It's unhealthy to leave a champ unchanged/untweaked for a VERY long time!

Wukong Airlines··10 votes·532 views

It's funny how some champions receive unneeded buffs that would boost their winrate and pickrate when they're perfectly fine. some can 1shot you with 2 damage items and in 1 cycle onlyRenekton JarvanIV some get completely changed for no reason when theyre perfectly balanced Velkoz Malzahar others are left broken because of tournametsFiora Orianna Thresh

meanwhile there's few champs left slaves to items changesMonkeyKing MonkeyKing the big question is, why?

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King of Demons2 votes

Jarvan is pretty trash, or at least he has never really been too strong.

Orianna isn't overpowered either, just always a solid pick. Thresh is not the easiest champ and Fiora only recently became a tad too strong again. Seriously, try playing her and you'll notice that she is not as faceroll as everybody says.

hhaavviikk1 votes

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Jarvan is pretty trash, or at least he has never really been too strong.

Orianna isn't overpowered either, just always a solid pick. Thresh is not the easiest champ and Fiora only recently became a tad too strong again. Seriously, try playing her and you'll notice that she is not as faceroll as everybody says.

Jarvan never been too strong? years back he was insane in the jungle, back then I won 9-1 placement matches all by using jungle jarvan, now he's still a good jungler but others are better, though he can nuke pretty heavily I'll tell ya that

KoKoboto1 votes

That's a really good point for Jarvan and Renekton. They can very easily one shot squishies with 2 damage items and I don't think any other fighter or diver types actually have that ability. That's actually really unhealthy gameplay when I think about it. Darius, Yorick and other juggernauts can't kill as fast as them yet they're supposed to be damage houses. Other divers don't gib as well, Warwick, Xin Zhao, Rek'Sai.

Wukong Airlines1 votes

and Rene does Aoe % damage, gets more tankiness from his ult, and can have infinite sustain in lane. its not all about his 1 cycle 1shot, its about the 0 early counterplay duo to his laning phase nature, the dash and stun.

Big Lincoln1 votes

xin zhao can gib people hard as heck my man

right now juggies aren't really worth picking over divers, they share too many strengths but divers also have so much more. hoping that the individual diver updates we're getting this/next year will sort that out

KoKoboto1 votes

I've never seen a 2 item Xin Zhao gib people unless they're really ahead with those 2 items. I have seen ones that invest in more damage gib people and that makes sense.

DoktorKaiser1 votes

Renekton is bullshit early game if he picks ignite, but at least he really falls of late as he should JarvanIV is broken as fuck, there is a reason he was nerfed to shit, he ganks as much as lee but never falls off and his 1 shot is AOE FioraRiven Zac Caitlyn Twitch Draven are the most broken champs by far for months and 0 nerfs, especially FioraZac are absolutely broken and just plain unfair to play against, 0 counterplay Orianna is only good in pro play, she is just strong in regular play, could use minor nerf Thresh is just overloaded, its about fucking time they removed a part of his kit, at least his friend Yasuo is getting some kind of rework Blitzcrank just profits from support tank items far too much and not to mention his super toxic playstyle of "be trash all game long with no drawbacks, make 1 play and win it all" LeeSin still tumor, I just ban him every game since he will never get serious nerfs, its been 7 years and he had none so I kind of put 2 and 2 together

AirKingNeo1 votes

Renekton doesn't' fall off that hard late game. It's just about as good as Jax.

DoktorKaiser1 votes

Dafuq did I just read. As a Jax player please explain to me how Renekton is as strong as Jax late game, I am curious...

Danjeng1 votes

He's a crocodile, and is granted bonus MS in the river, which increases his mid/late game presence idk.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Renekton has Cleaver which gives him armor pen that Jax doesn't have. He also has Titanic Hydra scaling with all his HP, including his HP. He also has Death's Dance, which is just strong in general. He also has GA if he wants.

Jax has Trinity which has fallen off. He Titanic to scale with his HP. Sterak's Gage has fallen off by now and will barely ever proc, especially in a 1v1.

DD will absorb most of Jax's damage and Renekton will just spam combos on top of him. Keep mind, Jax isn't a late game champion.

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