his kit is ridiculously toxic, he jumps the adc then slaps them to death. No skill required and free crits and heals. WHY DID YOU BUFF HIM??? Just played a game with one and had him go 13/3 and 2 shot everyone on our team. FUCK YOU BALANCE TEAM
Yoergen51 votesI have to agree. I think the shrooms they are taking over at Riot is not doing them very well. Idiots.
Marshbouy16 votesonly counter to him is a blind or good peel
Lady Hammerlock10 votesonly counter to him is a blind or good peel
The only counter to him is a champion thats barely viable...
Knoyle10 votesI knew this day would come. It's time to revive the all powerful Lord Satan and put him and his kin (all them annoying af Yordle champs) at the top even taking a dump on Lee Win.
Kadeem Kong1 votesI have to agree. I think the shrooms they are taking over at Riot is not doing them very well. Idiots.
OR what ever the fuck else they are smoking
SirWoofy20 votesXin isn't the issue. The issue is rageblade. A lot of people can duel him. Trynd yi jax udyr etc. Before the buffs xin couldn't duel anyone unless he was ahead. Now he can. That doesn't mean he is op. He goes squish, has no escape, and his gap closer is on a 12 second cooldown. If you let him get to your backline then they will die. If you let trynd get to your backline they will die. If you let any bruiser or dueler get to your backline they will die. Get over it. At least xin can't escape after like trynd yi fizz zed lb etc.
Magus Polaris41 votesNo. Xin Zhao has always been an issue. Ever since release, he has caused problems.
Riot said in the patch notes that he has been stuck in an under-performing place for a while. They seem to have somehow forgot that they themselves deliberately put him there.
Melledoneus1 votesI'm starting to feel that Riot is like Comgress: there's a new cabinet coming in every so often to makr the same mistakes over and over.
LankPants4 votesIt's more that they're too proud to ever admit that they were wrong, so they fail to even see their mistakes as mistakes and insist that they were somehow right all along.
Melledoneus2 votes"Y-yeah, ruining Cassiopeia and Mordekaiser was all 'part of the plan.' Xin needs to be stronger because this meta doesn't feel worth balancing. Boop."
-Romney Games
Diananmen Square9 votesHe isn't really squishy though, as he only needs devourer and rageblade as offensive items.
NotClarkolas2 votesEven a fed yi cannot 1v1 xin right now. That is a problem with the champion, not rageblade
ThatWood5Guy2 votesEven a fed yi cannot 1v1 xin right now. That is a problem with the champion, not rageblade
So if someone can 1v1 yi, its a problem? Lmfao
CorgiParade7 votesYi having been one of the champions in the game with the highest damage output, it definitely is a problem if a fed Yi can be 1v1ed by a presumably unfed Xin Zhao.
Snake Town18 votes50% was too low of a winrate, had to buff him up to 57%
Borigrad4 votesLMAO he had a 43% win rate in Diamond and a .8% pick rate. learn to fucking play. Even now he sits at a 47.5% win rate in diamond with a 12% pick rate. Maybe you silver players are just bad? He's literally still losing more games than he's winning in every ELO that matters.
48983507DEL16 votesHe's still ridiculously toxic to play against. Yes, at higher elos where you have teammates who know that peeling is a thing he will perform worse, but holy shit, a jump from 43% to 47% in 2 days is still an incredible shift in power. This is especially true when considering 12% of the people are picking him, meaning is should have a winrate below 50% since a lot of them are probably first-timers playing a FoTM Champ.
Another thing to consider is that he's probably being banned a lot, meaning if he's ever available to pick, some non-Xin player will probably take him despite not knowing a thing about him, resulting in a pretty poor performance.
SrKillaIot2 votesso because you don't understand how to play the game and counter a champion means riot should nerf it cause in your trash level of playing you refuse to understand how to play the game. Makes so much sense i hope riot hires you to balance the game more often instead of actually using skill or team members to lock down a zero escape full engage type champion who has barely any defense stats.
Unlike champions like fiora who have more insane and massive heals that effect their entire team unlike just the 1 member and do true damage and can dodge any skill in the game. Makes so much sense please continue.
Pyrobolser3 votesWhy so agressive ? He didn't insult you or anything, and his point was fair in my opinion. Plus you were silver and he was gold on S5, so maybe think a little bit before starting with "trash level of playing".
48983507DEL11 votesApparently you didn't read my post whatsoever. I mentioned that he still had a giant 4% jump in higher elos, which is pretty massive. It would probably be higher if 12% of the players in that elo weren't picking him, as only people who main him would provide him with better stats. Don't believe me? Look at Lee Sin, probably one of the highest regarded junglers in the game.
BeMyFriendPlease1 votes[{quoted}](name=Zethera Densetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=18l2aFhQ,comment-id=000800000001,timestamp=2016-02-13T07:39:52.857+0000)
He's still ridiculously toxic to play against. Yes, at higher elos where you have teammates who know that peeling is a thing he will perform worse, but holy shit, a jump from 43% to 47% in 2 days is still an incredible shift in power. This is especially true when considering 12% of the people are picking him, meaning is should have a winrate below 50% since a lot of them are probably first-timers playing a FoTM Champ.
Another thing to consider is that he's probably being banned a lot, meaning if he's ever available to pick, some non-Xin player will probably take him despite not knowing a thing about him, resulting in a pretty poor performance.
Wizzleboom14 votesNobody should be able to solo Baron this easily (A team objective!). I never went below 75% health when I did it and that hp was topped to full within seconds.
rescued2 votesYup, today the enemy Xin soloed baron at 25 mins, was fun.
SrKillaIot1 votesyep your lying good try. If he did its cause you fed him hardcore and he had 4+ items at 25mins so you lost anyway.
CorgiParade5 votesyou're so butthurt and so quick to defend the braindead freelo
Von Revanchist10 votesXin never took skill now he is just faceroll
Sedonis7 votesI played against a xin yesterday, he built 
He healed about 250 damage every auto with above 2 attack speed. He healed for about 400+ on the third auto. He didn't take any damage because he was tanky. He could literally 1v4 or even 1v5. He won every single time.
bobsenbob1 voteshow da faq is he healing 250 every auto, gunblade only heals for 15% damage dealt, down to 5% on aoe
Sedonis1 votesSpirit visage, he had the mastery to increase damage every auto. (More damage, more healing) and the mastery in the defense tree that increases healing. If that doesn't answer it. Ask riot not me.
At the end of a 35 minute game. He had done about 30k healing. Ummm...?
bobsenbob1 votesspirit visage increases healing by 20% even if you're doing 1k damage(and this is a blatant exaggeration) you would still only be healing for 180 each auto, and that assuming that the enemy has no armor or mr
Sedonis1 votesAlso notice, I did say "about"
bobsenbob1 votesyeh but the thing is, xin isn't doing anywhere near 1k damage per auto, with that build, he's doing somewhere from 300-400 damage an auto(Im too lazy to actually add it all up, but that's still being generous) damage BEFORE resistances apply, assuming he does 400 damage an auto thats 60 healing, with spirit visage it's 72, 72 is nowhere near 220, xin zhao is unbalanced but your scenario is a blatant lie
Sedonis1 votesIts not? lol. It was AT LEAST 150 healing per auto. Also take into account ability procs for spell vamp and the mastery that increases damage if they have movement impaired also the mastery that increases healing by 8%. If you care so much about this yourself then please continue to argue, I'm done talking to you. Please try this build for yourself in a coop vs ai or something. Then get back to me. Good day sir.
C9 Scott Free 7 votesPeople are talking about peel like his ult is not an AOE knock everyone away move or some shit*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*
XIII Vanitas6 votes"A champion with 13/3 score, designed to kill squishies, just killed me. That's so broken!"
Anyways, you're right (even tho your personal experience is a really bad example when you want to show that a certain champ is unbalanced): Xin has been buffed too much. He probably doesn't need the bonus crit damage and he'll be nerfed, eventually.
Z Statistic4 votesI just played a game where I destroyed Xin because he would jump on the ADC and I'd slap him to death.
Marshbouy2 votesHmm. Well that doesn't happen often for me, requires too much teamwork or a champ with a peel type ability
Z Statistic3 votesHalf of the roster has a peeling ability. What are you talking about?
Marshbouy3 votesHalf the roster? DO NOT agree with that. Doesn't matter he can still get a mercurial scimitar
Z Statistic3 votes
All these champions have an immobilizing effect of some kind; they can keep a person in one place while an ally runs or displace them from that ally. That is not to say that they are all equally able to peel for their allies. Leona is brain dead easy. Brand has a lot of limitations on his. The point is that he can do it just like Illaoi has no immobilizing cc in her kit whatsoever and therefore_can't_ do it no matter how good you are with her. I count 93 champion. That's more than half the roster.
Marshbouy4 votesFIZZ IS GONNA FUCKIN PEEL THE ADC OK
Szunray1 votesI know he did say that not everyone on this list peels easily but honestly, I've never snared anyone as soraka on purpose. Adding champs like that just to say "look, so many champs have cc, xin is balanced" seems disingenuous.
Z Statistic2 votesI never said Xin was balanced. I'm just saying there are a lot of champions who can contribute to peel even if they aren't good at it. And soraka's is actually very easy. Just lay the E around the carry. If the bruiser or assassin tries to jump them, they can't cast, can't flash, and are usually rooted.
SrKillaIot1 votesso if you saying xin isn't balance then the entire adc rooster needs to be gut nerfed cause they are crazy broken this patch. Why doesn't riot start there first before they revert a change to a out dated champion who is extremely lacking atm. I'd rather see something on that line then xin get nerf if they do that then go a head and nerf xin down.
Z Statistic3 votesI'm not saying that either. I have no opinion on Xin. I'm not talking about Xin. My OP was poking fun at the thread because I did the exact same thing to Xin in a ranked game. Then the OP went off onto peel, and I was listing out all the champions that have some form of peel. Please don't put words in my mouth.
Knalxz4 votesFuck you, play Teemo -Riot games 2016
Mhihnj4 voteslol just for fun but:
WHY DID YOU RELEASE RENGAR His kit is ridiculously toxic, he jumps the adc and then stabs them to death. No skill required and insane damage and heals. WHY DID YOU RELEASE HIM??? Just played a game with one and had him go 13/3 and 1 shot everyone on our team. F**K YOU BALANCE TEAM
WHY DID YOU RELEASE KATARINA Her kit is ridiculously toxic, she jumps the adc and then cuts them to death. No skill required and insane damage and escapes. WHY DID YOU RELEASE HER??? Just played a game with one and had her go 13/3 and 1 shot everyone on our team. F**K YOU BALANCE TEAM
WHY DID YOU RELEASE YASUO His kit is ridiculously toxic, he jumps the adc and then stabs them to death. No skill required and insane crits and shield. WHY DID YOU RELEASE HIM??? Just played a game with one and had him go 13/3 and 1 shot everyone on our team. F**K YOU BALANCE TEAM
WHY DID YOU RELEASE ZED His kit is ridiculously toxic, he jumps the adc and then marks them for death. No skill required and insane damage and escapes. WHY DID YOU RELEASE HIM??? Just played a game with one and had him go 13/3 and 1 shot everyone on our team. F**K YOU BALANCE TEAM
WHY DID YOU RELEASE Twitch His kit is ridiculously toxic, he jumps the adc and then shoots them to death. No skill required and insane damage and crits WHY DID YOU RELEASE HIM??? Just played a game with one and had him go 13/3 and 1 shot everyone on our team. F**K YOU BALANCE TEAM
WHY DID YOU RELEASE VEIGAR His kit is ridiculously toxic, he stuns the adc and then ults them to death. No skill required and insane damage and scaling. WHY DID YOU RELEASE HIM??? Just played a game with one and had him go 13/3 and 1 shot everyone on our team. F**K YOU BALANCE TEAM
Stand Alone Wolf4 votes{quoted} he jumps the adc then slaps them to death.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-24-2015/F3MyH2.gif
I couldn't help it...
Borigrad3 votesSomething can compete with the ADC. NOT ALLOWED
LMAO he had a 43% win rate in Diamond and a .8% pick rate. learn to fucking play. Even now he sits at a 47.5% win rate in diamond with a 12% pick rate. Maybe you silver players are just bad? He's literally still losing more games than he's winning in every ELO that matters.
Destentor2 votesSomeboy took all the salt from the ocean...
