Giving this Rat 
Assassin mechanics, long stealth duration, AOE + true damage + Range is ok.
Let's not forget the fact that he's been on 55%+ win ratio, 16% pick ratio and 65%+ ban ratio for several patches. But whenever an Assassin gets the same Ratios, nerfed next patch.
Then they give you the following BS on their career site [[We’re looking for humble but ambitious,** razor-sharp professionals** who can teach us a thing or two]].
ModAcademy Kayn89 votesAre we really considering Twitch's tiny True damage DoT "True damage", as one of the reasons he might be too powerful? Really? Something that with 6 stacks fully, does 30 damage? Saying you reset the duration a couple times, you might amass 60 damage over the course of how long?
That said, I've said it once, I'll say it again, Twitch does not have the kill time of an assassin unless Fed. Unlike assassins, he has no innate mobility, his only escape being what he uses to start fights in which he needs to get a kill to spiral off with. You wanna fight him better? Don't stack directly behind each other, or close like you would Annie. Tanks should be using red Trinkets, and you should be pinking your jungle exits.
If they're going to engage on you, sacrifice the tank if need be, but get him CC'd. Fighters who can get on Twitch and stun the fucker can do the job, but only if they can get on top (which i know is a challenge). Forcing him to change his direction to deal with a new threat saves your team damage. If you can, just disengage, and now he's down an ult. Always be watching to see if you can see Twitch. If you can't, he's likely on his way already, as he's pretty much like Evelynn in that regard.
sobi9997 votesSo what you're saying is that twitch is not doing better than literally most assassins in the game as of right now? His winrate, banrate and playrate doesn't matter and that he is currently balanced?
Jerry SeinfeId24 votesYou mean an adc is doing better in a tank/adc/enchanter meta than an assassin who get's countered by both tanks and enchanters?
Who would have thought.......
IDK what assassins you guys are playing but FYI 
isn't an assassin.
I have no issue destroying squishies as Akali and last time i played against talon he still went badabing badaboom and i was dead without any issues.
Every single time i've played twitch i have needed about 3 Auto's to kill a squishy. Well i guess we should gut mages cuz they hit me (as twitch btw) for about 50% of my hp with 1 ability. oh wait that's cuz i got no resistances so it's fine.
A squishy might not be ablte to 1v1 twitch at all times but they can atleast survive against him, when zed decides an adc dies they die.
But then Enchanter supports come into play, they bring one of the most broken mechanics in league: SHIELDS
Shields counter everything (as long as it's dmg) and aren't countered by anything, they especially counter burst and thus assassins.
Assassins counter squishy targets but mages can actually fight back => Assassin counters ADC especially.
ADCs build AD, AS, Crit or lethality and lifesteal -> lifesteal makes your health bar drop slower by healing while you apply (and most likely take) damage.
Shields prevent you from taking damage directly to your health -> this allows heals to be more effective -> Lifesteal = heal
=> shields are amazing for lifesteal users = shields are amazing for ADC.
So now you have strong tanks running around and ADC who's main weakness is being taken away by Enchanters. Why should an assassin be good in a meta like that?
Now why can twitch feel as oppressive as an assassin? because he is an assassin.
Twitch has ALWAYS been marked as a Marksman first and Assassin second. When i first started playing twitch youmuu's rush "assassin twitch" was quite popular (but i don't like the item so meh).
The only time i am capable of assassinating someone as twitch is when i built 
but then i lose alot of teamfight potential i would have with the standard crit build.
Ivern and Irelia2 votes[{quoted}](name=Vape Naysh YalI,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PjBeQRZj,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-09-04T14:35:16.641+0000)
IDK what assassins you guys are playing but FYI
You clearly have never played full ap Ivern then
DevlinCrow16 votesLast game I faced a Twitch, we stomped his lane and he didn't even get close to assassinating anyone for the entire game.
But if you feed a Twitch, a Zed, a Kayn, a Cait etc then yeah you'll be deleted.
These posts are just people salty about losses and blaming it on the game rather than themselves :P
Lunar ArcS4 votesRight.. Because the statistics are simply lying and him being consistently god tier for many patches is just "salt" Try again.
DevlinCrow2 votesI don't doubt Twitch is good, but he's not going to delete anyone unless he's fed. Like every damage dealer in the game lol
Penns59 votesyoure right because twitch has a faster kill time than most assassins lul
ModAcademy Kayn21 votesSure.
zYaichi29 votesit's true, assassins are the weakest class in the game right now
ModAcademy Kayn18 votesI don't doubt that, but he doesn't have an assassin's kill time, unless fed.
Teph5 votesI would make the statement that Twitch is strong, but only if fed, if he gets no kills and a small amount of cs within the first 10-20 minutes he becomes a weight for his team, the only way he could win fights would be his team only focuses on keeping him alive during said fight. That being said, a fed Twitch can win his team fights, whereas an assassin (not counting katerina lul) can most of the time just get a pick and not just kill everybody. All in all if the Twitch as a bad support or is just bad at the game then you shouldn't have to worry about Twitch one shotting someone anytime soon, I feel that this comes down to the support, a good support will get the twitch fed, a bad support with put the twitch in situations where the twitch dies.
Lunar ArcS6 votes
: I'm gonna assassinate x champion. Takes 1.5 seconds for passive to even proc
: I don't have to wait to do double that damage.
Most assassins, due to the rework, have to wait at least 1-2 seconds or longer to kill someone. And they HAVE to land everything, name an assassin that can assassinate with something other than a skill shot?
ModAcademy Kayn3 votesI feel like that's a bigger problem with Leblanc, and not Twitch.
Lunar ArcS2 votesWhile I generally agree that LeBlanc has issues on her own the general consensus is that twitch out bursts due to the reworked assassins and their delayed bursts to give adcs more time to react for counter play purposes which in turn allows adcs to dominate as it was assassins doing their job to keep them in check in the first place
martincastillo22 votes[{quoted}](name=Lunar ArcS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PjBeQRZj,comment-id=000000020000000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-05T01:17:31.333+0000)
While I generally agree that LeBlanc has issues on her own the general consensus is that twitch out bursts due to the reworked assassins and their delayed bursts to give adcs more time to react for counter play purposes which in turn allows adcs to dominate as it was assassins doing their job to keep them in check in the first place
They had a goal with the assassin upadate and was to give "counterplay". And they achieved it, but how? Making assassins slow and clunky by giving them forced dealys.
I used to be a Rengar main, I barely play him after the rework
LOSINGISMYPRIDE1 votesTalon
0532 votesHe does have to auto for the passive proc. Plus his escape (E) is not instant nor is it a blink. I guess Talon is quite strong though.
Grizzlpaw10 votesThis is true. Even if twitch did kill slightly slower than assassins. He doesn't get cucked by champions like 
because he can just stand outside of polymorph range and could care less about knockbacks.
And if you think 
will save you like it will against a 
, just know that all he has to do is keep autoing your team while stacking fervor and he'll just auto one more time and press E once the shield ends.
TurquoiseYoshi4 votesSomething kinda mentioned, but Twitch is also super useless without his ult. If he doesn't have ult, he doesn't do damage. His Q sounds great until you realize that unless he has ult, he's running into kill range as a squishy ADC with basically no damage.
BakedLotion2 votes[{quoted}](name=Dr Mercy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PjBeQRZj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-04T10:11:36.831+0000)
Are we really considering Twitch's tiny True damage DoT "True damage", as one of the reasons he might be too powerful? Really? Something that with 6 stacks fully, does 30 damage? Saying you reset the duration a couple times, you might amass 60 damage over the course of how long?
That said, I've said it once, I'll say it again, Twitch does not have the kill time of an assassin unless Fed. Unlike assassins, he has no innate mobility, his only escape being what he uses to start fights in which he needs to get a kill to spiral off with. You wanna fight him better? Don't stack directly behind each other, or close like you would Annie. Tanks should be using red Trinkets, and you should be pinking your jungle exits.
If they're going to engage on you, sacrifice the tank if need be, but get him CC'd. Fighters who can get on Twitch and stun the fucker can do the job, but only if they can get on top (which i know is a challenge). Forcing him to change his direction to deal with a new threat saves your team damage. If you can, just disengage, and now he's down an ult. Always be watching to see if you can see Twitch. If you can't, he's likely on his way already, as he's pretty much like Evelynn in that regard.
Twitch doesn't have the kill time of an assassin? A Bork/Runaan/IE Twitch will kill any squishy in less than 2 seconds depending on crit rng. That's pretty fucking close to assassins, faster than some considering the assassin rework made them all have delayed burst.
Poske33 votesIf Lb Had 55% winrate she would be hotfix disabled
But twitch one shoting entire enemy team from stealth because he is healthy
INB4 how can he 1 shot entire enemy team
Its exaggeration
Its more of he ll start spraying entire enemy team Kill 1 target put the other target to 10%, put 2 targets at 30% hp Before they manage to cc HIM at which point the fight is already over because he managed to rightclick twice/ trice and press E depending on how fed he is
Acheron166 votes[{quoted}](name=Sub HeroCro,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PjBeQRZj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-09-04T10:43:17.662+0000)
If Lb Had 55% winrate she would be hotfix disabled
But twitch one shoting entire enemy team from stealth because he is healthy
INB4 how can he 1 shot entire enemy team
Its exaggeration
Its more of he ll start spraying entire enemy team Kill 1 target put the other target to 10%, put 2 targets at 30% hp Before they manage to cc HIM at which point the fight is already over because he managed to rightclick twice/ trice and press E depending on how fed he is
That's cause LeBonk has HUGE mobility on top of her CC and damage.
Twitch has neither mobility nor CC, so you can't even compare them at all.
Stars Shaper12 votes{quoted} Twitch has neither damage
I think you meant mobility, but he trades it for the ability to flank and poppig up wherever he wants to get his advantage.
Shaponja28 votesCan you stop refering to as he is the whole ADC class?
Velzard of Koz4 votesMages are also defined by Syndra by most threads... Nearly every class got one...
Voluug132 votesFunny thing Syndra is only good at very high levels, her overall stats are kinda mediocre, just like Orianna, or the supposedly OP Taliyah.
byakugan1237 votesAll classes have their stereotypes-
Tanks: 
or 
Assassins: 
(ad) or 
(ap)
Mages: 
ADCs: and 
Enchanter Supports:
to name a few
Stemw34 votesTwitch is designed to quickly kill targets. If I remember correctly he had the classes Marksman/Assassin much like Vayne did before they removed the secondary classes. I wouldn't consider someone who has(had) a secondary class a stereotype. Someone like Jinx would be more fitting for a "Stereotype-ADC"...
My Heartshaker17 votesI really don't understand these type of posts.
Talks about ADC, refers to only twitch.
Somebody Love Me5 votesTo be fair, I've assassinated many people as Tristana
IPERFECTO13 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjuuWKuCjpg Twitch killing faster than assasin? Okay then
HeresyHorus2 votesthe only way he could have done that with 1 spell + auto is if he had scored a crit, and i think that was his crit auto animation were he dunked his scythe on the ground.
on top of all AD builds can net crazy numbers on autos, and thats not 
problem it is Crit problem.
RavenMagus4 votesActually you can do it in the early/midgame if you are building lethality and have especially if they are a few levels behind. No crit needed.
By lategame though they'll buy GA and kayn becomes useless.
Kayn's honestly a really good assassin, unlike most of the reworked assassins.
2Charmnot2Charm3 votesIf there was a twitch in that vid he would have easily 1-2 shot your xerath and brand before dealing with you and the poppy with his 800 range auto attacks, you know like 10x the range every other assassin in the game has.
IPERFECTO4 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Carries U,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PjBeQRZj,comment-id=00040002,timestamp=2017-09-04T16:10:16.561+0000)
If there was a twitch in that vid he would have easily 1-2 shot your xerath and brand before dealing with you and the poppy with his 800 range auto attacks, you know like 10x the range every other assassin in the game has.
Twitch killing enitire enemy team with 2,5-3 items on 1-2 autos? Especially some who can buy 
?HIghly doubt that
Stars Shaper11 votesI'm not taking a side in the debate mostly because I think that, even if sharing classes, different characters are different and that's a good thing.
Yet, I want to give my insight on the matter. Assassins and ADCs are somehow defined by their interaction with Tanks and Mages during fights with the firsts being able to avoid the Tanks and killing the squishies via their mobility while the ADCs can kite Tanks and have the range to deal with Mages.
Now, Mages are (or should) be designed around being weak in melee range (see Xerath, Aurelion Sol and other squishy Mages) and being skillshot based with the exception of other tankier ones that trade range or zone control for it.
This is where ADCs and Assassins get their main design difference: ADCs have to stay at range which "exposes" them to the full potential of the Mages kits while Assassins instill more panic into Mages because they can rather easily get in their "no no zone". Keeping this in mind, ADCs then should be able to deal a good amount of damage in order not to succumb to Mages, too bad that this is also coupled to such high self sustain that brings ADCs at the top of the food chain considering that most of them also have means to keep themselves away from melee threats.
Once again I think the main culprit is the amount of Life Steal and general self healing/sustain that there is around. With the exception of some LCS matches you don't see ppl fighting at anything lower than 80% HP and having a chance to get away, this because burst damage that doesn't instakill you (90%+ of the squishies HP) is easily healed back to near full while the burst window is nowehere near to be available again and thus you have to fill the match with CCs in order to have kill potential.
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesI like your example, but I'd like to point out that Asol isn't meant to stay at long range...or at close range...he's an oddball, and has to find the right balance between long and short range.
Magical Zoe7 votesTwitch would be fine if we could actually counter stealth.
Gecko6041 votesOne word: Wards.
Magical Zoe4 votesControl wards don't counter stealth, they only reveal camouflage, but even then you still can't target them if they're moving around the ward.
Saianna6 voteslong stealth duration
If you played pre season 1 you'd be butthurt to infinity and beyond. It's nowhere near "long".
Wyrmblade6 votesinb4 they attempt to fix this by buffing assassins again instead of nerfing ADCs.
EROTIC RAID BOSS4 votesadcs in general aren't the problem twitch is just a little op currently.
GayFluffyUnicorn7 votes"just a little op". Adcs are not a problem? How come every AS/Crit adc is currently in the top of winrates? A class supposed to be a LATEGAME CARRY when people complain about games ending too fast? Logic is not strong with the boards it seems.
hoganftw5 votesAssassins = Big burst Twitch = Bursts per second
See the difference?
Arthastheiceking4 votesRengar: You get the warning that he's ulting and he's going to jump on you,camouflage range=leap range, gets nerfed to the ground because of no counterplay (and also because of the too strong bruiser build caused by new unhealthy w and free damage).
Twitch: No warnings, reveal range is half of the r+auto range, still no nerfs. He doesn't even have to jump to you, he just sits like 1000 range away from his target (i dont know the exact number) right clicking.
Raoul2 votesBecause RIOT loves ADCs, and Assassins are a counter to ADCs, so RIOT hates them.
Baka Red1 votesI guess that love for the ADCs is the reason for the "ADC 2K17" meme that we have seen thrown around, right? ;)
Seriously though; Twitch might be a little too strong. Even I succeed with him sometimes.
Raoul3 votesYou do realise that the "ADC 2K17" literally came when Assassins were able to assassinate ADCs and Tanks could actually take some hits? In other words when ADCs had counterplay like every other role in the game has
