If not liking playing support is your reason for wanting zyra mid, then you have no case.

Professor Ward··1 votes·243 views

I would love to play skarner and maokai support at top efficiency, but its just not how it works.... Just because i prefer support doesnt mean these champs need to be 100% viable there.

I still havent heard a good case for why she needs to be mid, she outperforms as a support in almost every way possible, especially considering that only brand even comes near her in terms of damage at the role, and doesnt even touch her utility by half.

Things i hear that are utter bullshit

  • "Most of Zyras damage comes from her plants"

Purely wrong, zyra has little to no kill potential with plants alone, most of her effecient damage comes from instant burst. From a e, q, ult, with a double seed drop added for the sugar on top. ** 85% of her damage will have been dealt and there is no reason for her plants to be unkillable after she has already decimated you without them.** Plants should be treated as a poke and PEEL TOOL ** Not your main source of damage.**

  • "Zyras plants die too quickly"

Again pure bologna. You are relying on them too heavily, or placing them poorly, or both. If her plants being killed is killing your game, you are again playing her wrong.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE buff zyra some more.... But honestly she doesnt need it and it will end up worse than it is now.

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Psyrix2 votes

The reason people want Zyra to be able to mid is because she was originally a midlaner, she got pigeonholed to support cuz some of the community realized she was busted down there and riot decided to balance her pretty much solely for support, without much consideration as to those who loved playing her mid. You’re likely misreading the true intention of what people are trying to get at, they don’t want to remove herbpresence from support entirely, they just want to give her the tools so she’s balanced in both lanes. The recent changes to mage items left her in a slightly wounded spot, as such she’s underperforming even more.

FlyingRoboticCow1 votes

the reason brand is the one closest in damage to her is because he's a midlaner that people just happen to play as a supp. If you don't want her in mid then don't play her in mid if you don't want teammates playing her mid then ban her everygame

Professor Ward1 votes

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the reason brand is the one closest in damage to her is because he's a midlaner that people just happen to play as a supp. If you don't want her in mid then don't play her in mid if you don't want teammates playing her mid then ban her everygame

I understand that, thats why i stated that brand doesnt offer nearly the same utility she does, i dont care where you play her, i just want to know why the consensus is that she needs to be mid.

FlyingRoboticCow1 votes

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I understand that, thats why i stated that brand doesnt offer nearly the same utility she does, i dont care where you play her, i just want to know why the consensus is that she needs to be mid.

when did that become the consensus?

Professor Ward1 votes

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when did that become the consensus?

its literally posted here daily, to the point where, "how to make zyra mid without buffing her support stats" is the new daily post. Also most high tier zyra mains post here quite often about how she is useless mid now.

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