Ezreal can't kill tanks. thats why hes not good in this meta of team fighting diving tanks.

RankOneUganda·Jul 31, 2017·19 votes·4,374 views

pretty much the title. the Q cd didn't do anything

the winrate is still the same.

ezreal cannot kill tanks. he does no fucking damage to tanks mid or late game unless hes fed (goes to every thing in league of legends and is just a basic fact)

give him some damn way to have higher dps against health/armor stacking targets. his Q does less damage than an aa crit late game. which is not fine for an adc that is garbage in lane.

EVEN JHIN. the adc that is weak vs tanks. has a missing health crit so at least. he can situationally hurt tanks. ezreal has nothing

53 Comments

Big LincolnJul 31, 201729 votes

not everybody needs to be a tank killer

RankOneUgandaJul 31, 20173 votes

an adc does. because thats what they are there for.

LankPantsJul 31, 201714 votes

Ezreal's not there for the same reason as every other ADC though. It's kinda like when you run Zigg's bot, you cede some tank killing potential and trade it for something else, in Zigg's case tower destruction and poke, in Ez's case poke and safety.

rtbf221651412Jul 31, 20176 votes

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an adc does. because thats what they are there for.

Vayne Twitch KogMaw are not a representation of the entire ADC lineup.

DubshokaJul 31, 20173 votes

What aren't marksmen for?

Pierce The VealJul 31, 20173 votes

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What aren't marksmen for?

Exactly!

They should do what assassins, mages, fighters, AND tanks do!

kasfasJul 31, 20171 votes

They are there to do persistent dps, NOT to kill tanks. Calling out the difference here is important because one means sustained damage, and one means % hp damage. We have champs who deal % hp damage, and an item that does too, in addition to an item that makes you do more damage to people who build defensive items (stupid design imo) and on ezreal have a rediculoisly good option for kiting in IBG.

LankPantsJul 31, 201715 votes

What power are you going to give up for tank killing ability? Because no other ADC has the same sort of range and mobility that Ezreal boasts, simply letting him deal with his main counter would certainly break him.

For Ezreal to gain tank busting potential he'd have to lose some of his safety, you'd need to make him deal less damage when sitting back and Qing or make his E less reliable. If one of these things was done to Ezreal then you could justify letting him be more effective against tanks, as it stands the strengths of his kit would just be too absurd if he was also good against tanks and render him pretty much unbalanceble.

LiteUpSketchersJul 31, 20171 votes

Jhins pretty ranged, just saying

LankPantsJul 31, 20173 votes

Jhin also has shitall tank killing ability, he's a little better than Ez, but he also lacks anything akin to Ez's E.

LadyRenlyJul 31, 20178 votes

item 3036 item 3153 ??

RankOneUgandaJul 31, 20175 votes

hes no kalista. ezreal does not build much attack speed. ezreal cannot stay in aa range forever with her passive like kalista.

also. if bork was such a good tank killer late game. we wouldn't see crit builds would we?

bork is good vs tanks early game. not late game. regardless. ezreal can't rush bork. he has to get tear and cd from triforce. he gets bork because nothing fits his kit. he can't build crit. he has no options

DisulfiramJul 31, 20175 votes

Doesn't he get item 3153 because it procs on his Qs too?

DaNinadJul 31, 20171 votes

getting 8% current health damage does help against tanks

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 31, 20178 votes

ez is bad cuz of his build path and how long it takes for him to reach a power curve vs leathlity adcs

MuffledGarbageJul 31, 20176 votes

What is a "diving tank"?

Do you mean Divers Camille JarvanIV Diana ?

Ezreal does great against Divers... he can E away from almost any of thier engages...

RavenMagusJul 31, 20171 votes

Not Divers (which are basically just tanky assassins), but actual tanks. Vanguards, I guess?

People like Sejuani, Zac, Gragas.

Ezreal can E away from them but then he doesn't do any damage while they continue to chase him down. Or ignore him and lock down his team.

ParoeJul 31, 20172 votes

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Not Divers (which are basically just tanky assassins), but actual tanks. Vanguards, I guess?

People like Sejuani, Zac, Gragas.

Ezreal can E away from them but then he doesn't do any damage while they continue to chase him down. Or ignore him and lock down his team.

If ezreal is having a kiting problem then he needs to get an IBG and not trinity farce. Ezreals Q with 40% CDR is 1 second if he hits someone.If hes being chased, its pretty easy to hit.

chipndip1Jul 31, 20171 votes

But he loses out on too much damage with an IBG.

OriyokiJul 31, 20171 votes

No he doesn't.

5000000000000000Jul 31, 20171 votes

Compared to triforce build, yes he does. Extra kiting power is generally worth it, though.

chipndip1Jul 31, 20171 votes

Diving tank: Vanguards mainly

RexxieeJul 31, 20174 votes

Hes not supposed to be high dps vs tanks though.

What needs to happen is tanks get nerfed so they dont dominate the meta anymore, then ez will be playable again.

chipndip1Jul 31, 20171 votes

And then the WHOLE boards will whine for a tank meta again.

LethalTempo JhinJul 31, 20171 votes

Wait a second, Ezreal feels like shit since like... Midseason patch?

I don't think tanks being pushed out of meta will help him when item 3134 items are strong and item 3031 item 3094 item 3087 is really fucking strong as well.

five oh tree Jul 31, 20174 votes

His uniquely fast application of Bork's passive makes him a pretty decent tank killer. He can kill them from a range they can't engage on him in, which makes him pretty good, in my opinion. He's not a Fast tank killer, but he's a good one.

DisulfiramJul 31, 20172 votes

He also gets up to a natural (base+kit) 1,61 attacks per second (for reference, Tristana gets up to 1,54 with Q on). This is insane... he's an hypercarry, of that I have no doubt, and like Tristana he trades tank-killing for safety: he might take a while to kill that tank, but sure as hell he isn't going to get killed by it either.

VigilenteJul 31, 20173 votes

Riot should rework his w so that champions hit by his w are marked, and marked targets have 20% reduced armor temporarily when damaged by ezreal or something similar to that. lol just an idea, feel free to downvote if its stupid.

A Bad NasusJul 31, 20173 votes

Who needs safety when your support can get item 3504 item 3190 item 3107 ? Ezreal has a niche that just lost relevance in the game.

LethalTempo JhinJul 31, 20171 votes

What was his niche? Midgame-spiking marksman/caster?

RainXBladeJul 31, 20172 votes

Riot needs to at least give Ezreal some way on how he can fight tanks and actually have some sting in his damage w/o the numbers being overbearing.

I'm an Ezreal main and rushing BotRK just to handle tanks ain't a fun time since it delays my Sheen item.

DaNinadJul 31, 20171 votes

get botrk 2nd or 3rd item, you dont have to rush it.

RainXBladeJul 31, 20171 votes

I forgot to mention that BotRK is my usually 2nd item, but it's sometimes annoying considering that I delay my Sheen item just to get something that can allow me to at least deal with tanks.

Its All SkillzzJul 31, 20172 votes

Ezreal item 3100 item 3089 item 3146 item 3135 item 3020 item 3165

R+W the carrys behind the tanks to 1 shot then kite and spam Q W into tanks to kill them sooner or later.

ZedexJul 31, 20171 votes

Except this isn't a solution to OP's issue, just a bandaid.

I do love some AP Ez though

rtbf221651412Jul 31, 20171 votes

Doesn't item 3071 work on any physical damage?

It doesn't have to be basic attacks. Obviously may not be the best item on him but still.

Also he gets boosted attack speed so it's not like you can't actually build him as a tank killer.

General Esdeath Jul 31, 20171 votes

item 3034

BârdJul 31, 20171 votes

Not always an option.

Much of the time, you just can't go without healing reduction.

DisulfiramJul 31, 20171 votes

That is why I like to take summoner 14 on my adcs (occasionally if they have a Lulu or other unmissable hard-cc champs). Yes, I get yelled at for it.

OriyokiJul 31, 20171 votes

Ezreal is really good, you just need to know how to play him.

item 3025 item 3036 item 3042 item 1001 item 3153 item 3508 or what ever you want as last item. Good luck vs him!! Infinite strong poke, kiting power and still wrecks everyone.

Daddy AntsJul 31, 20171 votes

Jhin sucks vs Tanks as well.

PePsiLemoNNJul 31, 20171 votes

he does no fucking damage to tanks mid or late game unless hes fed

Or unless he has played this game for more than 2 weeks and builds item 3153 item 3035

TwitchInMyPantsJul 31, 20171 votes

BoRK is helpful for dealing with tanks on Ez, but you're right if its not a game of mainly squishies he's pretty pointless.

LoliKnightJul 31, 20171 votes

Y'all have to keep in mind that Ezreal is probably the only champion in the game that doesnt have Innate wave clear that isnt a 120 sec cd spell. So yeah, he gets pushed in means he cant hit q on priority targets. Ok , Braum and teemo dont have basic ability waveclear but I don't think it affects Braum, and teemo has his shrooms so yeah. And I automatically disqualify melee fighters as they can make tiamat and its derivatives.

ValfuriumJul 31, 20171 votes

lindrys usually helps me a lot.

RalanrJul 31, 20171 votes

Ezreal isn't naturally a tank killer. That's why Blue Ezreal exists, for constant kiting power against tanks.

SwarovskoJul 31, 20171 votes

And this just proves how RIot BLINDLY buffed champions without even knowing why and what they needed to buff

DunkinNoobsJul 31, 20171 votes

He was bad before the tank meta too because he either lost lane to draven or cait or gave vayne or twitch a free lane. He's a trash laner and that will always be the biggest thing that holds him back.

Sire HippingtonJul 31, 20171 votes

He wasn't very popular/strong befor that when tanks were shit aswell though...and Jhin who also is horrible(or atleast he's supposed to) at killing tanks is pretty damn high in the meta right now.... However, EZ is not grabage in lane if played well, and his tank killing is not that horrible(people just forget that he DOES HAVE AAs with up to 90% bonus as from passive+w ONTOP of his Q-dps), while he has enough other strengths going for him. EZ had no issues beeing viable in the past with the kit he has, it's just that (all)other adc are really busted right now. Another issue is tear/manamune, it just is a bad item and he's kinda forced to use it since no-crit ad's have no other options for mana, which hurts his early alot.

VallalanJul 31, 20171 votes

long time ezreal player here.

this is not why he is bad now.

he is bad because he is outdated and what he has to build to be effective is not as good as crit.

they buffed crit which means crit adcs not only scale better than him but are now also stronger than he is in the mid game which used to be his time to shine.

with muramana/trinity he could fuck people up. now its "ok" dps but it's just not worth it.

Ezreal does "ok" damage but has a dip in power in lane with tear, and is relatively weak until he gets muramana and/or trinity.

Not to mention for awhile there a lot of adcs were building bork which fucked ezreal so hard as they just sustained up all his poke.

but please do not say ezreal cannot kill tanks. he can kill tanks pretty quick with muramana/trinity/armor pen item in the mid game. once you get bork you can kill them even faster. I did dps study on all the marksman in the game and ezreal was middle of the pack even with his standard build not having crit in it.

Ezreal needs a new W. it's really that simple. its a borderline useless ability for him right now on AD ezreal. they have already said they are looking at it.