Lmao Galio is ridiculous
Tactical Nuke incomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
ROFL this is some PBE level overbuffing shit.
permabanning this asap.
this is like AP gragas from season 3.
Tactical Nuke incomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
ROFL this is some PBE level overbuffing shit.
permabanning this asap.
this is like AP gragas from season 3.
Please never remind me of AP Gragas.
Have you even seen any panunu montages? or woodie? ap gragas is very much alive and kicking.
sure but no where near the same as it was in season 1 and 2. Im talking faster barrel q and instant undodgable ult for over 2k damage.
I remember thinking. "Why does this asshole's barrel do more damage then actually magic based attacks?
To be fair, have you seen the size of his arms? I don't want him throwing pillows at me, let alone barrels.
Please never remind me of AP Gragas.
I think AP Gragas was less broken than this, he actually was squishy and had to commit ult to kill you most of the time
Still preferable to mid lane Soraka.
I actually might try that again once the new runes come out. The self-heal on Q makes you have quite the sustain.
Large aoe veigar levels of damage with little to no cast time. ill take that old broken soraka mid over it anyday.
Old Soraka had to hit you repeatedly over a period of time to really build her damage up.
Please never remind me of AP Gragas.
dont play league for a few days then
Well if you're cancer then what am I? I go full AP Draven Mid AND, have actually won a few games.
How? Draven doesn't have any AP scalings. Literally, none at all.
Just reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJNAxIuHWjI&list=PLoPiMkuHrFpAxL0EDnBcSDWcv--DSAP1A
...gem.
Outrageous.
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"God, can't people let the patch sit..."
watches one of the posted videos
Okay, nevermind that's broken as all hell. Will never say that .2 isn't a lot and 1% seems insignificant
Its not just 1% when its full AP tho, that'd only be the effect if he only used RoA
Given he gets Ar/Mr from W off of buying AP now 200-600 AP on Galio will likely be more common meaning you have 6-18% max hp damage instead of just 3%, not only that but this applies 3 times over 1.5s. Meaning old Galio would deal up to 6% damage and with 100 AP you're now dealing up to 9% damage, and that's just baseline build for RoA into tank Galio. Factoring the numbers for higher AP builds you can get 18-54% max HP damage off of one Q if you manage to get all the ticks off, without even factoring the wind hitting.
Played him three times in ranked yesterday, only lost one game thanks to my team completely losing so i could get doven 3 men several times without any vision and i have tosay that shit is freelo. At 300-400 AP i had 170+24% max hp dmg for when the tornado meets. It's completely bonkers.
I just practice tested a 900 AP Galio
His % Damage was 80% of MAX HP. 910 damage per wing (In other words, 1 hit).
His HP was a respectable 2550.
It had a 4 second cooldown.
Q was NOT the only broken thing;
His passive damage on hits was +619 damage.
With 900 AP, his passive was face tanking turrets in 5 hits. The regular damage was 400+. The Passive proc was 1256. I took 4 turrets in a row without healing.
How many AP mages do you know who have 2550 hp, 4 sec 1 hit skills, and can face tank turrets better than a Season 4 Udyr?
Cause even for mages full build would only land them around 600 AP. 900 AP would require a VERY specific and late game builds

I agree he is OP though
If you actually rifle through some of my posts, I'd done the math based on 600 AP as well.
But, you need to consider, given his insane broken scaling atm, even at 15-18 minutes, Galio atm probably can have enough KILLS to boost a full build even in a short game. Players who are hyper carrying don't scale at the same rate as players who just score "good."
A Zed or Talon with 20 kills in 15 minutes can be full built, for example, especially if some of those are shutdowns.
Not sure why he even needed THESE changes. It is a "change" that is a straight up buff. A buff to an already strong in the meta champ. I don't get it. It was like buffing ardent when people were already starting to pick it up and now they've had to give it straight nerfed for like...2 months?
Well they likely thought weakening his pure tank for competitive would need compensation for solo q considering he already had a terrible winrate. Juuuust overshot it slightly maybe.
Ah there it is
with 700 AP he can one-shot a squishy with a well place Q. That's ridiculous.
With like 700 AP Veigar can almost one shot a squishy with a well placed W on half the cooldown, but we can constantly complain about mages with absurd AP values. Hell at 700 AP Syndra can probably kill a squishy with just E+W.
Copy pasted from another thread.
So i checked some maths. Both champs have 900 AP.
If you stood in viktors entire ult for 6.5 seconds you would take 3100 damage.
If you stood in galios Q for 1.5 seconds (or all 3 ticks) you would take 2600 damage if you had 2000 max health (figured that was a good baseline for squishys)
So galios FUCKING Q deals THREE TIMES MORE DAMAGE THAN VIKTORS ULT (oh and it ticks way faster at .5 seconds vs 2 seconds)
Viktors ult would have to deal 10400 damage to be equivalent to galios Qs dps.
And people are still saying this is okay. And thats just his Q.
Galio has probly just became the highest damaging mage in the entire game.
Viktor's ult lasts longer get and does more total dage as you mentioned hut didn't really acknowledge, has a significantly bigger aoe, and CAN MOVE
"Tristana's ult has more base damage and scaling than one part of Morgana's ult, op op!"
Viktor's ult lasts longer get and does more total dage as you mentioned hut didn't really acknowledge, has a significantly bigger aoe, and CAN MOVE
"Tristana's ult has more base damage and scaling than one part of Morgana's ult, op op!"
Lol
Wow! What a comeback! You need a participation sticker
Why would you need it to move, when galio taunts and knocks you up in place anyways :P
Galio's W has %hp scaling and 700 ap allows him to deal 70% max hp dmg to ANYONE
... The taunt?
And Veigar has worse durability, worse CC, and less reliable damage.
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With like 700 AP Veigar can almost one shot a squishy with a well placed W on half the cooldown, but we can constantly complain about mages with absurd AP values. Hell at 700 AP Syndra can probably kill a squishy with just E+W.
But ... Not really.
EDIT : I mean Galio Q have 1.5 AP ratio as well as 9% max health damage every 100 AP, that's far more damage. When people say one shot by a Q, that's really one shot, they mean it. Also, Galio can reach insane amount of % magic damage reduction (80~90% with full AP build) and half of that in physical damage reduction.
AP Gragas was cool af, and in no way different than some other, way more toxic, mages.
Crushing in lane he was 2/8 80 farm and suddenly he oneshots me [sg-ahri-2]
Crushing in lane he was 2/8 80 farm and suddenly he oneshots me [sg-ahri-2]
this is literally PBE next level shit that used to happen like 3-4 seasons ago when they mess around and try shit
dude did 1200 damage to me with one Q with 1 and half items lmao.
The sad part is, it's instant. Galio train, fam. [galio-happy]
What part of his kit is instant?
Literally none of it, even his passive swing has an extra windup animation.
man i freaking loved playing gragas before the soft rework, it was op af but it carried my trash tier butt like crazy and it was so funny to just instanuke an entire team
They will hotfix him in the coming days no doubt about it.
Tactical Nuke incomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
ROFL this is some PBE level overbuffing shit.
permabanning this asap.
this is like AP gragas from season 3.
at least AP gragas had an ultimate cooldown he had to play around........... you know, not 6 seconds rofl