small sample size but as the OP of this thread. in my experience. ezreal doesn't lose a lane. ezreal gets out of lane with 3+ kills and nobody can survive lane against him
its quite funny . not that long ago ezreal was a passive laner. now he buys tears and wrecks you as if he was jayce.
flibitydoo24 votesI feel like it has nothing to do with kleptomancy
For me, it has way more to do with the loss of armour and mag res runes, which means his Q does like 100+ points of damage at level 1. per cast. per 28 mana cost cast.
he can chunk you for 1/5th of your healthbar for 28 mana. at level 1. sure he has to aim the skillshot and it can be blocked by minions, but it's so cheap and has such good range (and now has such good damage) that he can very much poke anyone out of lane. And buying a tear doesn't make his Q do less damage (it'll still hurt for 100+), it just mitigates the mana cost even more and gives him more tries at Q harass.
I remember, like 6 months ago I was playing a game (long before the rune change), and I left clicked on my sona support while waiting for blue buff to spawn, and she has no armour/mag res runes. I ask her if she has runes, she says "I do", I assume she has them in scaling stats or in non-stat readable areas like gp/10 or flat health. (Turns out when I checked in match history she literally had no runes equipped). But anyways, we walk into lane and ez fires a Q. it does literally a 1/3 of her healthbar. We of course ended up losing lane super hard because she needs to hide behind me, and can't contribute without risking instant death due to her lack of runes leaving me to 2 v 1 their nami and ez.
And in the current season. That squishy sona vs Ez kinda feels like what everyone has to deal with botlane now.
What Is Smite1 votesI'd say AP enchanter supports are the meta for the botlane currently, bar leona, due to the lack of MR in general for all champions. Sure they got rid of Mpen from old runes but the amount of AP gained coupled with the lack of MR have shifted early bot lanes towards the AP supports.
DracosKasu1 votesNot really, most of the enchanter just happen to give ad steroid dmg to their adc which add up dmg to press the attack(which currently also give bonus dmg on the third was remove on pbe).
In Leona case she isnt punish during a dive because aftershock give to her even more resist (30% before the dmg prop) and dmg burst.
It is mostly a rune problem in general since they give too much dmg early game. In Ezreal case it is mostly because she can’t fuck his Kleptomancy since his Q count as an auto which generally you need to cast a spell then an auto for the effect but Ezreal and GP doesnt need to do and just need to land their spell on the player.
Blåbæret10 votesEz was always overpowered early game with his poke, but with the loss of resistances, he has become unbearable.
nGio6 votesIt wasn't much of an issue though, considering he spent most of the season below 48% as an adc. AFTER they buffed his Q in 7.20 he still ended at 47%. The new runes are that good.
xxxDogmanxxx5 votesI think I figured out why Ezreal does so much damage in the early game now. It's not that we're missing the armor since Riot gave most of us that armor buff. I'm pretty sure the reason Ez is doing so much damage is because of Scorch + the extra 16 AD from taking Sorcery as his secondary path.
Makes me think Summon Aery could be absolutely terrifying on him, but he'd never take it because Kleptomancy just gives him so much gold value.
Baron Barian4 votesFew days ago, I as against an Ezreal. Was support and I think my adc was Miss Fortune.
We did fine in bot, but as soon as Ez went mid, we immediately lost the tower, then he and the jungle went to top and we lost top. In both cases, someone on our team died.
Feels almost like a legitimately effective strategy is to five man dive a tower at the 5 minute mark.
Disembark3 votesMF should do well against Ezreal though. Just shove the wave in (you do it a lot better than him, that's always been his biggest weakness - he can't poke if he's CSing under tower/is blocked by ur minions). You pretty much auto-win any trade and poke as hard as him + you spike earlier (you get serrated when he gets tear).
Actually MF is even more busted than Ezreal right now (higher win rate by 2-3% in all elos).
Bob the Toastr4 votesShhhh, I don't want my MF to be nerfed [slayer-jinx-wink]
Durzaka3 votesYou say MF does well, meanwhile Ez has a 54% win rate against MF in plat+
Hexs Fortune2 votesMF should do well against Ezreal though. Just shove the wave in (you do it a lot better than him, that's always been his biggest weakness - he can't poke if he's CSing under tower/is blocked by ur minions). You pretty much auto-win any trade and poke as hard as him + you spike earlier (you get serrated when he gets tear).
Actually MF is even more busted than Ezreal right now (higher win rate by 2-3% in all elos).
Shove the wave as an adc that has no way to deal with ganks?
[sg-miss-fortune]
DoktorKaiser4 votesHe is still a shit ADC and his damage is shit compared to crit users, unless you eat all the Q-s which is your fucking fault, but when you give him 28 pots before his first back he will probably fuck you due to being full HP and mana constantly no matter how bad of a trade he makes. On the other hand MF is taking half my HP at level 1 on a point and click buggy ability, THAT is something you can't play against and is oppressive as fuck...
ªTeemo1 votesKlepto doesn't make him destroy people with huge damage :/ And a smart player doesn't need "28" pots anyway
DoktorKaiser2 votesOh really? Then explain to me how I still lose the fucking 1v1 to any ADC in this game EASILY before I get my full Muramana ??? Huge damage my ass, he just has 25 different pots running which give him hp, hp regen, mana, AD and other shit. Without them he is average at best...
ªTeemo1 votesAnd I played against ezreal who had aery and did nearly a quarter of my hp with q at level 1... Kleptomancy ezreal op right? He didn't have kleptomancy, he doesn't win because of pots he wins because his damage is retarded
DoktorKaiser2 votesWell I guess you played vs lvl 9 Ezreal who was level 1 somehow or you are just lying because that is pure bullshit and I know because I play him myself...
ªTeemo1 votesyou are hopeless then
Boulderox4 votes[{quoted}](name=JIHADIST TEEMO,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Lb4EMAKO,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-11-29T11:24:11.077+0000)
Klepto doesn't make him destroy people with huge damage :/ And a smart player doesn't need "28" pots anyway
They just sell them for a ~900 gold lead...
quasistellar2 votes
- Remove his interaction with Klepto
- ???
- Profit
He is still a shit ADC and his damage is shit compared to crit users, unless you eat all the Q-s which is your fucking fault, but when you give him 28 pots before his first back he will probably fuck you due to being full HP and mana constantly no matter how bad of a trade he makes. On the other hand MF is taking half my HP at level 1 on a point and click buggy ability, THAT is something you can't play against and is oppressive as fuck...
Checks Ezreal winrate with anything but klepto.
Yep. That or nerf klepto. But I’m sure they’ll just dumpster Ez and THEN nerf klepto and he'll be back to 47% winrate. They wouldn’t want to admit that one of their keystones is a really bad idea.
DoktorKaiser1 votesHe will be 47% winrate if they nerf Klepto without nerfing him, but knowing RIOT they will do as you said they will and he will have 37% win rate or something like that and he will have to go jungle again :(
Rinký Dinky2 votesI smashed an Ezreal top as 
of all people, does that count?
Absolute Horizon2 votesand this is why i ban him every game.
Resolution2 votesNeeds a hotfix or be disabled until the PBE nerfs they have planned go through. Shouldn't have to waste a ban slot because a champs allowed over 60% winrate carefree.
LuxannaVeritas2 votesEzreal's getting nerfed next patch, so it's a start.
Out of curiosity, what is Ezreal's win rate past 25 minutes?
Daddy Ants1 votesEzreal's getting nerfed next patch, so it's a start.
Out of curiosity, what is Ezreal's win rate past 25 minutes?
http://champion.gg/champion/Ezreal/ADC
Ezreal has as 58.07% winrate at 25-30 minutes.
Doesn't become normal until 40+
Most games don't go that long now anyway.
Røselia1 votes[zombie-brand-mindblown]
RedCyclone1 votesBetter nerf Sona again though
DunkinNoobs1 votesBefore the update, Ezreal had 74 AD at lvl 1 with Dblade. Ezreal with Dblade has 88 AD at lvl 1 after the preseason update. That's why his winrate is so high; he just does too much damage early in the game.
SongofStorm1 votesFeels like I am playing against a Doom Bot
Vedius1 voteshttps://media2.giphy.com/media/BdAn5S0xigpO/giphy.gif
-Ezreal Mains
The Ghøst King1 votessmall sample size but as the OP of this thread. in my experience. ezreal doesn't lose a lane. ezreal gets out of lane with 3+ kills and nobody can survive lane against him
its quite funny . not that long ago ezreal was a passive laner. now he buys tears and wrecks you as if he was jayce.
What does OP mean?
Lùmen1 votesWell, that's just his thing in preseason with his newfound powers from the Runes Reforged. I'm actually surprised that his winrate in short games isn't 70%+. The whole thing about beating Ezreal is if his entire team is losing hard and even his power can't carry the game or the Ezreal player is just bad or the most common case, the enemy team manages to stall the game to a point where he is not relevant anymore.
Boulderox1 votesEzreal support os a new thing, and its sole goal is to make the enemy adc afk, and it works. Nerf him finally please riot.
xelaker1 votesthe loss of armor and mr for people made ez hit like a truck at level 1
Feathermane1 votesEzreal was always a lane bully, not a passive laner. Granted, people started Tear for no reason, which gimps his early a little.
