How come Darius can't proc Dark Harvest with his bleed?

Pyrithegethon·Apr 1, 2019·8 votes·7,593 views

I'm going to assume twitch's passive doesn't proc it either but I haven't tested yet.

Is this intended or a bug?

12 Comments

Minimac2000Apr 1, 20194 votes

Iirc, champion's passives don't generally count as their abilities which is why you get crap like the infernal drake killing you with statik shiv and ashe killing you with 149 true damage when there is no ashe in the game, basically spaghetti code. Like I'm pretty sure lucian passive generally registers as a taric because the ability is copy-pasted

PyrithegethonApr 1, 20195 votes

Brand passive counts as an ability which is why it can proc liandries and rylais.

OleandervineApr 1, 20193 votes

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Brand passive counts as an ability which is why it can proc liandries and rylais.

It counts as SPELL DAMAGE which is not the same thing. Darius' bleed is coded to trigger off of abilities and his attacks, which means it's not coded as an ability, otherwise it would stack itself. Furthermore, Dark Harvest doesn't proc on additional effects like Scorch and Liandry's, because they're coded to trigger off of abilities too, so that could be while Darius' bleed can't trigger it.

The thigh guyApr 1, 20191 votes

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Iirc, champion's passives don't generally count as their abilities which is why you get crap like the infernal drake killing you with statik shiv and ashe killing you with 149 true damage when there is no ashe in the game, basically spaghetti code. Like I'm pretty sure lucian passive generally registers as a taric because the ability is copy-pasted

Man. Reminds me of my favorite bug rito ever pulled out of their ass.

They had a solid day where morgana’s bind didn’t root anymore but ezreal’s q did. It was actually hilarious.

Minimac2000Apr 1, 20191 votes

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Man. Reminds me of my favorite bug rito ever pulled out of their ass.

They had a solid day where morgana’s bind didn’t root anymore but ezreal’s q did. It was actually hilarious.

I remember there was a big on one when they were nerfing leblanc's chain. Someone forgot a period and added a 0 and suddenly lb chain rooted for like 6 minutes

The thigh guyApr 1, 20191 votes

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I remember there was a big on one when they were nerfing leblanc's chain. Someone forgot a period and added a 0 and suddenly lb chain rooted for like 6 minutes

That must have been glorious. For 1 person in the game. Lol

Romans VI XXIIIApr 1, 20194 votes

I did some testing with this a while back and found out that DoTs that CAN be applied via Auto Attacks do not count as "spells" or "attacks".

Notice I said "CAN" cause Darius passive can be applied via spells AND auto attacks. So IF it can be applied via an AA then it falls under this category of not counting as a spell or attack, regardless if it can also be applied by a spell.

This us why Darius or twitch passives and teemos E do not apply spell affects, like liand/rylias, and why Brands passive does.

Done25Apr 1, 20193 votes

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I did some testing with this a while back and found out that DoTs that CAN be applied via Auto Attacks do not count as "spells" or "attacks".

Notice I said "CAN" cause Darius passive can be applied via spells AND auto attacks. So IF it can be applied via an AA then it falls under this category of not counting as a spell or attack, regardless if it can also be applied by a spell.

This us why Darius or twitch passives and teemos E do not apply spell affects, like liand/rylias, and why Brands passive does.

More like because Brand's passive is bullshit favoritism.

OleandervineApr 1, 20191 votes