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Guys...we already don't have any Mana Regen

Wînter Fox··2 votes·359 views

What is everyone so fearful of? There's really only two Mage items available (besides Doran's) for any Mage to get Mana Regen - item 3174 item 3165

Doran's Ring is staying the same, and these two items' mana regen were already gutted with the percentage changes. 100% base mana regen is abysmal. You can cast one more spell what, every minute? And Unholy grail kicks in when you're already out of mana. We're already mana starved as is on live, and have been for a long time.

Riot's new changes is just the other half of what they've already started. They've finally giving us much needed mana and CDR on way more items. We can actually pick and choose what we want to build and not just be stuck with nomnomnomicon as a required rush for every single Mage. How in the world is this anything but good?

Open your eyes. Mana Regen is already dead. Once you realize that, introducing Mana on items is very much a welcome change.

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Sona Ping1 votes

Because the champions who have those two mana regeneration items always is because they have long cooldowns and high mana costs which encourages they itemize for their resource and means they don't work well with flat mana and can't stack a Tear.

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100% base mana regen is abysmal. You can cast one more spell what, every minute? And Unholy grail kicks in when you're already out of mana. We're already mana starved as is on live, and have been for a long time. .... Open your eyes. Mana Regen is already dead. Once you realize that, introducing Mana on items is very much a welcome change.

It's fortunate, because as this about mana regeneration and mana costs, this issue is empirical and we can accurately understand the entire issue with a bit of math. Mages, like Xerath , Viktor, etc., usually have 6mp5 base regen and a 0.8 growth coefficient which means that at Level 5 they have a mana regen of 8.5 or 102 mana and champions like Xerath, Lux, Viktor, etc. spells cost 100 mana. So (setting aside the fact that is not how Athene's works):

Yes, item 3165 gives you one extra spell per minute.

...At Level 5. Meanwhile the proposed Morellonomicon gives 400 mana which is four spells. So to compare, Current Morellonomicon gives 4 free spells every 4 minutes, while the proposed Morellonomicon gives 4 spells and then becomes completely worthless from a resource standpoint until the next time you have to base.

After Level 5, Mana regen goes up every level until it exceeds even twice this amount which means current item 3165's performance like wise goes up even more and mana costs go up as well which means the proposed Morello's is worth even less, not even 4 spells worth.

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