So Whats the Outplay to Rengar?

BrightWîngs·Jun 25, 2018·4 votes·1,492 views

No I'm not here to baby rage I genuinely want to know how to counter or in better words not die instantly before I can blink while playing against as an ADC I cant use because his leap will still go though I cant because my health bar is already gone doesn't give me nearly enough armor to live I still die but just get revived and that has a 300 second CD then there is also but the issue with this is that I need to actually hit him first which is nearly impossible the only thing I can think of that will help is but I don't know how effective that will really be never really tried it its not a typical ADC item ill be sure to try this out next time but I also would like advice from people

thank you in advance :)

21 Comments

Doc StrangeJun 25, 20183 votes

Rengar main here, Have your allied jungler invade him at the start of the game, rengar is really useless until 6. And Stay by your support, rengar doesnt like enemies with buddies

BrightWîngsJun 25, 20182 votes

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Rengar main here, Have your allied jungler invade him at the start of the game, rengar is really useless until 6. And Stay by your support, rengar doesnt like enemies with buddies

but what if my support its someone like Blitzcrank or Leona unless they are a god they cant really stop him from killing me (not trying to argue)

ZackTheWaffleManJun 25, 20181 votes

If they're literal gods, they can hook/CC him while he's leaping.

HalcyonDwellerJun 25, 20181 votes

Attack-move takes a lot of the difficulty out of it. As long as no other enemies are within range then they just have to stay close to you.

HalcyonDwellerJun 25, 20181 votes

Actually with Blitz and Leona they can just stand on top of you, activate E(blitz) or Q(Leo) and use the attack-move command to circle you. As soon as rengar becomes visible they will cc him and you can then turn on him with their help. So long as you're not near any bushes the Rengar will have no further way to get to you (except flash) and you can kite him until hes dead.

BrightWîngsJun 25, 20181 votes

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Actually with Blitz and Leona they can just stand on top of you, activate E(blitz) or Q(Leo) and use the attack-move command to circle you. As soon as rengar becomes visible they will cc him and you can then turn on him with their help. So long as you're not near any bushes the Rengar will have no further way to get to you (except flash) and you can kite him until hes dead.

but isnt his combo basically instant I feel by the time the blitz E goes through ill already be dead his Q does do like 1000 physical damage and if he gets item 3095 his leap will do even more because of its passive

HalcyonDwellerJun 26, 20181 votes

Not quite instant, attack move is faster than a Rengar player's ability to smash Q to auto-attack reset. He may get some of his damage off, but it won't all go off without a hitch.

Also those supports can build item 3109 Knignt's Vow and item 3190 Locket of the Iron Solari to help protect you from the initial burst damage.

Emmy Cha0sJun 26, 20182 votes

There are no counters to Rengar, outside of just banning him every single game. His kit is the least-balanced in the game; not the least-balanceable mind you, I can think of several others that are worse. However, being 1-shot, regardless of your item choices or champion pick (I've seen a 4-armor-item Malphite get 1-shot from 110% HP before,) just for leaving the home pad while there's a level 6+ Rengar in the game is one of the most anti-fun aspects of League.

My answer has been to ban him every single game, like I said above. So far it's worked for me over these past multiple years. shrug

GhazterJun 25, 20181 votes

...Don't play typical ADC's that aren't meta :3

Rengar is a champion that lives on squishies. If you could counter him easily, he wouldn't be viable. I think getting around him depends mostly on the champion that you play, and above all else, make sure to GROUP UP. At least then he'll die, even if you do too.

BrightWîngsJun 25, 20181 votes

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...Don't play typical ADC's that aren't meta :3

Rengar is a champion that lives on squishies. If you could counter him easily, he wouldn't be viable. I think getting around him depends mostly on the champion that you play, and above all else, make sure to GROUP UP. At least then he'll die, even if you do too.

sadly I know but I'm not gonna have any sort of fun playing this game if I am restricted to champs I dont even want to play I just want the BEST course of action to not die instantly and still play what I want to play I know its his job to kill me fast but I cant help but think there's NOTHING I can do

KelgJun 25, 20181 votes

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sadly I know but I'm not gonna have any sort of fun playing this game if I am restricted to champs I dont even want to play I just want the BEST course of action to not die instantly and still play what I want to play I know its his job to kill me fast but I cant help but think there's NOTHING I can do

Just play whatever champ you like and find a way to make it work. There is no champ in this game that you can't do good with if you try hard enough. Mordekaiser has been shit tier for most of his existance, and just recently became viable, but I've been maining him since season 2 because I like him.

SlythionJun 25, 20181 votes

There's a difference between being shit-tier and being unpopular. There have been several consistent master-challenger Morde Mains through the years

GhazterJun 25, 20181 votes

I mean, unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that. I'm constantly finding that I can't play champs I like just because they are terrible now.

AlienPrimateJun 25, 20181 votes

item 3025

Elkington VIJun 25, 20181 votes

Adcs typically have the least amount of options when it comes to outplaying, as they're designed to be glass cannons with team comps built around them.

If you must play adc, I would suggest playing the more self-sufficient ones like Graves, Ezreal, and Vayne. It's still not easy, but they have it easier than most when it comes to dealing with assassins and divers.

Outside of adcs, other classes generally have tools for dealing with champs like Rengar.

ZackTheWaffleManJun 25, 20181 votes

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adc […] Graves

Wait, is ADC Graves viable?

Elkington VIJun 25, 20181 votes

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Wait, is ADC Graves viable?

Graves can carry from the jungle. He tends to outscale most of the low-utility picks, and can outduel a fair amount of them after picking up his first damage item.

HalcyonDwellerJun 25, 20181 votes

Also Kai'Sa once she gets her stealth can handle assassins like Rengar fairly well too.

HalcyonDwellerJun 25, 20181 votes

Unfortunately for you, assassins are supposed to counter marksmen. If you want to counter them, you're going to have to stay near teammates who can peel for you and/or turn on that assassin when they try to dive onto you.

It's not the marksman's job to counter assassins, it's the support's job.

Its All SkillzzJun 26, 20181 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN-AMtj2glk Kill him before he kills you.

BrightWîngsJun 26, 20182 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN-AMtj2glk Kill him before he kills you.

Thing is if they was legit any other champ than ezreal they probably would be fucked