Villain mechanic in a nutshell

Rexxiee·Aug 21, 2018·2 votes·1,831 views

https://clips.twitch.tv/AntediluvianTrappedHareWOOP

Very reasonable indeed.

Seriously though, they should just completely remove it, then see where garen lands after it.

18 Comments

Sona PingAug 21, 20184 votes

Watching that, someone might see that Villain is too strong a mechanic, someone else might see that Jax needs a buff, someone else might just see a close fight. I'll tell you what I saw.

I saw two melee fighter champions, both starting level 6, and the one with less combat stats, less health, decided to fight the other in their minion wave without his ultimate ability available and lost by a sliver of health. Even though Jax fought the Garen without his ultimate and just barely lost, the streamer believes that Garen is actually the champion who is unreasonable and should be changed because of this pay.

Someone else may look at the clip and think Garen's ult being converted to True Damage is a dumb mechanic and think it should be removed because True Damage is strong, it ignores resistances. But here, Jax doesn't have resistance items and he doesn't have resistances from his Ult because Jax chose to fight when it's on cooldown and Garen's ult is available. So the question becomes would Jax sill have lost? The math says that he still would have because that is how this decision turns out, that's how bad this play is

So now what? Do we nerf Garen to make sure that Jax beats Garen, even when Garen ults, even when Jax doesn't have an ultimate at all?

Madsin25Aug 21, 20183 votes

He won that 100% off the silence.

Keep the true damage, remove the silence.

Doge2020Aug 21, 20187 votes

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He won that 100% off the silence.

Keep the true damage, remove the silence.

Then they would have to add some other form of CC for Garen. Without the silence he becomes absolutely useless.

Madsin25Aug 21, 20184 votes

He is a juggernaut.(a manaless juggernaut at that)

He has extreme damage and extreme tankiness. He is similar to nasus the key difference is garen has a speed up and nasus has a slow.

Why does he need a silence?

DrCyanideAug 21, 20183 votes

So he's not just a worse Nasus?

I don't think I've ever played Garen. If anything I'm usually the mage that he gets on top of and silences. He should keep the silence.

Madsin25Aug 21, 20181 votes

Nasus is a worse garen. Slows are so much easier to counter than speed ups.

Removing the silence might be a little extreme so maybe just revert the last Q buff and ill be happy.

ZephyrDrakeAug 21, 20182 votes

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Nasus is a worse garen. Slows are so much easier to counter than speed ups.

Removing the silence might be a little extreme so maybe just revert the last Q buff and ill be happy.

what? speed ups are the easiest thing in the game to get rid off. Unless you are Master Yi any slow that comes at you instantly negates any amount of MS boost you get

Madsin25Aug 21, 20181 votes

Ok maybe worded that wrong.

Nasus slow is a hell of a lot easier to counter than garens speed up.