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Scarra's newest video echoes the thoughts of the boards for the past 6 months

OHminus··81 votes·14,917 views

Watch video, look at boards.

The complaints are almost exactly the same.

Coincidence? Hmmm....

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Kythers31 votes

"there's no finesse anymore"

that sums it up far better than anything else I've heard

Aram Mama 1 votes

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"there's no finesse anymore"

that sums it up far better than anything else I've heard

the game became burst festival

pseudo dionysius25 votes

It makes everything feel worse when his closing remark is "Go next".

poopchan19 votes

I like how he uses WoW as an example. Lets think about the person that hurt that game. Oh look IT'S THE SAME FUCKING GUY. I just stopped playing a few days ago and will come back when they fix the meta/fire THAT SAME GUY.

Pink her Ult1 votes

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I like how he uses WoW as an example. Lets think about the person that hurt that game. Oh look IT'S THE SAME FUCKING GUY. I just stopped playing a few days ago and will come back when they fix the meta/fire THAT SAME GUY.

WoW pvp has only gotten worse. Legion world pvp was strait up one shotting people.

Audhulma12 votes

I think Oddone basically gave up streaming league a while back. If I'm not mistaken he said something about not actually quitting, just that he's not sure when he'll feel like playing/streaming it again. But just the idea that a goofball like him is sick of things says a lot IMO.

PPPPPPPPPPPP2704 votes

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I think Oddone basically gave up streaming league a while back. If I'm not mistaken he said something about not actually quitting, just that he's not sure when he'll feel like playing/streaming it again. But just the idea that a goofball like him is sick of things says a lot IMO.

He's been League free for nearly 2 months. Dyrus tweeted he uninstalled League. All I know is most of the old TSM people don't play League or like League anymore. All Oddone does is play variety games and chat being weird like always.

Beacon Academy12 votes

Just watched it and then saw this post.

He looks so sad during the video :(

Rip Jared... He hasn't streamed for nearly a month I think... (Although he is playing, probably trying to climb so he feels like he is worth watching feelsbadman)

DNFVixen11 votes

The fix would be to revert the RunesReforged.

Ðeath XIII7 votes

I like how he brings up Aftershock Fiddlesticks

That should never exist tbh

Taimanin Irelia7 votes

Fire GC and Meddler.

That's the fix you're looking for here.

Ezking156 votes

Straight out I think we need to like do a Boards Protest Movement on the boards spam posting this video, demanding acknowledgment for what Scarra has said. #ScarraAwareness

Deathfall6 votes

A lot of players have been saying this for months. It's players like Scarra and other big names that will push for change though. It sucks we have to wait till next year to have things chained because of incompetency from Developers.

Akali is SO HOT5 votes

ur mum

Ezking152 votes

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ur mum

no way, it was actually her birthday 2 days ago.

OHminus2 votes

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ur mum

HahA yOu'rE sO fuNnY hAHa

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

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HahA yOu'rE sO fuNnY hAHa

I've been told

MOuHahaHAhahaaaa1 votes

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ur mum

Man do you even care about the state of the game or are you selfish enough to only care about your fucking akali which has been reworked to be op as fuck ?

Sexy Jack Rabbit5 votes

I really like Scarra.

I just wish he didn't go.

"Uuuh.. Mmm. Ahh." Before saying everything.

OHminus2 votes

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I really like Scarra.

I just wish he didn't go.

"Uuuh.. Mmm. Ahh." Before saying everything.

What can I say his brain is too big for his speech to follow

Rakvir5 votes

I believe Scarra is one of the most suited people to articulate these issues.

  1. Really damn good player but isn’t above self-criticizing far more than most would care to admit. Actually has an ongoing log of what he observed and needs to work on after each game.

  2. Much more even-tempered than most of us, even when subjected to immense griefing/trolling. I’ve seen him become quite visibly upset and you can see how it tilts him (usually stops interacting with chat and makes otherwise confusingly illogical, rushed decisions, for example) but it proves that, even under duress, he wants to rise above it all.

  3. He is a great medium to watch how the same problems that are stereotyped as concerns only for us lowly plebs actually persist in high elo and as time goes on, the subtle differences aren’t so subtle anymore, raising red flags that we weren’t complaining for no reason.

I don’t have the time to watch streamers as much as I’d like to so perhaps there will be extremes I’ve missed out on but I have a great amount of healthy respect for Scarra.

FreezerFlare5 votes

Crit/Crab Changes ruined Summoners Rift, and now their flopping around trying to balance the game around those changes instead of saying "we fucked up" and going back

OHminus1 votes

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Crit/Crab Changes ruined Summoners Rift, and now their flopping around trying to balance the game around those changes instead of saying "we fucked up" and going back

They were pretty bad but the scuttle changes didn't affect me as much as I thought. All I had to do was change my pathing a bit to get level 3 and then contest scuttle. It did fuck over all the junglers who can't do that specific path (because clear speed/clear health) Ivern Maokai Rammus Sejuani Zac

Thefrostyviking4 votes

"I am just waiting for next season because i think the current one is unfixable" .....Feels bad but it sums up my feels too.

The talk about the arms race between defense(aftershock,boneplating etc), offensive(electrolute, aery&poke) and sustain (resolve regen and fleet footwork).

I watched one of his earlier videos and i truly agree, the much higher options between durability, damage and sustain available from runes creates a arms race which forces things just as much as the earlier seasons did in terms of what to use for the best result.

Even more so at times.

Diversity is great but at what cost? Do we really need to have the things needed for Fiddle support to be generally viable in more matchups if it means tanks are 100% reliant on the same rune to barely function, they created options for others with the runes but made sure the core users are 100% reliant on them instead.

Keep tanks and other melee different from eachother by loading defensive power into their kits and away from the items? Wont this just make the others that much more squishy when faced with the damage carrise who are buffed to deal with the stronger tanks?Yes it does, and this actually happened.

Increase crit damage and burst to deal with increased burst and waveclear from other classes? This also happened with static shiv, and it became utterly absurd the moment tanks got nerfed.

I dont really think any of the old systems were that good, however the new one is a arms race and its really bad, power should mainly come from the champions and not the runes, i mean just look at Electrolute vs old Thunderlords.

Electrolute has a longer cooldown but higher damage and scaling, perfect for burst and the activation conditions are almost the same.

We have fricking assassins running around dealing 40% of a squishy targets health with items,runes and ignite before they even do anything with their kits or auto attacks.

Mages and fighters running around with insane max health ratios or just straight up true damage for others.

item 3147 item 3087 item 3095 all need to be removed, ridiculous ratios and anti tank tools needs to go like Fiora ´s passive&ulti, most of Brand passive, Malzahar is in need of a rework that doesnt enhance his previous cancerous qualities rather than remove them.

Conqueror needs to go and be replaced , new IE......is probably fine if nerfed slightly.

Aftershock needs to go, Sejuani passive also needs to be ditched because she is too reliant on it and its too powerful when she actually gets to use it.

Tanks needs some defensive power shifted from their kits to their items and possibly to compensate they could use some rabadon equivalent for resistances if you truly want to ensure it only kicks in later on.

item 3193 is probably balanced enough to be kept, needing to dive in and be surrounded for a full activation and the loss of damage are good conditions.

Runes overall could stand a shift from damage to utility or more conditions or possibility to outplay.

Like, DFG was removed for being free damage for doing what the users already did, so why does so much stuff now exist that do the same thing?

Utility and random weird effects are fine too, just not pure damage, durability or CC.

OHminus1 votes

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"I am just waiting for next season because i think the current one is unfixable" .....Feels bad but it sums up my feels too.

The talk about the arms race between defense(aftershock,boneplating etc), offensive(electrolute, aery&poke) and sustain (resolve regen and fleet footwork).

I watched one of his earlier videos and i truly agree, the much higher options between durability, damage and sustain available from runes creates a arms race which forces things just as much as the earlier seasons did in terms of what to use for the best result.

Even more so at times.

Diversity is great but at what cost? Do we really need to have the things needed for Fiddle support to be generally viable in more matchups if it means tanks are 100% reliant on the same rune to barely function, they created options for others with the runes but made sure the core users are 100% reliant on them instead.

Keep tanks and other melee different from eachother by loading defensive power into their kits and away from the items? Wont this just make the others that much more squishy when faced with the damage carrise who are buffed to deal with the stronger tanks?Yes it does, and this actually happened.

Increase crit damage and burst to deal with increased burst and waveclear from other classes? This also happened with static shiv, and it became utterly absurd the moment tanks got nerfed.

I dont really think any of the old systems were that good, however the new one is a arms race and its really bad, power should mainly come from the champions and not the runes, i mean just look at Electrolute vs old Thunderlords.

Electrolute has a longer cooldown but higher damage and scaling, perfect for burst and the activation conditions are almost the same.

We have fricking assassins running around dealing 40% of a squishy targets health with items,runes and ignite before they even do anything with their kits or auto attacks.

Mages and fighters running around with insane max health ratios or just straight up true damage for others.

item 3147 item 3087 item 3095 all need to be removed, ridiculous ratios and anti tank tools needs to go like Fiora ´s passive&ulti, most of Brand passive, Malzahar is in need of a rework that doesnt enhance his previous cancerous qualities rather than remove them.

Conqueror needs to go and be replaced , new IE......is probably fine if nerfed slightly.

Aftershock needs to go, Sejuani passive also needs to be ditched because she is too reliant on it and its too powerful when she actually gets to use it.

Tanks needs some defensive power shifted from their kits to their items and possibly to compensate they could use some rabadon equivalent for resistances if you truly want to ensure it only kicks in later on.

item 3193 is probably balanced enough to be kept, needing to dive in and be surrounded for a full activation and the loss of damage are good conditions.

Runes overall could stand a shift from damage to utility or more conditions or possibility to outplay.

Like, DFG was removed for being free damage for doing what the users already did, so why does so much stuff now exist that do the same thing?

Utility and random weird effects are fine too, just not pure damage, durability or CC.

The best thing about the old system was that it encouraged early game defensive option like flat armor and mr, something I feel is pretty desperately needed atm.

Thefrostyviking3 votes

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The best thing about the old system was that it encouraged early game defensive option like flat armor and mr, something I feel is pretty desperately needed atm.

The virtue of the old system was that while you could go balls to the walls on a offensive setup you didnt lose a ton by comparison by not doing so, you would be fragile but not like a clay vase, your could even chose to keep either the MR or the armor and ditch the other if you really wanted to have some extra offense but not be totally vulnerable.

Or keep both if facing a uphill struggle.

I personally liked the extra offense but keeping one defensive, so like if playing mid into AD i´d ditch the extra MR but keep some armor.

If facing old LB i´d keep the MR, ditch the armor and get even more MR, same for another difficult AP matchup really that might do powerful all ins or high poke.

Now? All i can get is some minimal defensive help that is actually possible to play around for her, i bascially have to hide under tower and even then it´s not really safe.

Electrolute deals more than thunderlord, ignite has been buffed, resistances lower.

Defensive options specialized for melee and even then conditional and situational.

It all just feels bad x)

Automated Riven4 votes

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The virtue of the old system was that while you could go balls to the walls on a offensive setup you didnt lose a ton by comparison by not doing so, you would be fragile but not like a clay vase, your could even chose to keep either the MR or the armor and ditch the other if you really wanted to have some extra offense but not be totally vulnerable.

Or keep both if facing a uphill struggle.

I personally liked the extra offense but keeping one defensive, so like if playing mid into AD i´d ditch the extra MR but keep some armor.

If facing old LB i´d keep the MR, ditch the armor and get even more MR, same for another difficult AP matchup really that might do powerful all ins or high poke.

Now? All i can get is some minimal defensive help that is actually possible to play around for her, i bascially have to hide under tower and even then it´s not really safe.

Electrolute deals more than thunderlord, ignite has been buffed, resistances lower.

Defensive options specialized for melee and even then conditional and situational.

It all just feels bad x)

Even the old keystone's were really bad. Even with the old mastery system. We need to go back to a time before any of that. The vanilla runes and masteries would make this game hella better.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

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Even the old keystone's were really bad. Even with the old mastery system. We need to go back to a time before any of that. The vanilla runes and masteries would make this game hella better.

Oldest masteries were kinda boring but at least not so unhealthy i think, the second system with thunderlord was fine IMO.

I honestly think a active keystone can be balanced and made to work just fine as long as it isnt just something pure like damage, resistance stats or something that impacts those like gold generation or such.

Vanilia runes? If you mean the ones we had from basically the start until this new system then sure.

But the new system wasnt all that bad, i dont remember all the names but things that provided minion clearing, movespeed, the slowlying scaling things, Barrier for standing ontop of a teammate when taking damage and a lot of stuff from the inspiration tree are pretty cool stuff that appeared with the new runes/masteries.

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

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The best thing about the old system was that it encouraged early game defensive option like flat armor and mr, something I feel is pretty desperately needed atm.

The difference is it wasn't really an "option". Go ahead and not take armor yellows against an AD lane. Or in the jungle for that matter. You weren't going to have a good time.

Ezking152 votes

Scarra is bae.

Tesladin2 votes

Typically Im not on this bandwagon, but may be something did happen to the game because I'm finding like he said - I'm just not playing, not thinking of reinstalling as much as other games, unlike ~3-5 seasons ago.

PaffWasTaken2 votes

Incoming: people who say that the boards "are a secluded part of the community who shouldn't be taken seriously"

To be honest, anyone claiming that we should ignore that the vast majority of the community likes the game less and less makes me really sick... We are yelling at Riot for serious changes, but because of those few guys who like maining broken champs or just plainly be able to oneshot anyone with anything, we are getting ignored and pushed to the side instead of those people who enjoy an unbalanced game who's getting more and more plain...

CLG ear1 votes

does this video have a lot of obnoxious editing / zooming in on the camera? I want to avoid that bull shit before watching it

OHminus1 votes

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does this video have a lot of obnoxious editing / zooming in on the camera? I want to avoid that bull shit before watching it

not really. It's just Scarra talking through the entire thing, minimal editing.

CLG ear1 votes

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not really. It's just Scarra talking through the entire thing, minimal editing.

ok good thx

DrCyanide1 votes

[{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1EmP55X1,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-07-31T13:01:12.929+0000)

does this video have a lot of obnoxious editing / zooming in on the camera? I want to avoid that bull shit before watching it

No, the only odd editing thing was at the very end before it transitioned to the sub/like page at the end of the video.

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø1 votes

[{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1EmP55X1,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-07-31T13:01:12.929+0000)

does this video have a lot of obnoxious editing / zooming in on the camera? I want to avoid that bull shit before watching it

no

The Highest Noon1 votes

I stopped watching at like 5 minutes because up to that point his complaints were "I make mistakes but still" and things that ignore the counter-play items that exist. That, and it boiled down to "I don't like how Riot decided to make their game." That's in regards to it being "fast-paced" which is their voiced design model as of Season 7-8.

dapositiveviking1 votes

does scarr echo the boards or do the boards echo scarra thinkingface

Yordle Xayah1 votes

Maybe Ghostcrawler or Meddler will finally address the topics... only when pros/ex-pros make videos it seems to get their attention [sg-poppy]

FixHealsRemoveGW1 votes

I don't care about echoes. Would be nice to see some attempts of proving ones opinions around here instead of more guesses and "i feel like" arguments.

Douglas Funnie1 votes

6 months? League has been shit since PRE-SEASON 8 that started on November 8, 2017.

That's 22997297 seconds

That's 383288 minutes

That's 6388 hours

That's 266 days.

That's roughly 9 months of pure shit.

Riot refuses to flush the toilet. They have cemented a flag on top of the iceberg turd that has been building up since preseason, folks. I'm sure they're proud of it, too.

MetaCosmos1 votes

He needs to clean his glasses. Can't focus because of all the grease.

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