Morellonomicon: Our Lord and Savior

Wînter Fox·Jan 15, 2015·86 votes·8,688 views

* A reading from the book of the prophet Morello *

And in the last day, for Riot said unto them: The Grasp of Death's fire shall be no more! In the wake of its demise, the people of magic cried: how shalt we itemize for both CDR and AP? Then answered them the shop keeper; I bestow unto thee the one and only option for your woes - the gospel of the prophet himself - The Morellonomicon. And the people believed. Henceforth all men must devote themselves to one item, and one item only, if they desire both AP and CDR.

Morello 1:14

61 Comments

RiotRiot SweetJan 15, 201543 votes

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ThryaleJan 15, 20152 votes

yer imgur upvotes are the wrong color...

RebonackJan 15, 201510 votes

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yer imgur upvotes are the wrong color...

That's because they're Reddit upvotes. Orange/Blue vs Green/Red.

Also: Does anyone else think it's incredibly redundant to have two 20% CDR AP/Manaregen items? Why not remake Grail into a Tank item ( item 3028 + item 3024 + item 3067 ) and then replace Blasting Wand with Codex in Abyssal Scepter's build, give the completed item 20% CDR, and let that be the MR/AP/CDR item for Mages?

Want CDR, AP, and mana regen? Get Morello's.

Want CDR, mana regen, and defense? Get Grail.

Want CDR, AP, and magic resist? Get Abyssal.

If items do the same thing then people are just going to pick the best one.

5G8Nri0B54Jan 15, 201513 votes

Some mages rely on Chalice's superior pre-nerf mana regen to survive...Some champions had to watch their mana even when they had Chalice pre-4.21

Turning it into a Tank item isn't going to solve anything for them.

Hilltop SunsetJan 15, 201512 votes

Well they're going to have to do SOMETHING to chalice to make it more appealing, because as it stands right now, pretty much everyone agrees that it never offers a better option than morello now that the mana regen is basically equal between the two, even after the grail buff. The problem is that the grail now functions based on maximum mana, which means you need to build some mana before it will outperform the morellonomicon, which defeats the purpose of the chalice as an early-game mana resolution. Now if you build it early, it's useless, and by the time you get to late game you don't need half the stats it gives you anymore. And lots of AP champs favor damage over mana anyway, so they don't build tear/RoA to build their mana pool to any significant amount; they just want the mana regen, and that's where item 3165 outshines.

InsaneSamuraiJan 16, 20151 votes

Yes this. It already hurts enough to devote one item to mana(especially if your enemy doesn't have to), needing two is just harsh.

RebonackJan 15, 20155 votes

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Some mages rely on Chalice's superior pre-nerf mana regen to survive...Some champions had to watch their mana even when they had Chalice pre-4.21

Turning it into a Tank item isn't going to solve anything for them.

Axe the healing reduction on Morello's and give it mana recovery whenever you hit a champion with a spell. Give MOAR when you kill one.

New Tank Grail gives mana regen for you taking damage from large monsters and champions.

Done and done.

NinjaToad99Jan 16, 20153 votes

I think it might be nice to have Grail be better at mana regeneration then morello, but have less damage and not having grievous wounds.

YOU BEEN WARNEDJan 16, 20151 votes

I just wish item 3174 's would actually solve mana regen issues. item 3028 's mana regen & MR were nerfed, if 's won't grant more MR then it should grant more mana regeneration. The item feels really bad to purchase. :(

InsaneSamuraiJan 16, 20151 votes

Is grail better than anything at... anything anymore?

5G8Nri0B54Jan 16, 20153 votes

Well...Galio.

But hes been nerfed directly and indirectly every single patch for the last 2 years...

InsaneSamuraiJan 16, 20151 votes

Galio! I miss that guy :)

5G8Nri0B54Jan 17, 20153 votes

As his former main, you don't miss him nearly as much as I do.

InsaneSamuraiJan 17, 20151 votes

Sad props :)

NiirhoJan 17, 20151 votes

Out of curiosity, why don't you play him anymore (assuming that's what you meant)? I play him top and mid very frequently, with good results.

5G8Nri0B54Jan 17, 20151 votes

Quite frankly, he' just inferior after nerfs after nerfs after indirect nerfs after indirect nerfs.

There was the first set of pre-emptive nerfs when Riot stupidly thought he'd be OP just because the meta started seeing dual AP long LONG ago.

After that, it's been nothing but one ufcking indirect nerf after another.

MR rune nerfs = &U@%'s Galio harder than anyone else MR itemization nerfs = same as above The rework to Penetration = MASSIVE nerf to all tanks REMOVAL of several expensive MR items = Galio gets focked Repeated nerfs to Athene's = Galio's core item nerfed repeatedly, while all champions that uses it is considered nerfed for it, Galio is hit harder Riot constantly adding more and MORE ways for enemy to easily interrupt his R with each rework and new champion Recent mana itemization nerfs = yeah

In the end...Galio just received thousands of nerfs. Yeah, many of them hit other champions too. But one thing to remember here is that all those nerfs...hits Galio WAY harder than it his all other champions.

And that is all atop the unnecessary nerf he first directly received.

Not only is he a tank not named Mundo or Maokai, he's had way more indirect nerfs than any other champion in the game.

aaronconlinJan 17, 20151 votes

I just recently started playing Galio mid and support, he's pretty fun, especially since the buff to his ult making it unaffected by tenacity.

Wînter FoxJan 15, 201540 votes

And never sip upon the Unholy Grail! item 3174

gubigubiJan 15, 20157 votes

Cast down the drink of darkness oh mid laners. Dont let the % mana regen of the item 3174 fool you! This is an evil item. So sayith the great item 3165

AlljoyJan 15, 201517 votes

Amen. Malzahar

iainB85Jan 15, 201514 votes

When rushing double item 3165 is becoming a common place build for many AP champions because item 3028 was over nerfed, clearly the answer is to remove item 3128 .

Riot's "kick 'em while they're down" strategy at its finest. Trundle

lorewiseJan 15, 20157 votes

Verily the tome spoke:

"Do not gaze into the abyss, item 3001 * for the abyss stares back. And when hunting monsters, do not stray far from center, less ye become one."* summoner 11

DiostukosJan 15, 20154 votes

item 3070 Soraka Sona Swain Akali Aatrox

SammystormJan 15, 20152 votes

item 3070 DrMundo

Grand ElevenJan 16, 20152 votes

Cassiopeia ...

His LordshipJan 15, 20154 votes

FAITH IN THE MORELLO!{{summoner:17}}

Keon KamoriJan 15, 20154 votes

Should have been from Morello 5:1

MiracleSpireJan 15, 201513 votes

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Should have been from Morello 5:2

ftfy

Samflash3Jan 16, 20151 votes

Umm... I don't get it.

10 hours later.....

Lol I just got the joke. +1

UltîmaJan 15, 20154 votes

Chalice should be the mana-regeneration item of the game, while Morello should perhaps be thrown into a more utilitarian position so that the two items cease competing for real-estate in mage builds. Basically, Chalice should give a lot more regen then it does now, Athene's should preserve its passive however the CDR should perhaps be reduced so that Morello becomes the go-to item for Champions who rely heavily on spamming. Instead of filling the same niche, the items would instead become complimentary; voilà, you suddenly make both items relevant.

On the flip-side, the offensive values of Morello vastly overshadow the utility of Athene's. I seriously hope that Riot doesn't follow their own mantra and nerf Morello into oblivion and rather look for solutions to make Athene's the prime mana-regen item over the double-Morello strategy.

GaleWinUnleashedJan 15, 20155 votes

I like the idea of shifting Morello toward being the CDR item.

I think it might be a good idea to raise Athene's to 80 AP, because nobody wants anything lower than that in their final build (except on Void Staff, cuz Void Staff). Also drop 10% of its CDR in order to buff the regen passive past Morello's. Overall stat change, when comparing Morello's to Athene's:

Same AP, at 80
20% CDR compared to 10%
100% regen compared to [appropriate regen passive buff to make it much more appealing for regen]
0 MR compared to 25
Grievous Wounds passive compared to not having it

Probably makes Athene's too powerful in comparison, but it's a step on the way to making Morello's the offense item and Athene's the defense item without having Athene's be obsolete.

Or leave the AP the same as it is currently, nerf Morello's mana regen, buff Athene's regen passive, and nerf Athene's CDR by 10%. With the right regen numbers, that could make Morello's the item for aggressively forcing your opponent out of lane, but at the cost of having low regen, while Athene's could be the lane-sustain item at the cost of less damage and slower spell rotations.

Fires of JusticeJan 15, 20153 votes

Logged in just to upvote. Praise be.

Chromatic EagleJan 15, 20152 votes

So what does Katarina build as a replacement?

Jungle Lux GodJan 15, 20152 votes

AP items that aren't DFG.

Chromatic EagleJan 15, 20151 votes

Like what? Hextech? I'm asking since don't most AP items come with mana?

Jungle Lux GodJan 16, 20152 votes

Even though most AP items come with either mana or mana regen, there are still plenty of items that don't have either and are still good, such as Rabadon's, Zhonya's, Abyssal Scepter, Rylai's, Liandry's (not the best choice, but still acceptable), Hextech Gunblade, Void Staff, and Twin Shadows. In addition, Lich Bane could also be useful even though it has mana, while Nashor's Tooth could be an option if you want something gimmicky.

foristJan 15, 20153 votes

Try this build:

item 3020 , item 3116 , item 3151 , item 3089 , item 3135 , item 3157

Substitute items: item 3152 and item 3146

DedriusJan 16, 20152 votes

That isn't a very good build for Kat, she is a Burst Mage not a Battle Mage who's goal is to constantly dish out DPS.

GaleWinUnleashedJan 15, 20152 votes

item 3020 item 3165 item 3089 item 3135 item 3157 Just like literally every single other mage on the rift right now. =P

/sarcasm

But seriously "i am theboxghost" has the right build.

Chromatic EagleJan 15, 20152 votes

Well I did see Wingsofdeath build Haunting Shadows on Kat. Worked well enough for him.

Samflash3Jan 16, 20151 votes

Yeah Spooky shadows on Kat works.

BITE ZA DUSTOJan 15, 20152 votes

Praise the glorious Morello

StatikinJan 15, 20152 votes

This is my favourite item. I know... Kill me now

ChrisB5Jan 16, 20152 votes

I mean there are plenty of CDR items with AP but chalice and morell are definitely your best choices here. Really comes down to... moar AP, or MR?

Sara LeahJan 16, 20152 votes

while the MAJORITY seem to prefer item 3165 over item 3174 I have tried both as the ONLY mana regen item on Lux and Annie as both support and solo laner to see which is better and found to be better in this area.

the book is good vs regen champs but the cup is much better at restoring mana when you go oom. the % missing makes it much better to me anyway as a result.

"but the book gives 100% base vs 50% base therefor it is better..." not for my test it failed to replenish a oom lux in time to use a snare, slow or ult while the 50% cup with +2% missing mana achieved this several times.

So is one better than the other? Not in my opinion they are both very good items and are fine as is.

If you want the best of both get them both otherwise get the one that works best for you with the champ you are using ie.. the cup works best for me on lux/nami whos skills make me go oom a lot while the book works well for me on annie who I rarely have oom problems with.

UltîmaJan 16, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sara Leah,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M8gJAF7b,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2015-01-16T18:57:25.215+0000)

while the MAJORITY seem to prefer over I have tried both as the ONLY mana regen item on and as both support and solo laner to see which is better and found to be better in this area.

the book is good vs regen champs but the cup is much better at restoring mana when you go oom. the % missing makes it much better to me anyway as a result.

"but the book gives 100% base vs 50% base therefor it is better..." not for my test it failed to replenish a oom lux in time to use a snare, slow or ult while the 50% cup with +2% missing mana achieved this several times.

So is one better than the other? Not in my opinion they are both very good items and are fine as is.

If you want the best of both get them both otherwise get the one that works best for you with the champ you are using ie.. the cup works best for me on lux/nami whos skills make me go oom a lot while the book works well for me on annie who I rarely have oom problems with.

While you may be correct, the mana-regen difference is so small that most casters might be better off taking the offensive utility of Morello over Chalice. Being able to stop healing is only increasingly more efficient as more characters are being pumped out with means to restore lost HP (Zac, Aatrox, Rek'Sai). Having the same base regen as Morello as well as its 2% passive might actually make Chalice a lot more attractive for mana-hungry champions, while not overshadowing Morello's usefulness.

InsaneSamuraiJan 16, 20151 votes

When every mid is buying this, I feel like they took too many mage options away.

Also nerfing everything else to the point it has gotten without adding viable options is hurting things. Now every champ that heals is somewhat less useful because if there's an AP mid, he's probably buying this.