The LCS proved it with all those op Bruiser picks and bans. All those Bruisers that werent banned got that op steraks item.
For example that OP Bruiser 
and 
are so op, Bruisers need nerfs.
Thank Riot they are nerfing op Steraks on those Bruisers. Darius got banned 6 times because of op Bruisers.
Please make Steraks melee only or need 3k health to work.
AHeroNamedHawke42 votes
is the most OP bruiser in the game, 5 stacks Hemorrhage and dunks me for 1k true damage wtf?
Only Play Darius11 votesMake it melee only, then nerf Kalista into the ground just for good measure
5 Stacks GG9 votes^making it need 3000 hp and ranged seems like a way better fix
Hemulen Magi9 votesNerf marksmen base AD & base AD scaling per level. Widen the base stat gap between them and their opponents. Being ranged is incredibly valuable at every stage of the game.
mogonk5 votesPlease make Steraks melee only or need 3k health to work.
Why not both? That way only Juggernauts (you know, the class that was supposed to benefit from it) would actually buy it.
GlockHammer3 votesWhy not both? That way only Juggernauts (you know, the class that was supposed to benefit from it) would actually buy it.
Lol, considering how I see every melee adc building typical juggernaut, I hardly believe that would be the case,
mogonk4 votesLol, considering how I see every melee adc building typical juggernaut, I hardly believe that would be the case,
Melee adcs have over 3k health? Since when?
Sire Hippington2 votessince titanic hydra titanic+steraks easly gives the 3k at 18, as most melee carrys have ~2200hp at 18
High51 votesSo? Playing a lot of 50/50 40+ min games in this meta?
This seems like fotw complaining.
If it's a problem, Riot will adjust the price like they did with dead plate.
GlockHammer3 votesMelee adcs have over 3k health? Since when?
Malicious Metal29 votesKinda hard to reach 3k health with Mordekaiser though :/
Over Innsmouth1 votes#1700neverforgettispaghetti
Hemulen Magi14 votesMake Sterak's Fury require 3k total health to proc, then buff 
Mordekaiser's level 18 health by 150 as specific compensation. He can afford the buff right now.
Bring health seals, complete 
Rylai's, then shop to complete Sterak's when you have enough gold to buy an extra 
Ruby Crystal with it. You can use the extra Ruby later on for whatever other defensive/bruiser item you want 
.
Khâmul2 votes[{quoted}](name=Hemulen Magi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P0v8EkHc,comment-id=000200010001,timestamp=2016-02-15T01:54:55.271+0000)
Make
Bring health seals, complete
i don't recommend when you already have . you'll have hp and that's all. the ad you get from it isn't worth either
Hemulen Magi1 votesI was just listing a bunch of random options that the ruby I mentioned could be built into. Obviously, you wouldn't build all of those, since Mordekaiser doesn't get 12 item slots. I would personally probably build the Banshee's Veil in most cases.
Khâmul1 voteswhat's your core build?
Hemulen Magi2 votesI like to change up my build rather than buying the same items each game. I pretty much always get 
. I usually do something like 
where I will sell and replace the revolver with a Deathcap/Luden's/Liandry if the game goes on long enough or rarely I will upgrade it to a gunblade.
I like to take him into the jungle sometimes, in which case I use something like 
or 
. However, I will probably start using the new 
since it looks a lot better than Warrior for Morde now and the new Udyr build has given me the idea to test out 
on Morde.
I think that anti-burst like are more important in laning and sustain + DPS like are more important in jungling.
Here is my new theorycrafted jg build (I need to actually test it): for a decently mobile/sticky jg Mordekaiser.
The main problem that requiring 3k hp for Sterak's would cause for Morde would be if he wanted it early or if he were going with a squishier build. Rylai's is pretty much core for most Morde players, but I don't think that Deadman's is used as much. I think a lot of Morde's go Rylai's straight to Sterak's, so if Sterak's were given a 3k health limitation, Morde should probably be compensated with that playstyle in mind. Like I mentioned earlier, if he were given another 150 hp at level 18 then he would be able to still get Sterak's early on if he brings hp seals and buys an extra ruby, so I think that solution works well for compensating him.
Khâmul1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hemulen Magi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P0v8EkHc,comment-id=0002000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-15T05:32:36.768+0000)
I like to change up my build rather than buying the same items each game. I pretty much always get
I like to take him into the jungle sometimes, in which case I use something like
I think that anti-burst like
Here is my new theorycrafted jg build (I need to actually test it):
The main problem that requiring 3k hp for Sterak's would cause for Morde would be if he wanted it early or if he were going with a squishier build. Rylai's is pretty much core for most Morde players, but I don't think that Deadman's is used as much. I think a lot of Morde's go Rylai's straight to Sterak's, so if Sterak's were given a 3k health limitation, Morde should probably be compensated with that playstyle in mind. Like I mentioned earlier, if he were given another 150 hp at level 18 then he would be able to still get Sterak's early on if he brings hp seals and buys an extra ruby, so I think that solution works well for compensating him.
I usually go 
as core item in toplane. for the two last slots , it can be 
or 
. it depends of what is facing me. seems to work pretty good with 
. I'm going to try 
in a few day when my pc gets repared .in end game with 
you reach 40 tenacity. I think it would be op to get almost immune to control. it'll allow to spam your E (cdr/level quint,+15%) and survive without requiring sterak (dispelling ignite is also nice)
InivtesPreeze1 votesGood, your main is trash and should remain trash.
Ecodeath1 votesnot really
Khâmul2 votes[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P0v8EkHc,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-02-14T23:56:22.666+0000)
Kinda hard to reach 3k health with Mordekaiser though :/
you can with
FastAsHeck2 voteshey MM, I want to pick up Morde (solo lane), can you help me with the items, playstyle, powersplikes etc please? [slayer-jinx-catface]
Malicious Metal3 votesMax Order; E->Q->W get W at level two though to powerpush the enemy.
My preferred build's something like this;
You can cheese your enemy laner with your flash Q if you poke them down with your siphon and get them low enough.
After Rylais is your first powerspike, the next one's at your Gunblade.
Anything specific though?
FastAsHeck2 votesI have to give it a shot, I'm sure I'll find you somewhere around here if I need anything specific, thanks a lot [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Mhihnj1 votesDon't worry, you have my support (cause support and jng ar my best roles
FastAsHeck1 votesPraise the Son1 votesI regularly reach 4k hp on morde with my builds. Even on ap bruiser builds, I end up having over 3k
Rinky Dinky10 votes would become so bad at that point.
His winrate would rival release 
UrPalAl1 votesBut my Jayce uses it qq. He's actually a bruiser by design.
aperson14 votesThey should increase the damage threshold for the shield to proc. That way you actually have to be tanky to take advantage of the shield without dying.
Also, Kalista's base AD is way too high. "Muh 90% damage" please. She already has Rend to make her last hitting easier, there's 0 reason for it to start off higher than every melee champ except Maokai.
Photos of Ghosts2 votesI like the 3k health idea. It allows me to build actual bruiser Quinn and still get the items as they're supposed to be, but pesky squishies don't.
Sageace2 votesThe main reason why they won't make it a melee item only is because 
exists.
He is a ranged Fighter (that eventually does become melee once almost every minute...)
SH Azykan5 votesit would just only proc the passive if he is in mega gnar, which generally is the only time you should need it anyways
WoonStruck3 votesit would just only proc the passive if he is in mega gnar, which generally is the only time you should need it anyways
Plus it moves FMal Gnar a little further away from being total cancer. Still 90% cancer, though.
CitadelOfIce1 votesThe main reason why they won't make it a melee item only is because
He is a ranged Fighter (that eventually does become melee once almost every minute...)
Umm Jayce anyone?
Karma Deified2 votesWho's that?
CitadelOfIce2 votes[{quoted}](name=A Lovely Whisper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P0v8EkHc,comment-id=000700010001,timestamp=2016-02-15T16:11:35.912+0000)
Who's that?
Hes that guy with the hammer, jemms, and a sense of fashion... Or was it a hammer and canon I forget.
alfavhunter1 votesWait isn't poppy a girl? I'm confused
And you are mistaking cannon for a buckler
Whoever downvotes me failed to see the joke lol
FastAsHeck1 votesis he building steraks? I havent seen a jayce for years
CitadelOfIce1 votesis he building steraks? I havent seen a jayce for years
He has too low base AD stats for it to do anything of worth. You get just tear not manamune BT and the new assassin item. Then you got some options but they are limetted since crits do nothing for you and you need to max CDR.
Chuck Charles2 votesi think you miss the point man. if non intended roles are abusing an item, then it means the item is simply broken or overpowered. sterak's in my opinion will always be incredibly hard for them to balance because the shield is actually damn ridiculous in mitigating burst in such a way that no other item is better at doing this on characters who build AD. it needs to be toned down big time.
ADCs just abuse it best because they have the highest dps and they usually have a lot of lifesteal to go with their high dps/life steal so they can sustain through burst which is supposed to be their only weakness.
Frius1 votestrue ,warmog requires 3k health to regen ,then this seriously needs 3k too.
DarkRitual2 votes3k is hilariously easy to obtain for warmogs. Level 14+ Morgana with warmogs has it. I've gotten the passive on Soraka with just Warmogs and Ruby Sightstone (heals4eva). This would work for Sterak's though, since it doesn't give of health a lot by itself. Adjusting the shield to have a small base plus lower % of Max Health would also be an option. Something like 200+15% Max Health. Option 2: Make it scale off of Bonus Health.
ManiacalCoyote1 votesDammit, don't lump all of us bruisers into the same pot.
I don't use .
Instead, I use:
Then again, I use 
mikemcparty1 votesHow op could an op champ be, if an op champ picked and op champ item?
Seriously though, you used "op" 8 times in seven sentences (including the title).
XIII Vanitas1 votesOr change the passive shield to scale with bonus hp instead of maximum hp
CheftoniFTW1 votesYou said "op" 8 times...
novac37211 votesIs OP? Yes. should it be nerfed? Not necessarily. hear me out; when an Item gets bought all the time, be it or (until recently), It means that they're just the best option at the moment. When Items (or champions for that matter) are nerfed because they're popular, it just means the rest of the current Items are too weak. Like when until the cost increase, I would always get instead of , partly because was just not good enough to warrant getting. I didn't want to get nerfed, simply to be buffed. I know we're talking about , but I feel we should use the same kind of thinking here: what could we do to make there be a, if not better, different option?
I'm not saying we never need to nerf anything (maybe make melee only would be a good idea), but I'd rather see that ''item diversity'' we were promised, instead of ''it's good (fun), nerf it''.
