So i have a champion Idea, nothing fleshed out yet. The mortar champion.

Skorch··1 votes·308 views

A champion that has a transforming ult. Dont be afraid, its a very different transforming ult.

Essentially out of ult it is a utility mage of sorts. But in ult he gains a new set of abilities that has the range of say, slightly larger than 2 lanes.

They are really squishy, so the battle is a game of hide and go seek to find the person who is incredoubly annoying, and kill them.

It is a concept that doesnt have any archetype in league so far and i think it would be interesting.

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You Disgust Me2 votes

Technically, they previously had two champions like this: old Xerath and Kog'maw.

Old Xerath's ult range was HUGE, had a large hitbox, did tons of damage, and didn't have an ult range indicator. Combined with his Q, W, and R, he was technically a Turret with insane range. If you don't know what I'm talking about, look it up. Kog'maw technically has the mortar aspect down, but he has to be within a reasonable range to deal damage.

From what you are proposing though:

"... slightly larger than 2 lanes." "... hide and go seek to find the person who is incredoubly annoying, and kill them."

These two aspects bother me. You're stating the champion can freely harass from more than halfway across the map. There's no counterplay to this.

Oh wait, I was wrong. Xerath was like this a few patches ago; not sure if you fought it, but you've probably heard of it. There was an exploit (hack) that allowed Xerath to hit everything globally with his Q from his base. It was perhaps one of the most annoying and frustrating things to fight against. However, what you're proposing is a slightly less toxic version of this...

Although if you are proposing a champion like this, there needs to be a few restrictions. One, the champion needs to be incredibly immobile. Two, the enemies must get vision of that champion or the skill if it were to use such an attack from far range. Three, the attacks must be visually telegraphed and have a delay to enable counterplay. Four, there must be a significant delay between barrages or have a relatively high cost to prevent spamming.

Skorch1 votes

i suppose since i dont have any fleshed out ideas, i cant DENY how it sounds. However this is a bit more in detail of what im thinking.

A utility mage/support jungler (that actually has to clear >.> Ivern) whos "ganks" are done without leaving the jungle. Maybe throwing heals/buffs, or doing a SMALL amount of damage or CC or whatever it would be.

There is a significant difference of this and the Xerath fiasco.

  1. They would be killable, the entire counter to this champion is invading them, as such they are easily killed when found. Xerath was in base ALL game meaning he was virtually untouchable.
  2. This champion would have downtime UNLIKE Xerath, who got kills AND farm using the hack.

Oh and for reference sake his global moves DEFINITELY would be telegraphed i 100% agree with that.

I will think up a champion concept and post it somewhere in the future when i have more ideas. If anyone else wants to join in go ahead.

You Disgust Me1 votes

Thanks for being so positive in your response.

Anyway, I guess the closest thing to what you are proposing in that description would be like a mix between Nidalee, Ivern, and Gangplank Jungle. An interesting concept to explore.

I do appreciate that you identified your champion's strengths and weaknesses beforehand. It really aids in the balancing process.

I look forward to reviewing your Champion Concept.

Skorch1 votes

Trust me, i see enough negativity and horrible things on the boards to want to promote that behaviour i find it abhorrent [slayer-jinx-catface]

Ph0neS1 votes
Skorch1 votes

That is actually somewhat what i had in mind

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