So i never understood mage/melee matchups

Succubús GF·Apr 14, 2016·1 votes·302 views

Usually one would think, maybe mages get the upper hand from being far away from the melee champion. Unless fighting yasuo, because a million dashes. Balanced, amirite? But i digress, i find that riot compensates melee champions with the ability to get in someone's face to do something. However, where is mage compensation to even it out? Oh i see yasuo charging at me so im just going to stun him and run away now. Like that doesn't even sound fair. Just to be unbiased I will use another example. Yi receives an ult that literally you press r and go across the map , cough anyone? Countless times i see mages lose because they have cooldowns and are too immobile to get out of the way. Is it possible to just buff them in a way to fix that?

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Clutch ThompsonApr 14, 20161 votes

While yasuo does do well vs mages, he also does poorly vs fighters. So yeah, he doesn't have your typical strength/weakness allocation, but imo he's balanced. I noticed that master yi and xin ganks get yasuo killed easily, mordekaiser shuts down his lane phase, heimer shuts down his lane phase, jax gank can end him etc.

Succubús GFApr 14, 20161 votes

It is my opinion that he does a little TOO well against mages, I actually see very few that can burst him down fast enough. Ganks shouldn't feel necessary to fight him. Plus, fighters belong in top lane, which is why he stays mid and I am too awful with fighters to even try to counter pick that. So i just go annie and hope for the best

ModWulf HelhammerApr 14, 20162 votes

No role belongs in any lane. It's that kind of thinking that forces and ingrained meta and gets anyone who does differently flamed

Succubús GFApr 14, 20161 votes

For having an unfair advantage? Certain champions were MADE for a lane. Abusing that is just unfair for the game.

Clutch ThompsonApr 14, 20161 votes

don't be afraid to call for a lane swap. have your fat top laner fight yas and you can abuse your range vs the enemy top laner. And you are right; ganking shouldnt be "necessary" but in yas's case he's different. why? because yas is VERY easy to gank. He's constantly dashing and finds him self over extended. combined with his squishyness, he blows up during ganks and is easy to use to feed a jungler.

He shouldn't be nerfed for countering meta (mages) mids; people should adapt to spice things up.

Succubús GFApr 14, 20162 votes

No no, I never said nerf. Personally speaking, there are champions that do well against him that I can use. I was simply stating for mages. This wasn't a nerf yasuo thread, it was a buff mages thread xD

Clutch ThompsonApr 15, 20161 votes

Oh isee, Definitely buff mages tho. between oom, cooldown, squishiness, and no good alternative to life steal; theyre in such a bad place

AsphodelNextApr 14, 20161 votes

Yes. But then someone will make a post about how it's impossible to shut down mages because even after they blow all their cooldowns, they're still impossible to catch.

Succubús GFApr 14, 20161 votes

I mean really though, show mages some love. They just get slammed with nerfs and back line

AlwaysByMySideApr 14, 20161 votes

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Usually one would think, maybe mages get the upper hand from being far away from the melee champion. Unless fighting yasuo, because a million dashes. Balanced, amirite? But i digress, i find that riot compensates melee champions with the ability to get in someone's face to do something. However, where is mage compensation to even it out? Oh i see yasuo charging at me so im just going to stun him and run away now. Like that doesn't even sound fair. Just to be unbiased I will use another example. Yi receives an ult that literally you press r and go across the map , cough anyone? Countless times i see mages lose because they have cooldowns and are too immobile to get out of the way. Is it possible to just buff them in a way to fix that?

The mage compensation is in their range and utility, and even then many mages have lots of tools to keep that from happening.

Do you know what happens to a punk bitch ass Yasuo that tries to dash into Annie's face? He has a fat fucking bear dropped on his head and is killed instantaneously if he didn't buy any MR.

Malzahar can also easily beat Yasuo in an all-in. Some mages, like Lux, are so long ranged even Yas has trouble getting to them if he doesn't land a tornado and use his ult.

Also, you see you say mages lose. Lose what? A duel? Good. Mages should for the most part lose almost every 1v1 with a fighter.

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Middle

Mages are doing fine.