there wasn't even a Malphite in the game that got him banned " So yes, there WAS a Malphite in a game, but the game that got him banned wasn't even the same instance he thinks, which means he was even worse Off camera, and likely an instance we aren't being told about. So he is just looking for sympathy.

Tesla Effect7 votes

Dunkey is partially to blame about the toxicity of this game. If he is so famous as he says he is, then a lot of people that play the game look up to him as weird as that thing sounds. Good riddance I say, a community has one less toxic player and maybe even more if he goes away for good.

Sarutobi5 votes

Even as someone who enjoys his videos it was going to happen sooner or later. It was my understanding he was mainly playing with friends when cracking jokes like that. But it seems like most of the time it was with people who didn't know him. It's sad but that's usually how it is when you play this game. You'll get people who don't know who he is no matter how famous you think he is. Hopefully this will change the way he acts because from all this it's pretty surprising how toxic he is when not making a video.

SteelStallion5 votes

This incident wasn't what made him leave, he has been growing frustrated with the game for a long time now and this was just the turning point. I think he had that ban coming too but I think that his salty delivery means a lot of people are going to miss some of the important points his case brings up: the auto-ban system is inherently flawed and is just a glorified cuss filter, punishing people who grow frustrated with the game severely while being very inefficient at punishing some of those who are responsible for the frustration. Riot says that they want champion diversity on one hand, and then they make changes that tunnel most champions towards one role anyway. There's less room for unorthodox strategies and individual skill carrying a game because Riot is enamoured with their "grab as many players as possible" approach to gameplay design, neutering the game in all aspects because they want to make it more accessible and get a bigger bottom line.

So on the one hand, nah, his ban wasn't unjustified and I don't fault Riot for punishing overly toxic behavior. On the other hand, Riot doesn't really seem to have their priorities straight. (Or rather, they do, but those priorities are in the best interest of Riot's $$$ and not the overall quality and enjoyment of the game)

Ionian4 votes

I honestly don't care about League youtubers at all, and the drama is irrelevant to me. Idk why people value their opinions so much more just because they make videos. If it was anyone else doing this nobody would care. But because it's some dunkey guy threads like this are made.

Ralanr1 votes

The community has a habit of following things. It's one of the reasons I dislike the community because this creates annoying metas.

Actually I just don't like the meta in general. Going with it is like being a sheep, going against it makes you a dumbass. Can't win if you give a fuck.

Ionian3 votes

I stopped caring about the meta long ago. I just say "ahri any role" and I often find myself playing Ahri top/jungle/supp. I even have a rune page just for jungle Ahri.

Silents4294 votes

For anyone bringing up that Malphite, Lyte said that wasn't even the game that got him banned.

And the game with the Malphite he won.

ZombeezyJeezy4 votes

He left for the same reasons I did; Riot have basically claimed and acted like they've "cured" toxicity in their game, meanwhile it's more prevalent than ever, even 3 years ago when I left because of how ridiculously intolerable the community was to play with. Enter a series to get promoted - nope, guy on your team is going to do EVERYTHING he can to make sure you lose. "You weren't meant to win" is a bullshit counter argument, and anyone who says this has the IQ of a potato. If you were watching a football game, and one player decides to completely ignore the plays and ultimately throws the match, fans would be fucking FURIOUS and demand that player be banned from games.

But oh wow, the guy intentionally feeding and/or using Bard or Tahm or Kalista to intentionally cause another player to lose didn't say any bad words, so it's fine.

Not only is toxicity in ALL ELO's at an all-time high, but we're basically told "Only 2% of all games are toxic and we strive to ensure that toxicity is taken care of!" is complete and utter bullshit. I've had days where I will play 5 games and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE GAMES HAS SOMEONE (in either team) trying to make the game as MISERABLE for the other players as possible.

It's disgusting, it's becoming worse and worse, and Riot close their eyes and cover their ears and pretend like they've fixed the problem.

I have barely played in the last couple of weeks, and have little to no intention of coming back until real changes to the community are made.

P.s. I haven't been chat restricted since February (was chat restricted because I told the guy telling me to kill myself to "fuck off"), so inb4 "you're probably toxic" or some other shitty counterargument that blind sheep fanboys will throw at me.

TurquoiseYoshi3 votes

I would personally say that Kid Icarus Uprising was a nearly perfect game, and many people would say that Super Mario Galaxy was on a perfect level.

KatCraft3 votes

I don't think Dunkey's ban was out of line but these threads are very disingenuous by ignoring the fact the Mal was being a massive prick and deserved to be insulted.

And no kids, actions are far worse than words both in game and real life.

Randed3 votes

You're just another whiny ass bitch. It's a goddamn game. People are gonna shit talk you. Just sack up and shit talk back. If someone punched you, I bet you'd be one of those coddled babbies who just crawled into a fetal position. I'm glad dunkey finally saw the light and left this pussy ass game. I swear this game should be the poster child for hillary 2016.

Dunkey is god, dunkey is life. Lest we not forget.

LeprechaunJinx3 votes

Or you can be smart after getting punched and file for an assault case. There are much better ways to get back at someone who wronged you than dropping to their level. One solution just has you both mildly injured with lasting animosities while the other makes sure they will never mess with you again no matter who you are.

ahferroin73 votes

The tribunal is dead, They replaced it with a machine that doesn't ban when it should, and bans when it shouldn't. This is one of the few rare cases I've seen where it actually banned someone who should have been banned.

Mike170322 votes

Same here. Looked at a few of his vids and he seems to be the typical youtube retard that tweens watch all day. Like Sky for Minecraft or Pooppie or whatever that other morons name is.

He also seemed to be an ass, saw him tell a few plays to fuck off in the game. Hope he enjoys his time off, and I hope he never returns.

Blade of Justic2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Simple Tora,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=I0kBZ0Vb,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-13T08:01:28.610+0000) IT'S. A. VIDEO. GAME. Your life still goes on even if you don't get plat/challenger/diamond etc. w/e. You will not die because some child lost you a game. Mute him. Report him. Move on. It's as easy as that.

Oh look! Someone who plays this game that actually has a brain!

ABOUT DAMN TIME SOMEONE SAID THIS!

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LaceUp232 votes

If you are willing to play a video game with complete strangers on the internet KNOWING exactly how the game is and still intend to tell someone they need to be gunned down on the street shows you have no reason to around society in general. I don't think a lot of people here realize this when they log into league. IT'S. A. VIDEO. GAME. Your life still goes on even if you don't get plat/challenger/diamond etc. w/e. You will not die because some child lost you a game. Mute him. Report him. Move on. It's as easy as that.

You know, the same exact thing can be said the other way. If you are willing to play a video game with complete strangers on the internet KNOWING there are dicks that will flame you and say bad things, then you have no reason to bitch about it. There is a mute button. Boom. EVERY. SINGLE. PROBLEM. WITH. FLAMERS. IS. SOLVED. Mute, report, move on. It's as easy as that.

j j2 votes

Whether or not dunkey deserved to be ban or not is hardly the point. The point of the video is how companies are becoming more politically correct in order to secure more revenue. And people who abuse other players and are actually toxic go unpunished while those who defend themselves or vent their frustrations when encountered by such a player are punished instead. It's not much different than the real world where states don't allow "stand your ground". It's the "we know better than you complex" and we will dictate how you act and you will do as we say or face the consequences. Not much different than a police state kind of mentality. So, yes I understand his frustration. It's happening in the real world as well. People are slowly figuring that out.

But on his other point I totally understand that league has lost it's way and in comparison to other mobas seems to be losing out on a much bigger market by acting like they have a monopoly. League is not competitive in the moba market. They at this point do the bare minimum where other mobas who actually want to get big are doing much more than league. The other mobas are catering to their communities while league ignores theirs and treats theirs poorly. There are things WE the community wanted in league since 2009 that are slowly just being introduced in 2015 or not even at all. While other mobas introduced these concepts in their alphas or betas. League has just lost it's touch. Most of the current players in league consist of people who started in 2013-2015 area. I would say a good majority of veteran players have slowly been getting fed up with the treatment received over the years and or quit. Although I don't speak on behalf of everyone. Just from my own observations. I'm one of the veterans finding myself playing other mobas than league currently until changes happen.

Vaporware2 votes

I just got the same kind of ban Dunkey did for participating in a dialogue with other players on both my team and the enemy team because I said too many buzzwords.

This reporting system is a joke. I think once I get unbanned, I might start working on removing the chat feature from my installation of the game entirely, not because the community can't take a joke, but because Riot's BBB (Big Brother Bot) can't take it when I use dreaded Wrongspeak.

Or I might just uninstall and go to SMITE. The game isn't much fun, but at least the community is made up of actual human beings and not human tissue paper that explode when they hear a curse or slur.

DarkNaraHarr2 votes

He was the largest League of Legends channel on youtube, though i personally only watched his videos when linked by friends

RichBean2 votes

As someone who has been playing lol since beta, I have followed dunkey since he began making videos. You ask how people can defend this guy, and the answer is because, for many of us, he seems like a friend who you have known for all of your league career. While I'm alright with him getting banned, I really dislike people who seem to feel that dunkey is this terrible person based off of just watching a few of his videos. Many of his videos have jokes that you really wont get unless you have been following him for a while. While he can be a dick, he is really no different from most players I play with. I just hate seeing people stereotype dunkey without actually having seen the majority of his videos. He is an amazingly funny guy. His comedy can seem very dumb but its clever once you see his running gags.

killstealbandit2 votes

What most of you are failing to mention is the reason that dunkey and most people who actually put effort into league rage about is the intentional trolls. People who think its funny and feel some sense of power in the fact that they can screw with you ruin 20-60 minutes of your life. Is there any real punishment for that? NO. you can report all you want but I have never in my countless hours of playing heard of someone getting banned for feeding or lack of skill which I think are much bigger issues than name calling. Did he take it a bit far? Maybe, but to waste an hour of someone's life should warrant a much harsher punishment.

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