Why is Mage Lux getting nerfed?

Ahri Baka·Jul 1, 2019·7 votes·1,565 views

I mean , sure , her stats clearly shows she needs to be nerfed for support , go ahead and nerf her W or nerf Aftershock for ranged champions But why is her Ult resets getting removed too?

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boricCentaur1Jul 1, 20197 votes

Wait I just looked she is actually being gutted wtf WTF. There not even hitting what makes her annoying meaning we will just end up with a annoying and bad champion wtf riot. Like if you're going to change lux nerf his q r combo but nope riot is trying to do a shift in power but it is actually just a MASSIVE NERF. Like the w is just SO FUCKING BAD AFTER THIS SHE WAS NOT EVEN BROKEN, she should be nerfed but this hard.

She has also been good for like 3 patches but nothing for thresh WTF is riot doing. Also the biggest problem is lux is actually not that good she is a good right now because of how the meta is meaning when it changes because of these hard nerfs she will be pure shit.

Ahri BakaJul 1, 20195 votes

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Wait I just looked she is actually being gutted wtf WTF. There not even hitting what makes her annoying meaning we will just end up with a annoying and bad champion wtf riot. Like if you're going to change lux nerf his q r combo but nope riot is trying to do a shift in power but it is actually just a MASSIVE NERF. Like the w is just SO FUCKING BAD AFTER THIS SHE WAS NOT EVEN BROKEN, she should be nerfed but this hard.

She has also been good for like 3 patches but nothing for thresh WTF is riot doing. Also the biggest problem is lux is actually not that good she is a good right now because of how the meta is meaning when it changes because of these hard nerfs she will be pure shit.

That's why I'm mad If Lux support is the problem then go ahead and nerf it , don't nerf both Support and Mage lux

boricCentaur1Jul 1, 20191 votes

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That's why I'm mad If Lux support is the problem then go ahead and nerf it , don't nerf both Support and Mage lux

Like why not nerf her q root and her base damage on both r and q but buff the scaling this kills lux support and lets lux mid keep the utility of her w while also making her less annoying to fight which is why a lot people complain.

But also lux support is good but it doesn't deserve to be fucking gutted unless riot wants her to be only as a mid laner but like you said they're nerfing mid lux too even with the w change since it takes off her utility making her just a q r bot.

Keeperofthe7keysJul 1, 20191 votes

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Like why not nerf her q root and her base damage on both r and q but buff the scaling this kills lux support and lets lux mid keep the utility of her w while also making her less annoying to fight which is why a lot people complain.

But also lux support is good but it doesn't deserve to be fucking gutted unless riot wants her to be only as a mid laner but like you said they're nerfing mid lux too even with the w change since it takes off her utility making her just a q r bot.

It even nerfs mid more because it doesn't address aftershock, the whole reason she's a popular and strong counterpick to engage supports right now. They see a problem, and are literally ignoring it to just punish a different set of players for no reason.

LordGeovanniJul 2, 20191 votes

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Like why not nerf her q root and her base damage on both r and q but buff the scaling this kills lux support and lets lux mid keep the utility of her w while also making her less annoying to fight which is why a lot people complain.

But also lux support is good but it doesn't deserve to be fucking gutted unless riot wants her to be only as a mid laner but like you said they're nerfing mid lux too even with the w change since it takes off her utility making her just a q r bot.

all that does is get lux mage mains mad that landing their ult isnt free anymore you cant bribe people who overkill their target/s by 130% hp or more with more damage. and her E still has a super strong massive slow.

tempname1232134Jul 1, 20193 votes

having an ult you can almost never miss that does 1000 damage to anyone but tanks and resets is broken almost as broken as a support with a exicute reset ult and a top laner who does to much damage and a point and click exicute

you can downvote me all you like you know im right and you're in denial

Sona PingJul 1, 20196 votes

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having an ult you can almost never miss that does...

I see that somehow this guy has never played Lux. ...or against her.

tempname1232134Jul 1, 20191 votes

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I see that somehow this guy has never played Lux. ...or against her.

99% of the time you should be ulting someone that is cc by you or a team mate thus said you wont ever miss thus making my comment statment correct. i play lux myself was my 1st ever champion mastery 6 when it come out I 99% hit my ults only ever miss then because of zonyas flash or any other quick dash or imunity if they're cc they get hit its how its meant to work

Keeperofthe7keysJul 1, 20191 votes

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99% of the time you should be ulting someone that is cc by you or a team mate thus said you wont ever miss thus making my comment statment correct. i play lux myself was my 1st ever champion mastery 6 when it come out I 99% hit my ults only ever miss then because of zonyas flash or any other quick dash or imunity if they're cc they get hit its how its meant to work

A lvl 20 saying this like they understand the game is kind of funny.

Yes ideally you'd be going for shots that are hard to miss, the same can be said for literally any champion though so a rather moot point. What is a point would be ease of hitting moving targets with it, sniping low HP targets that got away and how much damage that snipe does. All of which considered with a 1 second delay it's fairly dodgeable and her performance as a mid laner building AP for significantly more damage than the support build would suggest, this is clearly not the issue.

It's pretty easy to discern the problem comes from her in lane phase performance as a support counter pick to engage supports using the aftershock rune, as this is the only case where she is a clear outlier in winrate. Now tell me exactly, how does nerfing her ult and shield address this problem?

tempname1232134Jul 1, 20191 votes

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A lvl 20 saying this like they understand the game is kind of funny.

Yes ideally you'd be going for shots that are hard to miss, the same can be said for literally any champion though so a rather moot point. What is a point would be ease of hitting moving targets with it, sniping low HP targets that got away and how much damage that snipe does. All of which considered with a 1 second delay it's fairly dodgeable and her performance as a mid laner building AP for significantly more damage than the support build would suggest, this is clearly not the issue.

It's pretty easy to discern the problem comes from her in lane phase performance as a support counter pick to engage supports using the aftershock rune, as this is the only case where she is a clear outlier in winrate. Now tell me exactly, how does nerfing her ult and shield address this problem?

see that I'm level 20 and thinks im actually new OMEGALOL welcome to league my friend where 99% of the playerbase has smerfs

tempname1232134Jul 1, 20191 votes

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A lvl 20 saying this like they understand the game is kind of funny.

Yes ideally you'd be going for shots that are hard to miss, the same can be said for literally any champion though so a rather moot point. What is a point would be ease of hitting moving targets with it, sniping low HP targets that got away and how much damage that snipe does. All of which considered with a 1 second delay it's fairly dodgeable and her performance as a mid laner building AP for significantly more damage than the support build would suggest, this is clearly not the issue.

It's pretty easy to discern the problem comes from her in lane phase performance as a support counter pick to engage supports using the aftershock rune, as this is the only case where she is a clear outlier in winrate. Now tell me exactly, how does nerfing her ult and shield address this problem?

the fact that I said I got lux level 6 when mastery 6 and 7 first come out and yous still made you comment thinking im a low level.....................even more laughable

Keeperofthe7keysJul 1, 20191 votes

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the fact that I said I got lux level 6 when mastery 6 and 7 first come out and yous still made you comment thinking im a low level.....................even more laughable

Ah yes, that's why you commented on it instead of your main and showed a clear lack of understanding of the game and drew false parallels where the best critique you could come up with was stating an obvious "you should do this with any skillshot champion."

The fact that this is the only thing you point at and don't make an attempt to argue against my point at all is very telling.

Luxanna AhegaoJul 1, 20192 votes

her Ult resets getting removed too

that sounds excessive simple scalings nerf would be better

tbh i want lux to be nerfed so she stops being so popular and i can spam her then ;)

edit: can i get more downvotes from salty lux mains

Keeperofthe7keysJul 1, 20191 votes

These changes are actually a meme, she's 19th winrate mid in plat+ at 51% which is in line with average. There are far more powerful champs that could be nerfed instead. Her kit also received 0 buffs in ages, what made her popular as a support recently was aftershock where she holds a 54% winrate in plat+

The problem here is clearly that the rune makes her a good counter pick to engage supports, it has nothing to do with the innate strength of her kit, as the same kit held much lower winrates and popularity before people started using aftershock. Nerfing her makes no actual sense looking at how she actually performs as a mid laner and even as support without aftershock.

Nerf aftershocks use on ranged champions, the thing that gives her an unusually high winrate only when using it and only as support, not parts of her kit that just hurts mid lane and won't stop her being a popular support as long as that rune does what it does.

MaskedMadnessJul 1, 20191 votes

both mage and support lux needed a nerf. the fact that she is a mage id say is the reason she is over powered as a support. to keep it brief because i mentioned this in another post. for the longest time lux has been way to strong and easy. skillshots are TOO easy to land. her ult is op because it lowers in cd for every kill and has the potential to wipe an entire team. her hitboxes for abilities are bigger then they appear. laning phase she has very little threats because of her passive being able to have an enhanced auto attack after an ability. mages are supposed to be their weakest when they use all their abilities, but lux is allowed to auto you for above average damage while she waits for CoolDowns. any time ive played lux ive never had a hard time winning against my opponent. if i have ever lost as lux its because someone on the team messed up late game or uber fed early.

simply said, if you want to try and counter argue. I can and will argue back with better examples go ahead and downvote now

tempname1232134Jul 2, 20191 votes

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both mage and support lux needed a nerf. the fact that she is a mage id say is the reason she is over powered as a support. to keep it brief because i mentioned this in another post. for the longest time lux has been way to strong and easy. skillshots are TOO easy to land. her ult is op because it lowers in cd for every kill and has the potential to wipe an entire team. her hitboxes for abilities are bigger then they appear. laning phase she has very little threats because of her passive being able to have an enhanced auto attack after an ability. mages are supposed to be their weakest when they use all their abilities, but lux is allowed to auto you for above average damage while she waits for CoolDowns. any time ive played lux ive never had a hard time winning against my opponent. if i have ever lost as lux its because someone on the team messed up late game or uber fed early.

simply said, if you want to try and counter argue. I can and will argue back with better examples go ahead and downvote now

its just what im logged into at the momunt bcause of the watch rewards for lol esports i literily makes no difference what account slmeone is logged into but uou seem to have an issue with it lmfao

MrFawknSunshineJul 2, 20191 votes

i really dont see much difference in lux 'mage" and lux "support"

most build near pure ap the only difference is one gets item 3303 and wards a bit more

CoolKnightSTJul 2, 20191 votes

Can't wait till the Aftershock & Athene's nerfs and hear the ballance team reponse after this.

Almost a month ago I recommanded players to stop playing TahmKench Pyke & Lux . I knewn this would happen. Can we have a date for the Aftershock & Athene's nerf. I want to turn it into a meme [sg-miss-fortune]