Can we get a battle mage?

Skorch··37 votes·4,440 views

Like a semi tanky, ap Melee caster mage (not galio). I may have seen an idea for this before but something along the lines of a monk with a Bo staff.

Edit: Holy shit, i just saw this had near 1000 views and was top page of C&C thanks guys.

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Papa Andrei13 votes

Morde, Diana, Galio, Kassadin,. Already got melee ap aa based Also Eve

Skorch2 votes

I wouldnt call them battle mages except maybe Kassadin, There is also the thematic that a Battlemage makes, and none of them fit that. Althought they are indeed melee ap aa champs yes, not quite what im looking for.

Papa Andrei13 votes

Morde is literally a battlemage, exactly. He is a mage, who uses melee weapons, who thrives in the thick of battle. If you do not consider him a battlemage, then you don't know what a battlemage is and you have grabbed a random title to describe what you want.

Skorch4 votes

In game he is a battlemage, but thematically (while we dont know a lot) he is more of a lich than a battlemage. Although we know very little of his ability we do know he relied on his immortality a lot during his battles.

Im looking for someone who uses more equal parts magical ability and fighting prowess.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Irelia if you consider telekinesis to be magic, she does alot of attacking vie using her mind to throw enchanted blades around.

But that is getting SUPER technical

50000000000000001 votes

Riot has stated already that her thematic has a lot of potential for gameplay update. Maybe she'll feel like a battlemage while still being a diver?

Wimbledofy3 votes

mordekaiser is nothing like a battlemage. Only thing that makes him magey is that he is ap. But if you look at it from a non ingame/stat perspective he is not a battlemage.

Fondling Gems5 votes

To insert a reference I just spent an amusing hour searching for:

"Battle mage? That's not a profession. It barely qualifies as a hobby. 'Battlemage' is about as impressive a title as Lord of the Dance." ... "I am adding Lord of the Dance to my titles."

-Richard: Lord of the Dance, Mistress of Magma, Archmage of Destiny, Lord Ashendale, Mayor of a little village up the coast

Skorch1 votes

What?

Fondling Gems1 votes

Damn, references falling through again. Ahh well, I tried. Maybe someone else will get it.

Sorry, every time I hear battlemage that quote is all I can think of.

Skorch1 votes

It was beautiful to read, but all i can respond with is "What?"

Fondling Gems3 votes

The most wonderful webcomic in existence: LFG. Basically rolls DnD, World of Warcraft, and all that jazz into one world and has you following 2 characters: The lawful good elf who wants to help things and the undead evil lich who hangs out, is all but unkillable, and just screws with people.

Basically reading it is a yes or no question:

http://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/24/76/2103266881-im-a-hat-on-a-cat.png Did you find this amusing? Read LFG. No? Run from any LFG fans you meet.

macromite5 votes

you said not galio after describing galio.

maybe you should just play galio.

Skorch4 votes

THEMATICS MY SIR!! There is a different between a fighter that uses magic to aid him. And a flying golem with magical properties. Same properties in gameplay point of view, different in thematics.

macromite1 votes

If monk thematics is what you want play lee sin. thematically he uses magic with his ult and q, and he is a monk.

Skorch3 votes

Not necessarily a monk, but someone who uses equal parts magic ability and fighting prowess. Lee has the fighting prowess, but his moves dont feel all that magical to me.

macromite3 votes

equal parts magic and fighting prowess eh? try out garen, leona, or Aatrox on for size on the thematic front. all of them use some level of magical capacity along with a good amount of physical power.

(also, I have no idea why your last comment got downvoted. I don't understand.)

Spaceman5pff2 votes

Garen doesn't do much magic really.

Diana is far closer than garen

macromite1 votes

when it comes to magic garen trades quantity with quality.

also diana uses magic much more than I think he is going for. based on his mention of a monk it should be more physical than magical.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

OP actually specified that it should NOT be a monk.

macromite1 votes

Where?

Spaceman5pff2 votes

Not necessarily a monk, but someone who uses equal parts magic ability and fighting prowess. Lee has the fighting prowess, but his moves dont feel all that magical to me.

The part where you replied without reading, apparently

AlienPrimate2 votes

In the lore he was a mage who became a monk seeking repentance after accidentally killing people with a magical experiment.

LVL 5 PORO4 votes

Diana

Sherogarth4 votes

Kind Sir you should specify that you are looking for someone whose main theme is "The Battle Mage" and not someone who just "plays" like one. It's also worth noting that "battle mage" is very loose theme, it can mean many different thing - "mage who specialise in battle magic", "mage who loves to battle", "mage who can win entire battles by himself", "mage trained for battle"... the list goes on. Probably proper theme you are looking for is "The Spellsword" - a character that combines both arcane/elemental magic, some kind of (enchanted) armor and a weapon.

While characters stated by others fit into "mage/warrior" achetype none of them is "spellsword" in its core. E.g. one could say that Taric fits into this theme - "he uses melee weapon and magic hur dur..." - but he is more of "a star/gem battle cleric" in his core (he was "a gem paladin" before his rework but now both Garen and Leona fit paladin theme better than he).

SpecterVonBaren4 votes

Rumble

Edit: And here I thought I'd be repeating what someone else said but I'm not. How the hell am I the first person to bring up Rumble?

The Great Divide1 votes

I still to this day argue that rumble is a perfectly designed champion because he so perfectly embodies what a battle mage is and should play like (even if he can be slightly overtuned at times).

Votable Jester2 votes

I'd say his ult is too long ranged and he's too lacking in tankiness to embody a battle mage to me, but I think everyone has their own view of what a battle mage should be.

WinTheWarOnPants2 votes

Bo staff.

This peeves me to no end! bō (棒: ぼう), is a very tall and long staff weapon used in Okinawa and feudal Japan. When you say "Bo staff" you are saying "staff staff"...

Danjeng3 votes

Bo Staff is the English name for a Japanese weapon. You won't expect Japanese people to pronounce "Hotdog" rather than "Hottodoggu", now would you?

But I can understand you. Master Sifu from Kung Fu Panda series, means "Master Master".

WinTheWarOnPants2 votes

Bo Staff is the English name for a Japanese weapon.

It's not. I know i sound like i'm just being overly picky too people who don't understand how language translation works, but "Bo staff" is redundant. It's the same as saying "katana sword" or "zweihander sword". "Bo" is the name of the weapon, pronunciation has nothing to do with this. "master sifu" also peeves me lol most Americans don't speak anything other than english so these errors rarely get corrected do to ignorance. Just like when you see some non-english speaker in another country wearing a shirt that says "I F*CK MY MOTHER" and they have no idea what it means.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

Oh trust me they know exactly what it means

macromite1 votes

Zweihander sword is actually passable. as Zweihander is a sword and also a description, literally meaning two handed or two hander, so in this case being a two handed sword.

also language is fluid, don't get caught in specifics or you will trip yourself up and end up being incomprehensible.

WinTheWarOnPants2 votes

yeah that probably wasn't as good as an example.

HeartseekerVarus2 votes

Do you know how much of English actually does this, though? XD

There's a reason that there's a DORD (Department of Redundancy Department) and the RAS Syndrome (Redundant Acronym Syndrome Syndrome).

There's actually a word to describe place names that fall under the DORD's area, even: tautological.

DC comics is Detective Comics Comics Lake Tahoe is Lake Lake Le Brea Tar Pits is The Tar Tar Pits Sahara Desert is Desert Desert Please RSVP is Please Respond Please ATM machine is Automated Teller Machine Machine Rice Pilaf is Rice Rice (well, Rice Ball of Rice) Minehaha Falls is Waterfall Falls Chai Tea is Tea Tea

Avenue Road in Toronto (need I say more) Street Road in Pennsylvania (god love the person who named it) Mississippi River is Big River River Shrimp Scampi is Shrimp Shrimp Ahi Tuna is Tuna Tuna LCD display is Liquid Crystal Display Display The Rock of Gibraltar is The Rock of the Rock of Tariq East Timor is East East Timor Leste is STILL East East

Queso Cheese is Cheese Cheese Salsa Sauce is Sauce Sauce The Los Angeles Angels is The The Angels Angels Naan Bread is Bread Bread Panini Sandwich is just horrible. A Panino is a sandwich, and panini is plural. So Panini Sandwich is Sandwiches Sandwich PIN number is Personal Identification Number Number RAS syndrome is Redundant Acronym Syndrome Syndrome DORD, since we're here, is the Department of Redundancy Department

El Camino Way is The Way Way Walla Walla River is Little River River (Walla is River, Walla Walla is Little River - otherwise it'd be River River River) Eas Fors Waterfall, in Scotland, is a stupendous offender: Waterfall Waterfall Waterfall. Scottish Gaelic, Norse, and English. Laguna Lake is Lake Lake (California, what on earth) Lake Lagunita is Lake Little Lake (California, please) Lakeville Lake in Michigan. Canvey Island is Cana's Island Island

Boulder Rock in Antarctica Milky Way Galaxy? Well, that's the Milky Way Milky Way. Rue Avenue, New Jersey. Aus Jus Sauce is Sauce Sauce RAM memory is Random Access Memory Memory HIV Virus? VIN Number?

And then you have your bo staff/staff staff. Somehow, it's less surprising after a whole list.

(Hah, it's like a poem. A very annoying poem that doesn't rhyme.) [slayer-jinx-wink]

WinTheWarOnPants2 votes

I didn't realize a bunch of these lol Good post and thanks for the info. Also, thanks for giving me even more language peeves Q.Q It really is "the more you know". It's crazy how little we understand about many things that we see/use every day.

TetsuTeito2 votes

I looked into Battlemages, and using inspiration from Dragon Age and KoA, I've come up with this skillset. If anyone wants to flesh it out, go for it. :)

Passive: Regains 1-5% (based on level) of his mana when struck by an auto attack.

Q: Empowers his autoattacks to deal damage over time for 5 seconds

W: Blinks to a target location

E: Charges for 3 seconds, then gains a shield for 50-75% (based on level) of the damage taken in that 3 seconds, blasting back 50% of the damage taken as magic damage in a short range aoe

R: Blasts a force of elemental energy in a cone, dealing magic damage and pulling enemies towards him, as well as gaining bonus armor and magic resist depending on how many enemies were pulled

I hope this helps a little bit.

Skorch1 votes

I was also drafting an Idea. Something along the lines of each ability had a different theme. And his passive would grant bonuses based off the last ability used.

TetsuTeito1 votes

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I was also drafting an Idea. Something along the lines of each ability had a different theme. And his passive would grant bonuses based off the last ability used.

Is there a specific faction you had in mind for this champion? Like Ionia, Noxus, etc.?

Skorch1 votes

Wow this is an old post, well... hmm... Personally as i stated above when i think battle mage, i go Bo Monk, so technically Ionia, i also feel like that works the best if the theme is say... Elements, they could be all about balance and shit.

TetsuTeito1 votes

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Wow this is an old post, well... hmm... Personally as i stated above when i think battle mage, i go Bo Monk, so technically Ionia, i also feel like that works the best if the theme is say... Elements, they could be all about balance and shit.

Well I actually already made a kit. It's not really elemental or really about balance, but I feel it's what a Battlemage in runeterra would have in his/her arsenal. I just wanted to know where you would like the lore to be placed. I was actually thinking of making him a noxian who switched sides to Ionia after seeing the error of his ways, or making him a wandering mercenary.

Skorch1 votes

Isnt that just sort of Riven, and a little bit of Taliyah?

HeartseekerVarus1 votes

A Dragon Age type of battlemage theme would be awesome. Between LoL and Dragon Age, I'd probably sooner replay Inquisition (a third time) or DA2 (a fourth time) instead of doing LoL, if I only had time for one.

I, personally, am in this thread mostly to read other comments and hope for an eventual battlemage theme, I don't have ideas on abilities... just themes and/or backstories. So I'm also just here to second the notion of a DA inspired mage. XD

TetsuTeito2 votes

Maybe I'll flesh this one out in my spare time and release it later, then. I should go back and finish all of my champion ideas.

FortisDominus1 votes

A melee mage champion that does more damage with autos based on AP ratios while being tanky would be nice

Galactic Pimp3 votes

Diana

FortisDominus1 votes

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Diana

lol no

idontgiveabother1 votes

Im thinking a ryze with a more dynamic theme here. You could probably change around his theme/colors and there you go.

Skorch2 votes

Wait, what if we MADE Ryze the battlemage in this years "annual ryze update?"

Actually he will probably still need one afterwards again, nvm.

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