Too many free stats and gives a lot of damage to people who are building tank. Gives ADCs crazy damage too. EDIT:a lot of people are saying that keystones are making this game incredibly hard to balance. I agree.
Treune8147 votesEver since the Lucian nerf we have so much diversity! You never know if it is Ashe vs Jhin or Jhin vs Ashe!
BigBellBrute20 votesEver since the Lucian nerf we have so much diversity! You never know if it is Ashe vs Jhin or Jhin vs Ashe!
The diverse days of Lucien vs Siver and Siver vs Lucian were so much more diverse.
Fondling Gems9 votes
"I will always be relevant! You want poke? I am here! You want a safe adc? I am here! You want global presence? I am here! You realized you don't want Ez ADC? Lets go Mid!"
I love Ezreal. His is my bae. I want to fondle his gems.
Ormylar1 votesAlso Ezreal does well against Ashe in lane phase in my opinion.
Kingdom Corn2 votesYou know who also does well against ashe in laning phase? draven and rengar. Rengar support or adc which ever one suits you
Treune8119 votesVery true.Season 6 is completely adc meta.
Treune8124 votesLOOOL more like tank meta buddy
When is tank meta? Where are tanks? I can not see.
Rivuo6 votesWhen is tank meta? Where are tanks? I can not see.
you also cant speak english.
Treune8110 votesyou also cant speak english.
I also know meta.Season 5 mage and tank domination, season 6 adc domination, season 7...
Rivuo6 votesI also know meta.
You cant use the word also in that sentence....
Also implies another but you cant say ''I dont speak english but i also know meta''
That makes no fucking sense
Treune8113 votesYou cant use the word also in that sentence....
Also implies another but you cant say ''I dont speak english but i also know meta''
That makes no fucking sense
I'm talking in your language.
Meanwhile I can say that sentence because I know game.I also know meta.What is problem?
SirSmokeysAlot22 votesThe dude is being a prick. Most people who speak English do not understand that we have a very strange language. Only thing you are missing is the word "the" in some of your sentences. It would be "What is the problem?" and "When was the tank meta? Where are the tanks?". I'm just happy you can write English. That's a lot harder than speaking it. I know I don't have it in me to learn another language.
Onion the Fried11 votesyou also cant speak english.
tfw you realize north america =/= usa
Rivuo3 votes[{quoted}](name=Onion the Fried,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zEvTbPhG,comment-id=00020000000000000001,timestamp=2016-08-14T03:23:52.559+0000)
tfw you realize north america =/= usa
Tfw you realize north america =/= english
Fondling Gems9 votesTfw you realize that english =/= a universal language
Rivuo2 votes[{quoted}](name=Fondling Gems,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zEvTbPhG,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-08-14T05:32:42.592+0000)
Tfw you realize that english =/= a universal language
You literally repeated what i said in different words...
Fondling Gems8 votesPretty sure that north america =/= a universal language. Which is what you are saying.
You line implied that not everyone in NA speaks english. My line implied that english is not a language that everyone speaks. Those two lines might seem similar but they are fundamentally different arguments.
Those are two very different arguments as you are saying that because A, B
I am saying that because B, C
Where:
A) Is the server being NA
B) Is the speaking of English
C) Is English not being spoken by everyone
In other words you are saying that being in the NA server doesn't mean everyone speaks english
I am saying that just because Apex speaks English, does not mean everyone speaks English.
As similar as they sound they are two different arguments. I was not arguing with your point, I was adding to it from a different view point.
Ralanr2 votesEnglish is so fucking fun when you want to be a writer but ignored grammar lessons in elementary school.
Fuuuun.
YoungFarmer2 votesWhen is tank meta? Where are tanks? I can not see.
Imma say its juggernaut/Adc meta
WIOP64572 votesThe tanks are busy re-spawning in fountain after being gibbed in 2 seconds.[slayer-jinx-wink]
Suleiman775 votes0_0 its as if he wasn't here for 
meta that's still a problem sometimes..
Treune815 votes0_0 its as if he wasn't here for
I think Triforce is bigger problem.Also tank assassins.
Suleiman773 votesLiterally what IBG Sunfire was.. ANY champion built those two items and they could solo kill and usually 1v2 anybody on the map.
Marshbouy4 votesWhat happened multiple patches ago =/= right now
Suleiman771 votesGo play a game and try it out..
Marshbouy3 votesI have. It's not that effective. It's strong, sure, but it's not 1v2 any champion.
Knoyle2 votesThe sad part is it's not even that much of a problem on champs like 
but more so on champions who shouldn't have any business even looking at them like 
What's happening to this game?
LegacyDAP2 votestfw every season is adc meta.
Revali14 voteswhen you think at first glance 1-14 stacking up to 8 times it isn't a lot, but then you realise what your really seeing is 8-112 free damage on your autos
Marshbouy5 votesexactly
falldown0102 votesstill regardless , the mage keystone on brand is broken af his passive + lissandra's + the keystone is way more broken
bigambrus12 votes
liandry's not lissandra's
kasfas2 votesMaybe (just maybe) we should have this damage scale down with attack speed? So that a kog with 4.5 attack speed isn't going to do 504 damage a second for free lategame?
Count Zubat12 votesThis post should be named "Keystone masteries have made game incredibly hard to balance". Fervor of Battle isn't the only offender: Grasp of the Undying is responsible for all those tank assasins builds, Thunderlord led to infamous "League of Thunderlords" and overall the damage increasing keystones are the main reason of the huge damage creep we experience this season. IMO, keystone masteries are the biggest mistake of this season, even bigger than goddamn Graves.
Keevalroy5 votesAnd almost as big as Dynamic Queue.
Matezoide8 votesKeystone Masteries were a mistake.
You know how DFG got deleted because Riot said they had to balance every mage around this item? Same thing here, but with every single champion in the game.
ZT Xperimentor2 votesSame thing happened with; Will of the Ancients, Atma's Impaler, Eleisa's Miracle, & Runic Bulwark. Riot needs to fix their design philosophies before forcing them on us.
Keevalroy7 votesKeystones have made the game incredibly hard to balance.
FTFY
MonkeyMadness6 voteslol OP this is not an opinion, it is cold hard fact. Fervor and grasp of the undying have made the game complete shit, in that champs can build virtually full tank and still deal craploads of damage. The other damage masteries (deathfire and thunderlords) also cause issues with dealing too much damage, but at least you have to build daamge to take advantage of them fully. not the case with fervor and grasp.
Take my upvote in the hopes that someone at riot still gives a shit about us players that just want to enjoy the game we've come to love over the years without being repeatedly raped by the same 3 or 4 fervor/grasp abusing champs (ie ekko and yasuo).
God King Aatrox2 votesif you're having that many issues with it, you can always just buy a ruby or dorans shield. Early game health helps in so many ways its astonishing i dont see more people do it.
Eedat13 votesimplying fervor is a level 1 problem
God King Aatrox2 votesimplying there aren't items specifically made to cut down AD dps.
Marshbouy9 votesImplying that bruiser yasuo was never OP because armor exists.
God King Aatrox2 votes
Marshbouy7 votesrip. his ult armor pen exists
CeexSett2 votesSo, because he has 50% bonus armor pen, you don't buy any armor?
What do you do then?
Marshbouy6 votesYou know what i do then?
I build 
.
This isn't about being a tank vs a yasuo though. just because armor exists doesn't mean tank yasuo was not busted.
just because CC exists doesn't mean bruiser yi was busted.
just because MR exists does not mean malzahar was op.
You are a person who has sunk down to the bottom of my chart of idiocy. I would put you at the bottom, but sadly i have seen worse.
CeexSett2 votesI would rather swing the idiocy around. The guy up, Veng, mentioned 2 good ways to hinder Yasuo, to which you responded "rip his ult armor pen exists". That is completely idiotic, because not only is his ult not the entire champion, it's still only 50%.
That complain is like the players who say there is no counterbuilding to Vayne because she has %max hp true damage. Completely retarded.
Check your idiocy charts dude. Be sure you are not crowding spaces yourself.
Veltox2 votesWhat exactly is the 'counter build' for vayne?
and barely make her care.