Impossible games are the worst

AquariusGine··86 votes·2,848 views

Why MUST we be matched unfairly just because we had a winning streak? Because our winning streak consisted of being matched against beginners so we had an advantage?

Change this stupid system. Winning a game against unranked is not a test of skill, and losing to diamonds and plats in a team of only silvers is also not a test of skill.

37 Comments

Broken Bandle40 votes

Enjoy your downvotes. Not from me, but from others. I posted a similar thread asking how to fix the issue, but nobody had any ideas other than to shut up and take the 50. :^)

Penteano8 votes

The boards is like Reddit, there are a lot of people that agree with you in any topic you make if you are lucky and these people find your post first you'll get upvoted and go to front page. If others that dont care find you first they downvote for no reason.

Pierce The Veal2 votes

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The boards is like Reddit, there are a lot of people that agree with you in any topic you make if you are lucky and these people find your post first you'll get upvoted and go to front page. If others that dont care find you first they downvote for no reason.

Yeah this seems to be the case.

Project omen26 votes

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Why MUST we be matched unfairly just because we had a winning streak? Because our winning streak consisted of being matched against beginners so we had an advantage?

It's funny if you think about it. Due to poor matchmaking (getting matched against beginners instead of players with similar MMR), Riot compensates with poor matchmaking (getting matched against more experienced players with higher MMR or with teammates with lower MMR) in order to balance your winrate. I've always found it ridiculous but hey, who am I to judge?

AquariusGine13 votes

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It's funny if you think about it. Due to poor matchmaking (getting matched against beginners instead of players with similar MMR), Riot compensates with poor matchmaking (getting matched against more experienced players with higher MMR or with teammates with lower MMR) in order to balance your winrate. I've always found it ridiculous but hey, who am I to judge?

I found it stupid as well. Because if team A gets a good player as ADC, and team B gets a good player as top lane bruiser, team A will win the game.

That's just how the game is right now. I don't know why I try so hard, making these threads every few days if Riot still wants to embrace this terrible and unbalanced meta and matchmaking.

Maybe I don't want to see my favorite game turn to shit.. I don't know anymore.. I'm really exhausted

Project omen6 votes

This has been an issue for a long time and I don't think it's on Riot's top priorities at the moment, sadly. I quit playing ranked months ago and this was one of the main reasons, I don't think I'll ever get back on that horse.

Heriba2 votes

man if only the adc is good in team A and gets zero peel they still lose to the feed bruiser demolishing top lane , wth are you talkin about

Faceroll Tactics1 votes

Peel in 2017 Tristana Vayne item 3026 item 3046 item 2419 item 3153 summoner 4 summoner 7

Who needs people peeling when you've got your own

Heriba1 votes

if the adc builds that is not a good adc anymore 0 dmg to the enemy just to survive one fart from the fed bruiser/normal mid laner

NubianFarmer18 votes

cant escape the forced 50

VeganScout3 votes

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cant escape the forced 50

Whats the 50 ?

Kitten of Evil9 votes

Riot's matchmaking tries to force you to have a 50% winrate over time once you reach your 'expected' MMR. So if you win 4 or 5 games in a row, you will be placed with worse teammates. If you lose repeatedly, you'll get better teammates.

Faceroll Tactics2 votes

Elo boosters Faker's smurfs Apdo' smurfs

Nea1044 votes

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cant escape the forced 50

And they are still denying that :D

Heriba1 votes

thats why i stoped playing world of tanks, the forced 50% was so obvius and bs, like 9/10 games being the lowest tier tank with enemy team having like 1-2 more tier advantage was so tilting, and thats without counting your potato teamates vs their unicorns

Kitten of Evil9 votes

I just got placed against a Diamond, a Plat, and 2 Golds in my team of 2 unrankeds, a bronze and a plat. Guess who won!

Sure, it was normals, but even normals should have SOME matchmaking quality.

Bob the Toastr1 votes

Normals are the worst in matchmaking

CithriaC4 votes

Normals has its own separate mmr.

NuggeTech8 votes

I doubt Riot cares. They want to enforce the 50% win rate so hard, so to the newcomer, the game looks balanced, when they are unaware what Riot does to make it 50% on purpose.

Spoofghoul8 votes

it is without a doubt the dumbest thing ever

Rito employee 1: Hey we got this fucking problem, people are getting matched up vs beginners and win too often

Rito employee 2: ive got a solution let's match those silver scrubs against challengers to even out their winrates

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Onandaga5 votes

Funny how this was posted right after I had a 6 game win streak followed immediately by a 6 game lose streak. Totally agree, this is BS.

MetalGearTeemo4 votes

maybe if you just assumed everyone was bronze and don't mentally guardbreak yourself looking up stats during loading you'd be amazed how far your ego can take you.

Azeranth4 votes

I lost my promos into bronze 1 because my team was B4,B4,B3,S5, and me, B2 against S1,S1,S2, S5, and B2. All because I was on a huge 8 game win streak

OldDirtay4 votes

forced 50% winrate!?!?

and here i was thinking it was perfectly balanced games of the same skilled players that kept MILLIONS of people hovering around 50%

#probability

Penteano4 votes

Not a SR player so I cant speak for there. But in both Dominion (RIP) and ARAM after a winning streak the matches didn't/dont get harder because of people skills... the matchmaking just put you with the most trolls afk and sometimes even impossible champion comps. For a fun mode it can get pretty boring after 5+ wins in a row

ªTeemo3 votes

Because they try to push you to 50% wr. But the real question is why would they push you to 50% winrate? If you are good you will climb and if you are bad your winrate would be negative anyway. It's just a really scummy way of trying to keep the players playing.

korg0233 votes

Not just impossible games when it comes to matchmaking but when your team goes 0-40 and they refuse to FF at 15 cause "its not over yet" so you are tempted to leave game but at the same time dont want to get leaver buster so you are just "forced" to play unwinable game and feel like crap for the next 10-15 mins of irrelevant stalling and wasting time. Only time i feel better is when i have some sort of mission to "deal dmg to enemy team" or "earn xxx amount of gold" so i feel like im completing some goal even if im not winning.

Trias0002 votes

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Why MUST we be matched unfairly just because we had a winning streak

Can anyone give a source/proof?

kevin heals you2 votes

funny thing is if you look up boosters or some pros playing they will have 40+ winstreaks. rendering your post completely invalid and making you look like a raging fool.

Mos Deadly983 votes

Boosters can generally get 100% winrates from bronze to gold meaning the lp lurch will be massive for the person they are boosting. They then sell the account for money.

Nea1042 votes

"Working as intended", "anyway we always try to improve". Why they can't just admit what everyone (not totally oblivious) knows? :P

Pinkaj1 votes

Yeah, games are supposed to be fun, and especially with my friends where we just laugh when we win, and accept the loss together. But now, in every game, I've heard someone complain about the unfairness of this game. Riot, please, this is beyond your pay to win thing. Literally ever since the BE and runes update, I feel like everything's been changed, for better or for worse. Yes, I like the new runes, much more unique than the old ones, but MF and Leona got some unknown buff and power in the meta like how many times have you tested this and are you fixing this??? Press the attack rune on MF can shred any champ in seconds (and god lethality on her q and ult is ridiculous), which can break through Janna/Lulu shield with Aery and any shield-improving item.

Morticianjohn1 votes

This is a problem during preseason when players who have played nothing but ranked all season long start playing normals. They have a low normal mmr because even though they are diamond they don't play enough normals to raise their mmr that high. So diamond players end up matched with silver and gold players.

When the ranked season starts it's pretty chaotic as well as everyone needs to find their right ELO. Expect things to be better from March-October.

Vad Nova1 votes

Stupid thread if you think about it.

75%(minimum) of games are stomps one way or another

The longer you win, the more likley a loss is coming up.

You had a good win streak. News flash, win streaks are OUTSIDE the statistical norm. Loses are liklely to follow. You win a bunch, then start losing a normal amount again and "OMG RIOT DOIN DIS ON PURPUS!!*

No. Welcome to real life, where you arent actually good enough to keep on winning over and over forever.

Faceroll Tactics1 votes

And this is why we need to be able to see our MMR. So people like OP aren't misinformed about how matchmaking works.

GripaAviara1 votes

I like it how before, same system, but because the game was unbalanced: neah git good

Now people finally start to see the real problem of ranked: matchmaking. since carrying the game 1v5 is no longer feasible

Ahri Baka1 votes

I honestly enjoy having a win streak then playing against plats and diamonds , sometimes I end up playing against masters too , once I played against a challenger , while I'm barely Gold 5 , I won my lane against them but the problem is having bronzes and silvers in my team , especially bot lane , no matter how good I do , I can't stop a fed bot lane , the thing is , only knowing the enemy has a diamond player makes the silver and bronze players tilted and afraid of even farming or invading , I like this system for me only , not for the bunch of bronze players in my team against people from diamond :/ it's just not fair

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