No matter what I do or how i play this champ, shes garbage, enemy jungler, just walks in and takes everything because of eves weak dueling, try to snowball...nope e burst sucks ass since its % and not flat....but yet somehow in plat and above eve has a 53% win rate....how?
Beatrice falls3 votesShe's not garbage, she just isn't a 
or 
that just press buttons and make "flashy playz", she's more of a macro play champion (
is one too, for instance)
Xavanic1 votes[{quoted}](name=Beatrice falls,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z93XnNEa,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-07T10:43:21.522+0000)
She's not garbage, she just isn't a
Nunu i can play well tho, eve just feels bad, her dmg is no where near other assassins and her ganks are meh at best until 6
Nenthos3 votesBecause she got reworked into an extremely clunky champ that everyone applauds because "muh sucubus" design. Pisses me off, old Eve was fun as hell.
Linna Excel3 votesYeah, I really preferred the old Evelynn, especially when I could go AD with her.
Nenthos3 votesForeal man! You could build ad lethality burst with trinity duskblade, on hit, liandray botrk for tanks, liandray gunblade rylai's for sustain and ect. That with the combination of the old rune system was so good. Now how you can build her? Only boring ap and her gameplay is so clunky.
TitanAnteus2 votesYou need real jungle strategy to play eve effectively. Early game, the enemy jungler knows they can kill you. They'll probably wait at your raptors or something. Just denormalize your jungle route, ward them and take their camp while they're waiting to kill you early.
The hardest part about playing evelynn is pre 6 and post 11. Pre6, is ALL jungle strategy where you path properly, and gank properly. Just don't be too greedy with your ganks. If a lane is being ganked and you're too far to countergank, then go inside his jungle and ward the shit out of it and take camps. If you know where he is, you can stay away from him early. At level 6, you should have enough burst to start fucking up the laners. Warwick and Xin and Shivv and basically every other jungler will still just straight up kill you though. If you want to kill the enemy jungler, then you have to use your stealth intelligently. Attack them while they're clearing camps.
Post 11... ahh.. Hmmm... Good luck. Try and pick off squishies, maybe buy a stopwatch because you'll get focused. W into stopwatch into Q works well in team situations. Outside of that yeah. Everyone can kill you now.
Kai Guy2 votesEve Imo is one of the better mid game carys and one of my favorite assassin jungles. Most her power is related to kit mechanics and proper positioning.
The mechanics you need to get down are Q kiteing camps to reduce the damage you take early game. knowing how to use W and R with versatility, and hitting all targets with the enhanced E on your clears.
Common mistakes I see.
Often times People only go for W charm. Plenty of times the slow is enough to get into range for ER. You can cast Q first at near max range, then get the W off on your target as the Q projectile is still traveling. this nets you the slow most the time, its also how you can successfully gank under pressure when you have not had time to position behind folks/cant get behind folks. Pretty much any time you want a kill but don't have the ability to get a full W charge this is the combo you should use. That said, if your not under pressure and have gotten good positioning you ABSOLUTLY want to charge W for the hard CC and MR shred.
Folks don't use R for aggressive mobility. Examples here On rework release everybody was bitching about how eve had 0 mobility and I never understood that. her R is a Blink, Its good for kills, its good for excapes, and hey its also good for gap closing. In many situation they are really low hp, Its better to use R for a gap close then Flash. Its a lower CD and longer range mobility. Personally id rather have RQE on cd then Flash R on cd.
Early game clears, when at risk of an invade, Take a bit more time on kite able camps like red and blue to evade damage with Q and W, keeping yourself healthy increases your ability to not die. When dealing with a risk of invade, don't throw W out the second a camp is in range, you should get vision out, save the W. Once you have vision then you can go for your camp (largest risks oftein being first clear 2nd buffs) If you have W up you have a better time smiteing your camp and then you can thank the enemy for the leash. If they sit in bush not starting a camp, you can wait for teammates, When this happens just wait. its a 0 gain situation but the enemy jungles taking a much higher risk. If they cant catch you starting the camp its in your favor for the first invade. you have hard CC, you can contest camp with smite and W, Your teammates can snag easy kill off a low level invader. Mid game your clearing fast enough and have perma stealth that invades become a pretty minor issue long as you keep vision up.
People max E. The hell? don't. it only needs 1 point. Q is more damage per level up, and more importiant to your clear times, and thou you might not get all 3 mini casts off long as your hitting the first Q the debuff damage is easy to pop. W is good, hell some games your going to want to put extra points into it early for higher CC, Again use it for a slow as well as a charm, the duration on slow matters, 2 seconds of 65% is a good window to just walk up to some one and use the Empowered E.
Advantages of eve.
%damage burst. that E hits all champion classes hard mid game. Once its ramped up off your AP its nasty. High single target hard CC. W can ruin peoples day. Pretty much ward immune level 6 onwards. You know if they got a red or not when your near it, all other wards are a non issue, unique stealth enables constant flanking in team fights, and aggressive scouting. Passive puts Warmogs to shame. Fast clears with some items. Snowballs, power spikes pretty early on and keeps momentum for a good portion of the game. Mid game carry, if you do well early your gonna have a lot of impact before any late game champions come on line, this gives a solo player the power to decide matches for their team.
Problems with eve, Cant impact snowballed lanes early as well, need teammates to be smart and play from behind if they fked up in lane. 2+ lost lanes is a nightmare, you need to hit your spike, trying to save 2 lanes gone south is hard, if your not getting a kill your slapping a bandaid on a bleeding artery of a lane. They might be less screwed with you camping both lanes but your losing EXP and Gold so by the time your kit starts spiking your very behind in power, if ya don't have a good power base your unable to present a threat in teamfights to enemy carry's, your teams team fights crippled, and 3-4 players depending on lanes lost are low value. Is a carry style champion and NEEDS some items to function well, its lower # of items compaired to others but getting deprived them hurts your viability.
Edit. If you like OP, I will record some ranked footage that might be useful for ya and can upload and post it here for ya. Note that my personal play style is to go HAM on the feast or famine.
Gabresol1 votesI think one of her strongest points is that she can sneak onto a lane and finish off overstaying enemies and that she can create 2v1s or 3v2s out of nowhere from the enemy POV. She is very similar to Shaco in playstyle and scaling, though having your escape on your execute makes her easier and safer playstyle wise.
Not to mention that invading in higher elo is moe diffecult, because laners actually react to this sort of thing, at least I see it hapening in DV+ Streams. Never gotten help down here in gold... Sometimes not even when ganking...
But yeah. With wards and adaptive pathing you can avoid the enemy jungler, like mentioned by TitanAnteus. In the end she is a gank heavy jungler
Xavanic1 votesI think one of her strongest points is that she can sneak onto a lane and finish off overstaying enemies and that she can create 2v1s or 3v2s out of nowhere from the enemy POV. She is very similar to Shaco in playstyle and scaling, though having your escape on your execute makes her easier and safer playstyle wise.
Not to mention that invading in higher elo is moe diffecult, because laners actually react to this sort of thing, at least I see it hapening in DV+ Streams. Never gotten help down here in gold... Sometimes not even when ganking...
But yeah. With wards and adaptive pathing you can avoid the enemy jungler, like mentioned by TitanAnteus. In the end she is a gank heavy jungler
Lately no one overstays, ppl are going back if they even fall below 50%, its like the meta has become a be super safe meta in mid elo (high silver, gold, low plat)
Dr Dog1 votesi used to be like this but now shes one of my favorite champs and best pocket picks, the key to eve is she has INSANE clear speed in the jg, you need to gear your pathing away from the enemy jg and take your camps before they can, after level 6 your a hard focus ganker thats your job, you want to snowball like hell and keep in mind you dont have to get the w charm, the slow is still pretty solid but what sets her apart is late game she can assassinate anyone even tanks stacking mr because of your usual void staff and w mr shred, shes very snowball heavy and can demolish a teamfight if they clump or get easy picks if she doesnt, on top of all this she forces enemys to spend a lot on control wards helping set them back even farther if your snowballed already, trust me i used to think she was shit too till i played her a bit more you just have to get used to her kit
little side thing i still do prefer old eve
Xavanic1 votesi used to be like this but now shes one of my favorite champs and best pocket picks, the key to eve is she has INSANE clear speed in the jg, you need to gear your pathing away from the enemy jg and take your camps before they can, after level 6 your a hard focus ganker thats your job, you want to snowball like hell and keep in mind you dont have to get the w charm, the slow is still pretty solid but what sets her apart is late game she can assassinate anyone even tanks stacking mr because of your usual void staff and w mr shred, shes very snowball heavy and can demolish a teamfight if they clump or get easy picks if she doesnt, on top of all this she forces enemys to spend a lot on control wards helping set them back even farther if your snowballed already, trust me i used to think she was shit too till i played her a bit more you just have to get used to her kit
little side thing i still do prefer old eve
The w thing i knew, but if shes snowball heavy thats prob why i dont like her, playing someone reliant on snowballing is so risky....
Kai Guy1 votesRight? 50 second stealth with a 1.5 second stun and free heals off takedowns was awesome. Plus the AS MS steroid was burly AF.
Poop Jelly1 votesShe's strongest at mid game, or at least after 6. Her stealth + W is a very good advantage for ganking, as you can cast it from a far distance and slowly creep upon the enemy as the heart filled. Her damage is not bad and she can flank which is very good to snipe important targets.
You probably won't win a jungler x jungler duel cus her sustaining damage sucks in a 1v1 situation. However, she's still hands down my favorite jungler along side with Nidalee and Kindred.
Xavanic1 votes[{quoted}](name=Poop Jelly,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z93XnNEa,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-08-07T18:53:21.978+0000)
She's strongest at mid game, or at least after 6. Her stealth + W is a very good advantage for ganking, as you can cast it from a far distance and slowly creep upon the enemy as the heart filled. Her damage is not bad and she can flank which is very good to snipe important targets.
You probably won't win a jungler x jungler duel cus her sustaining damage sucks in a 1v1 situation. However, she's still hands down my favorite jungler along side with Nidalee and Kindred.
Yeah, she just really doesnt fit with my style, i loved old eve, but the new one is just too iffy, i personally prefer playing rengar/pyke/twitch jungle, but eve just honestly feels like she cant kill anyone
Noor Sakata1 votesWHAT? she is really strong lol , I mean I prefer old Eve but new one is really strong
Xavanic1 votes[{quoted}](name=Noor Sakata,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z93XnNEa,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-08-07T20:48:49.728+0000)
WHAT? she is really strong lol , I mean I prefer old Eve but new one is really strong
Yeah, i cant grasp the concept, every time ive tried her i couldnt kill anything with success
Noor Sakata1 votesYeah, i cant grasp the concept, every time ive tried her i couldnt kill anything with success it depends man , she is usually your way whenever you have an ad mid laner and no ap , so is hella good , she doesn't even need to charm to kill , her ult is too strong , she is a very good champion overall , watch streamers and how everyone suffers from her
KindredAndWolf1 votesRiot’s worst rework to date. They took everything fun about old Eve and tossed that shit out the window for a charm and a better ult. Wish we could have old Eve back with the new Eve’s ult. Would be a bad ass champ.