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(POLL) I'm going to run some experiments on the relative sizes of the gaps between ranks. Guesses?

CupcakeTrap··6 votes·569 views

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How do the different gaps in game-winning power between the different ranks compare? For instance, is the Diamond-Plat gap bigger or smaller than the Silver-Bronze gap? Obviously, there are a ton of confounding variables here, but I'm starting with what seems to me to be the most basic question.

Let's start with a concrete example.

You have 5000 RP riding on the outcome of a match. You don't get to play in the match yourself: you only get to decide the rank composition for your team, on the Tier level. They'll be random Summoners from that Tier, they won't know each other, and you won't get to coach them. A "Plat" slot might be filled by a Plat V or a Plat I.

You have two options for team composition:

  • Plat - Gold - Silver - Silver - Silver

or

  • Gold - Gold - Gold - Silver - Silver

In other words, would you rather replace a Silver with a Gold, or replace a Gold with a Plat? Which upgrade would give your team the biggest boost in chance to win?

I think it's a very interesting and potentially difficult question. It's relevant to me in that Factions relies upon mixed-rank matches for most of its games. For fairness, it's important to decide, e.g., how many points Bandle City should get if 5 Bandle City Silvers beat a Demacian team of 3 Golds and 2 Silvers. They should probably get more than the usual five points, but how much more? How remarkable was that victory?

I'm going to be running some test matches, but I'd love to find out beforehand what the community's expectations are, not only to guide my investigation but also because perceptions of fairness are pretty important.

So anyway, I'd appreciate your thoughts if you have a couple minutes. I will compile and share the data from both the poll and the test matches.

If you want to volunteer to be a lab rat, join the rank-appropriate chat (e.g. "SILVER", "GOLD"), using the higher of your S3 and S4 ranks. Set it to autojoin (gear icon in the upper right corner) and be on the lookout for random custom game invites.

http://i.imgur.com/VwhdlYe.jpg

For that matter, feel free to run some matches — instructions here — and submit the results using the form linked in the instructions.

(Note: I'm mostly on NA, but if anyone wants to run some EUW matches and submit the results, that'd be awesome! I've added a field on the results submission form to indicate server.)


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12 Comments

Sir ArmaMalum6 votes

+1 for science! Taking poll now

CupcakeTrap1 votes

Thank you!

Science bonus: there is a link to results from an earlier, somewhat rougher poll in the post-submission screen. I'm not linking it here to help reduce contamination, but once you've filled out the poll, feel free to have a look as a reward.

I will of course publish the full results of both polls once I'm done circulating this second poll.

Sir ArmaMalum2 votes

Cool, I'll take a look!

I do, however, have a question. For solo research 'contributions' I have a full ranked 5's team that's going to practicing soon. If I send you the post game results and the equivalent lol-nexus page would you feel that as useful/wanted? Granted it's not tournament draft, but naturally I wouldn't send anything in that involved trolling/afk's skewing the results. It wouldn't be an amazing amount of games, but it's another avenue for raw data if you want.

CupcakeTrap1 votes

Well, a ranked team probably plays differently than 5 randoms, and I'm not sure if the tier matchups will fall into the experiment parameters, but feel free to email me the LoL Nexus pics. Thanks!

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

True dat, I'll be sure to send them as soon as I can wrangle those 4 together and get some games in!

We'll be sticking within the Silver-Gold area, although we occasionally run into plats.

CupcakeTrap1 votes

Thanks! I probably won't be able to directly apply those matches to this opening round of experiments, but every bit of data helps.

The Dalek Lord3 votes

I am only silver but i was taught the game by platinum and diamond players, and despite being silver i pretty much always crush mid lane, my go to lane. I have noticed once you get to Gold people have a strong handle on mechanics, since mechanics overall help more then champion skill, the only factor with the higher ranks is more time, and effort, expended into practicing specific champions, so having a larger pool of reliable picks. I also try to play only skill based champion,Ziggs Viktor Syndra Chogath and after i leared all the mechanics they all feel the same difficulty to me.

Tsiddique2 votes

This is the first interesting poll I've seen on these forums. Nice job :P

CupcakeTrap1 votes

Aw, thanks! I'm busy setting up the next Factions arc, but I'll try to do the analysis and get the results sent out soon.

Tsiddique1 votes

Take your time c:

Meatybag1 votes

The only reason I would want the platinum, is to get the best possible jungler. That almost more than anything else would be the reason a game could be won or lost in my opinion. The gold and silver skill level is not relevant enough in my opinion to be all that different in my experience. Platinum from the rest however is relevant.

EmeraldSamurai1 votes

Just got done taking poll!

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